At this point, given the stated direction of the team, and the record that Hakstol has built at UND, I'm very encouraged by the hire.

The guy has a great track record of developing and wining at the same time. Granted it's at a lower level, but his work has been outstanding in it's consistency and success rate.

It's a bold, outside the box move for sure, but Hakstol seems to be a smart and highly motivated guy, who has some great ideas.

Yes but the point missed is, we're going back to back with two Coaches with very little NHL Coaching experience, which I'm not sure is the best idea. I'm not bashing the higher, I just think I would have preferred a guy who could sort out any current holes we might have.
- SuperSchennBros

He look smarter than Berube

Why are the fans owed that information?
- Scoob

I actually like that the organization appears to be getting a handle on the loose lips. I don't want a decision of this nature to be media driven or fan driven. I don't want rumors out there to be evaluated for advance notice of the response of anyone. I want them to make a business/hockey decision based on the best information available. And, with all due respect, that isn't coming from Joe Vegas or Tim Panaccio.

Constant poo pooers on here hate everything the Flyers do. Flyers go out and do something they never do. Poo pooers contine to poo poo. Well, one thing hasn't changed, at least.

Fair enough. Being totally honest no one, including Hextall knows how this guy is going to transition to the NHL game. He's an absolute unknown quantity.

And you know what, the fact he made 7, count them 7 trips to the Frozen 4, and never won once I find pretty alarming.
- PLindbergh31

that fits in perfectly with flyers history, really, so we have that going for us...which is nice.

At this point, given the stated direction of the team, and the record that Hakstol has built at UND, I'm very encouraged by the hire.

The guy has a great track record of developing and wining at the same time. Granted it's at a lower level, but his work has been outstanding in it's consistency and success rate.

It's a bold, outside the box move for sure, but Hakstol seems to be a smart and highly motivated guy, who has some great ideas.
- Jsaquella

And I will acknowledge that is really what I hoped for and had no expectation of getting. So all kidding aside, I'm not unhappy.

At this point, given the stated direction of the team, and the record that Hakstol has built at UND, I'm very encouraged by the hire.

The guy has a great track record of developing and wining at the same time. Granted it's at a lower level, but his work has been outstanding in it's consistency and success rate.

It's a bold, outside the box move for sure, but Hakstol seems to be a smart and highly motivated guy, who has some great ideas.
- Jsaquella

I don't know anything about the guy, but this is the kind of guy they needed to hire

Bottom line: They're going to try to break in AT LEAST three young defensemen over the next three years. They can't win a (frank)ing thing if two of those three, at a minimum, don't become high-end NHL players

You can't have a coach who isn't a teacher. Not right now, you can't. If the coach you have doesn't like young players, or doesn't want to play young players through the ups and downs, or even worse, scratches young players...the Flyers CANNOT, ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY CANNOT, have a guy who doesn't understand how to develop young players

I have no clue if Hakstol is gonna work. But they had to hire a guy whose resume looks eerily similar to that

At the end of the day, real changes to the club wont happen until the poop show is organized.

That starts not next season but the year after when Grossmann and LSchenn are UFA's. Decisions regarding Couturier and bSchenn will have to be made.

The following year is when Umberger finally gets off the books. LeCavalier is unfortunately on the table the longest, until the 18/19 season where he hits UFA status.

An exorcism of trash will be possible, but it will take time. Do think next year will be much of the same however. Weather the storm.

I hope the hire would not be a result of NEPOTISM he coached Hex son
- Landsbergfan

Nepotism would be in play if he WERE Hexy's son.

At this point, given the stated direction of the team, and the record that Hakstol has built at UND, I'm very encouraged by the hire.

The guy has a great track record of developing and wining at the same time. Granted it's at a lower level, but his work has been outstanding in it's consistency and success rate.

It's a bold, outside the box move for sure, but Hakstol seems to be a smart and highly motivated guy, who has some great ideas.
- Jsaquella

Now it's going to be really interesting how hexstol situates the roster. I think vinny gets bought out

Well he must pull a rabbit out of a hat to get rid of the flyers bad baggage in AMac and the beer league guy UmBURGER

I don't know anything about the guy, but this is the kind of guy they needed to hire

Bottom line: They're going to try to break in AT LEAST three young defensemen over the next three years. They can't win a (frank)ing thing if two of those three, at a minimum, don't become high-end NHL players

You can't have a coach who isn't a teacher. Not right now, you can't. If the coach you have doesn't like young players, or doesn't want to play young players through the ups and downs, or even worse, scratches young players...the Flyers CANNOT, ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY CANNOT, have a guy who doesn't understand how to develop young players

I have no clue if Hakstol is gonna work. But they had to hire a guy whose resume looks eerily similar to that
- AllInForFlyers

Well this to me sounds like an AHL Coach. Am I out of line by saying or believing this? Morin more than likely will be in the AHL, right? This transition will likely come from whomever is Coaching him down there, right?

Now it's going to be really interesting how hexstol situates the roster. I think vinny gets bought out
- Just5

I think they just have to be rid of him. Say what you will about Berube but in his first year he gave Vinny the ice time. LeCavalier has had his chances. I'd take all the penalties just to get him off the team.

Umberger at the very least wont kill you defensively.

