Terrible take.

They let Hyman walk, can’t keep losing players for nothing.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

It's the way of the Leafs.

Own rental and all

You talking about Reilly or how “offensive” the anti Nylander posts are

- jribout

Lol everything regarding Nylander is offensive and when it comes to Rielly I’m roughly about as defensive

That’s what you consider mismanagement

Not all of us.

He’ll be nothing more than an overpaid 28 year old offensive d man who’s skating is about to slow down (like 99% of D)

Signing him big is the mistake. Let him walk.
- Dozzer

If he's so poopty, trade him now for assets.

Just sayin'!

That’s what you consider mismanagement

Not all of us.

He’ll be nothing more than an overpaid 28 year old offensive d man who’s skating is about to slow down (like 99% of D)

Signing him big is the mistake. Let him walk.
- Dozzer

trading him at the tdl would be a better idea imo. unless he accepts a 5-6M per contract.

let me reassure you, you are no fool
- fidopro

The only reason I believe leaf fans consider him so valuable is because he’s the one who gets the most of their attention by being the best d man on the leafs.

Just because he’s the best on the leafs doesn’t mean he’s worth more than he’s worth league wide. Let another team overpay for him.

trading him at the tdl would be a better idea imo
- fidopro

Are there examples of playoff teams trading their #1 Dman at the deadline? “Hey guys good luck with playoffs and poop”

If he's so poopty, trade him now for assets.

Just sayin'!
- fifty__missions

If they could replace him I’d say go for it, but the leafs only have 7 guys capable of the NHL level. So it’s a nope.

Are there examples of playoff teams trading their #1 Dman at the deadline? “Hey guys good luck with playoffs and poop”
- Canada Cup

true, only STL does that on occasion

If they could replace him I’d say go for it, but the leafs only have 7 guys capable of the NHL level. So it’s a nope.
- Dozzer

Mismanagement. Could have been done in the summer.

Also, you've shat all over Rielly in this thread. Just wait til you see what this D looks like without him.

trading him at the tdl would be a better idea imo. unless he accepts a 5-6M per contract.
- fidopro

His agent won’t, not after the signings this past summer.

When it comes to moving him they can’t unless they get a decent d man back. They simply don’t have the depth capable of the NHL level.

Are there examples of playoff teams trading their #1 Dman at the deadline? “Hey guys good luck with playoffs and poop”
- Canada Cup

Leaf fans haven't had a contender to cheer for since the turn of the century, so they can be forgiven for being deeply confused about how trade deadlines work for good teams.

Mismanagement. Could have been done in the summer.
- fifty__missions

Because just like Hyman they’ll use him this year and then let him walk

His agent won’t, not after the signings this past summer.

When it comes to moving him they can’t unless they get a decent d man back. They simply don’t have the depth capable of the NHL level.
- Dozzer

well, if they think they have chance they'll run with it and hope for the best, then let him walk.
perso I'd trade him, sorry I don't see Leafs as contenders. far from it.

Because just like Hyman they’ll use him this year and then let him walk
- Dozzer

They won't be "cup contenders" long with this approach, Dozzer.

Are some presentation at the start of Friday's game?
why 6pm start and the SJS play the night before in Ottawa.
You'd think the game would start later like 7:30 or 8pm

go figure

well, if they think they have chance they'll run with it and hope for the best, then let him walk.
perso I'd trade him, sorry I don't see Leafs as contenders. far from it.
- fidopro

Four games into the season. If there’s a shot, you take cause you don’t know how many you have with Matthews. If you’re talking assets, you can’t mismanage the time left on his contract.

Are there examples of playoff teams trading their #1 Dman at the deadline? “Hey guys good luck with playoffs and poop”
- Canada Cup

It's pretty sad that Morgan Rielly is our stud #1 d-man.

well, if they think they have chance they'll run with it and hope for the best, then let him walk.
perso I'd trade him, sorry I don't see Leafs as contenders. far from it.
- fidopro

But they see themselves as contenders

So I can grasp that since they only have 7 guys who can truly play good NHL D that none of them get moved unless another good D man comes back.

Unless they start sucking and see by the deadline the playoffs aren’t going to happen that is, which I also doubt.

They won't be "cup contenders" long with this approach, Dozzer.
- fifty__missions

Then call Dubas and tell him that.

Otherwise use that to try to understand why they do what they do.

Four games into the season. If there’s a shot, you take cause you don’t know how many you have with Matthews. If you’re talking assets, you can’t mismanage the time left on his contract.
- Canada Cup

that's my point, there's no shot. too many ??? in net and at the blue.
might as well get something for Rielly. imho

You need to be a tad more patient, Dubas has only been the leafs GM since 2018 and this is Keefe’s first full year as their coach.

Also the two of those guys working together have an AHL championship working the same roles together. Not to mention back in the OHL Keefe was awarded CHL’s coach of the year

Take a deep breath and be a bit more patient. This is the first year that Nylander, Matthews, and Marner will all actually be in their mid 20s as well
- Dozzer

well nice to meet you shanny

why did you get rid of hunter?

when did you become so invested in analytics?

Because just like Hyman they’ll use him this year and then let him walk
- Dozzer

That’s awful asset management.

They’ll let everything play out this year. And if they don’t win a round, this core is taking a hit. That’s included Dubas and Shanny being sacked. Nylander will be gone, Brodie and Muzzin will be gone, Mikheyev and all other experiments/reclamation projects will be gone.

Rielly and Campbell’s return will be based on how they play this season. If Rielly puts himself in the Norris conversation then he’ll get 9M and he’ll be staying a Leaf.

? Matthews Marner
Bunting Tavares ?
? Kämpf Kase
? ? ?

Rielly ?
Sandin ?
? ?

Campbell
?

That’s the team if they don’t win a round, and Rielly and Campbell play well.

In a cap world no one walks for nothing, you get cap space in return, which is an asset.
- Zezel

Well if Rielly walks because he gets $8M as a UFA, we get $5M in relief but can't replace him with anything as good or better without needing an extra $3M soooo.......we actually lose the Cap Relief game y'all are pretending is an asset. It's a liability in fact.

Do the same with Hyman.

Do the same with Andersen.

Letting players walk for nothing because you HOPE this is your year for the big win is the most asinine approach to managing assets.

Trade Rielly at the TDL if the Vegas odds a stacked in the Leafs favor then just pretend like he got injured and walked at the end of the season if it makes you feel better. At least you get some type of asset.

If the hockey gods want a Leafs Cup, then we should be able to get it without Rielly. I mean look how far the Habs went with the hockey gods on their side.

But they see themselves as contenders

So I can grasp that since they only have 7 guys who can truly play good NHL D that none of them get moved unless another good D man comes back.

Unless they start sucking and see by the deadline the playoffs aren’t going to happen that is, which I also doubt.
- Dozzer

agreed, they should make the playoffs, that is not the problem. Leafs are build for the regular season, 3x3... but proof has been made they are not a playoffs team, certainly not a deep run playoffs team.
just the opposite of Mtl actually.

Hey Dozzer, if you get a sec, drop by the Raptors home opener tonight. Great crowd noise!