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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
For the record:

1. I have no effing clue who Dave Hakstol is
2. I have no effing clue what kind of system he runs
3. I don't recall watching one UND game over the last few years
4. I have no idea if this will work or not

Therefore: I have no real opinion. Just gotta wait and wee

- AllInForFlyers

Pretty much the most sensible post of the day



Don't make a habit out of it!
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

May 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Clearly this move is an abject failure. I'd like to see him fired before the draft. I mean, going out and getting the best players and or coaches money can buy has worked so well since just after May 1975. There should be no reason whatsoever to go outside the box for a change.


- hockeylover

This isn't just going outside the box. This is going off the god damn continent to make this decision. This is the type of decision that if it fails, it gets you fired.

I feel like this is comparable to the hiring of John Idzik by the Jets. Everyone in the know said that guy would be in over his head. They were right. Seems most teams don't think highly of going this route which is why it hasn't happened in 33 years.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Now that the News of the day has set in, what is the overall thought of the new bench boss? Admittingly, I don't know anything about him and I'm 100% no matter what I say, it's going to sound like I'm bashing the signing.

My main concern is ended up in the same place we were at yesterday 2 years from now because we experimenting with another Coach so soon after we just fired a guy with little Head Coaching experience. I didn't like Berube but he did work his way up through the ranks and when the first thing you hear of the new higher is "He Coached my son" Says Flyers GM Ron Hextall, it's hard not to be critical.

From what little information I gather before work, Dave Hakstol has a lot of regular season wins with the North Dakota. I'm not sure if he's won and championships of any kind, so if I'm off base in anyway, please tell me.

It's just interesting going in this direction (One nobody saw coming) but if he has somewhere near the same kind of successes as let's say Bob Boughner who led the Windsor Spitfires to 2 memorial cups in a row and than tried the NHL level with Columbus, I can understand Hakstol being on the radar.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
maybe he told them he wasn't interested in coming here

kind of a two-way street on these things

- Crimsoninja


it seems like hextall wasn't interested in babs. he's apparently twice been rebuffed by hakstol. that tells you he had his eye on him for awhile and there's a good chance he knew half way through the season he dump ba ba rooby.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
it seems like hextall wasn't interested in babs. he's apparently twice been rebuffed by hakstol. that tells you he had his eye on him for awhile and there's a good chance he knew half way through the season he dump ba ba rooby.
- hammarby31


Pretty much
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
Not buying that. When a person is a free agent and there are only a few openings, why would you eliminate one of the destinations before the process even started? People seem to think Babcock is looking for a big pay day.... Would it make sense for him to eliminate a team that could offer him big money? I don't believe that for a second.
- PLindbergh31

i guess

honestly ive always thought he was way over hyped. really hasn't done much without Lidstrom


couldnt care less about the Olympic stuff
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
No sense in arguing with people here. It's the Flyers did everything right and perfect. They don't make mistakes. This is a great decision even though people like Bobby Mack are confused. You are not allowed to question any decision ever. It's 1984 every year in here.
- Flyers1218




Dude, so people don't agree with you. So what?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
I think hakstol should strip the captaincies on the team and go into camp with a clean slate. Let the players show him whose going to push his message. Clean slate
- Just5


That's a few steps too far -- you've got a former Hart Trophy finalist who makes $8.5 million per year, the captain of the Czech World Championship team and a top 5 scorer who needs an extension, and the captain of the Swiss National team on your roster, all of whom are closing in on 8-10 years of NHL service

While you have...zero NHL experience. None

There are some fights you pick. Some fights you don't.

That's a fight you don't pick
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
For the record:

1. I have no effing clue who Dave Hakstol is
2. I have no effing clue what kind of system he runs
3. I don't recall watching one UND game over the last few years
4. I have no idea if this will work or not

Therefore: I have no real opinion. Just gotta wait and wee

- AllInForFlyers

I think this is the most sensible mindset to have but with this said, we'll see what happens. I think I was hoping for a more familiar NHL Coach with experience at both the NHL and/or AHL level. I've always known Hextall is all about developing young players, I just wasn't aware apart of his master plan was to develop Coaches as well, who comes highly recommended by his kid.

I joke of course.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 18 @ 4:28 PM ET
Pretty much the most sensible post of the day



Don't make a habit out of it!

- BiggE


HA! I haven't been around much lately, so my Rage Quotient is low right now
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

May 18 @ 4:28 PM ET
Ballsy move though,if this not pans out Hex is on the block
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

May 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/phi...sion_to_hire_Hakstol.html

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
. This is the type of decision that if it fails, it gets you fired.


- Flyers1218


Absolutely. But guess what? Hextall knows that. So, let's just sit back and see what happens.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
i guess

honestly ive always thought he was way over hyped. really hasn't done much without Lidstrom


couldnt care less about the Olympic stuff

- Crimsoninja


Fair enough. Being totally honest no one, including Hextall knows how this guy is going to transition to the NHL game. He's an absolute unknown quantity.

And you know what, the fact he made 7, count them 7 trips to the Frozen 4, and never won once I find pretty alarming.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
...link edited out because it broke the page...


- aightwebang17


Franking moronic article. That guy should be fired.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

May 18 @ 4:31 PM ET


Dude, so people don't agree with you. So what?

- Scoob

I can say the same thing to you. Since everytime I voice my displeasure of the move I get 10 comments saying I dont know what I'm talking about.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20150519_The_upshot_of_the_Flyers__decision_to_hire_Hakstol.html


- aightwebang17

reputable sports journalist Mike Sielski
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
I can say the same thing to you. Since everytime I voice my displeasure of the move I get 10 comments saying I dont know what I'm talking about.
- Flyers1218


Not from me. You may or may not know what you're talking about but we won't know that for a while.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
Not buying that. When a person is a free agent and there are only a few openings, why would you eliminate one of the destinations before the process even started? People seem to think Babcock is looking for a big pay day.... Would it make sense for him to eliminate a team that could offer him big money? I don't believe that for a second.
- PLindbergh31


Maybe Hexy didn't think Babcock was the right guy for this job
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

May 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
i guess

honestly ive always thought he was way over hyped. really hasn't done much without Lidstrom


couldnt care less about the Olympic stuff

- Crimsoninja



x2+1
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
Fair enough. Being totally honest no one, including Hextall knows how this guy is going to transition to the NHL game. He's an absolute unknown quantity.

And you know what, the fact he made 7, count them 7 trips to the Frozen 4, and never won once I find pretty alarming.

- PLindbergh31


I think fans have a reason to have concerns when you point this out. On one hand, he's Hextall's friend, on the other, has he had big success (I'm really asking)?
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

May 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20150519_The_upshot_of_the_Flyers__decision_to_hire_Hakstol.html


- aightwebang17


His best work yet.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

May 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
Franking moronic article. That guy should be fired.
- Scoob



absolutely, that guy got paid for that??
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 18 @ 4:34 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20150519_The_upshot_of_the_Flyers__decision_to_hire_Hakstol.html


- aightwebang17


He thought it was funny. He thinks he's a standup comic on Twitter sometimes too.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 4:34 PM ET
absolutely, that guy got paid for that??
- -davies-


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