I mean this hasn't been done since the early to mid 80's. You don't see coaches go from NCAA hockey directly to an NHL head coaching job.
I'm not saying it can't work, but to me this wreaks of Hextall trying to be the smartest guy in the room.
- PLindbergh31

i don't know that. maybe of all the experienced, qualified current/former nhl coaches out there, none of them are a fit her for certain reasons including that they don't want to be here. i mean, mabye dave tippet hates the flyers after his stint as a player in the early 90s?

do you really want boucher or nolan or some other guy? just because he's a known quantity so to speak?

babcock only one 1 cup - and that's including his time with the ducks. fonzi won a (frank)ing cup. you want that guy?

i'm intrigued by this move. again, it's not as if they're poised to make a run next year anyway.

Well this to me sounds like an AHL Coach. Am I out of line by saying or believing this? Morin more than likely will be in the AHL, right? This transition will likely come from whomever is Coaching him down there, right?
- SuperSchennBros

No, because it's at the NHL level that these guys ultimately will make or break the Flyers

You can't have a situation where a guy like MDZ gets scratched for 10 games, or Luke Schenn AND Andrew MacDonald AND Brayden Schenn AND Sean Couturier look completely lost at various periods of time -- you have to find a way to get through to the guys who are clearly more advanced than AHL play but still haven't figured out consistency at the NHL level

Tim has got a nice write up on interviews with Hextall and the new HC. Just words but nice to read over.

Playing style:
"I don’t know if I can sum it up in one word. I can tell you the way I approach my business on a daily basis is in a very direct manner. I think expectations are quite simple of myself, of my staff and our players. Maybe to sum up in one word, accountability to one another, to our organization. In terms of style of play, the game is so fast. When you see games today, it’s played at such a high speed. You’ve got to be as good a team without the puck, you’ve got to work and play fast without the puck and with good structure. It’s about transition. But you’ve got to have the puck, you’ve got to get the puck in order to be able to transition up ice. You’re going to see with me an expectation that our defensemen are involved in an awful lot of our play in terms of our play with the puck. I think it’s essential both getting up the ice as well as in the zone. "

Next question goes on to ask whether he thinks the current team is built to play that way or something.

Nepotism would be in play if he WERE Hexy's son.
- bodiva88

As a favor to hex son it will qualify look it up

At the end of the day, real changes to the club wont happen until the poop show is organized.

That starts not next season but the year after when Grossmann and LSchenn are UFA's. Decisions regarding Couturier and bSchenn will have to be made.

The following year is when Umberger finally gets off the books. LeCavalier is unfortunately on the table the longest, until the 18/19 season where he hits UFA status.

An exorcism of trash will be possible, but it will take time. Do think next year will be much of the same however. Weather the storm.
- flyer_nutter

I was hoping the " exorcism of trash" would start sooner.. But I think you are right.

Yes but the point missed is, we're going back to back with two Coaches with very little NHL Coaching experience, which I'm not sure is the best idea. I'm not bashing the hire, I just think I would have preferred a guy who could sort out any current holes we might have.
- SuperSchennBros

There is nothing wrong with having some concerns about the hire, that's normal and reasonable. It's not reasonable in my opinion to flat out reject the hire and label it a mistake right off the bat, as some have.

That Flyers team that Keenan took over was the youngest team in the NHL.

Also of note: Keenan coached the University of Toronto right before taking the Flyers job.

But I guess that's college hockey, and therefore, doesn't count.
- johndewar

i made this same point earlier...although i didn't note his UT history.

No, because it's at the NHL level that these guys ultimately will make or break the Flyers

You can't have a situation where a guy like MDZ gets scratched for 10 games, or Luke Schenn AND Andrew MacDonald AND Brayden Schenn AND Sean Couturier look completely lost at various periods of time -- you have to find a way to get through to the guys who are clearly more advanced than AHL play but still haven't figured out consistency at the NHL level
- AllInForFlyers

Not a bad point. I believe that guys like Luke Schenn or Michael Del Zotto were hurt at times by the scratches. Schenn for example is playing along side Nick Schultz one game, doesn't play well, so he's scratched for two and upon his return plays with Colaiacovo. You'd think having a steady partner most nights would help them to settle in.

Mood?

Won't back read because im sure the stupid is out in full force.

Can't say i know anything about the guy like almost everybody else but i won't female dog about it like many here (you know who) will.

Im actually happy they got this guy, only guys that i actually would've liked to have seen here were MonChichi and Babcock... I definitely didn't want Deboer or Dineen or a retread in Murray.

There is nothing wrong with having some concerns about the hire, that's normal and reasonable. It's not reasonable in my opinion to flat out reject the hire and label it a mistake right off the bat, as some have.
- MJL

Please..This is the Flyers Hockeybuzz forum.

Hexy could have hired Bowman and Babcock and the same people would be complaining.

Im interested in seeing how a new coach who has developed multiple NHL quality players takes a young and hopefully getting younger group into the next few years.

Mood?

Won't back read because im sure the stupid is out in full force.

Can't say i know anything about the guy like almost everybody else but i won't female dog about it like many here (you know who) will.

Im actually happy they got this guy, only guys that i actually would've liked to have seen here were MonChichi and Babcock... I definitely didn't want Deboer or Dineen or a retread in Murray.
- Yosimar89

Seems negative. I'm cautiously optimistic

There is nothing wrong with having some concerns about the hire, that's normal and reasonable. It's not reasonable in my opinion to flat out reject the hire and label it a mistake right off the bat, as some have.
- MJL

If that's what you took from anything I've said, that wasn't my intention. I would have prefered a more experienced NHL Coach. I'm not at all saying it was a bad higher. I don't even know the guy.