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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 1:24 PM ET
I think an important question has not been asked.

How well can he bake a cake?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
Well its not Eakins.

That's a win for me.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
What a great big fat lie. Hextall must think fans are stupid!! This guy has a wealth of Head coaching experience. Ooh, ooh, then what does Babcock have? This is BS in the highest degree and what I see as a Ruben Amaro like move. Hextall who also must have a wealth of GM knowledge has screwed up this organization and has taken it back to the stone age. This a sure fire way to get fired and the organization will have to start over again, and again, and again. Until someone (Ed) hires the best people in hockey, period. This is a farce and to me a power move so the GM can be the big boss. Smart people hire smarter people around them to be successful not rookies. This will cost the Flyers five years to get out of this jam,
- Joe Vegas



You sound like you know a lot about this new coach. I would like you to impart some of this knowledge on the rest of us.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 18 @ 1:29 PM ET
FWIW I told my coworker, who used to be a hockey coach, the flyers hired hakstol and his eyes lit up. He said he's a really good coach and would be great for us.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 18 @ 1:29 PM ET
I think an important question has not been asked.

How well can he bake a cake?

- flyer_nutter

Been asked.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
Been asked.
- mayorofangrytown


Damn. I am sure there is going to be a bit of fun had with this hire. At the end of the day, would have been cool if they had someone with NHL experience but off the board isn't a terrible thing.

In a hockey market like Philadelphia, Hextall just put his own head out there with a hire like this imo. Hopefully the guy does well, but the crows will be circling very quickly if he doesn't.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
Does these mean since Babcock has a wealth of experience that no one else can? He never said that he had a wealth of NHL head coaching experience. You are assuming this guy isn't smart and can't be successful as a NHL coach, where are you getting this from? Do you have some info that Hextall doesn't like a crystal ball that allows you to see into the future? I'll take that five year bet, not because I think Hakstol will be a good coach, but really five years.
- LJF

your arguing with a guy named vegas lol
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
Well its not Eakins.

That's a win for me.

- hereticpride

(frank) you
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
didn't know much about him prior to this hire, but he's helped develop some great talent at UND (Toews, Parise, etc.)

i think my favorite part about this hire is that it's not a retread for retread's sake. it would have been real easy to bring a guy like Dineen, Carlyle, or another guy who has "experience." i'm more interested in someone who has new, creative ways to deploy talent in the NHL, than hiring someone who's merit lies in that they've successfully or unsuccessfully did at the NHL level in the past.

If the Flyers goal is to develop their young talent, this seems like a good gamble. I think if you pair Hakstol with Terry Murray as associate coach; you have a good tandem of developmental success (at the collegiate level) with an experienced NHL coach who knows some of these kids well from coaching them in the AHL.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
Big question yet to be answered. Is he a heavy defensive first guy or?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
didn't know much about him prior to this hire, but he's helped develop some great talent at UND (Toews, Parise, etc.)

i think my favorite part about this hire is that it's not a retread for retread's sake. it would have been real easy to bring a guy like Dineen, Carlyle, or another guy who has "experience." i'm more interested in someone who has new, creative ways to deploy talent in the NHL, than hiring someone who's merit lies in that they've successfully or unsuccessfully did at the NHL level in the past.

If the Flyers goal is to develop their young talent, this seems like a good gamble. I think if you pair Hakstol with Terry Murray as associate coach; you have a good tandem of developmental success (at the collegiate level) with an experienced NHL coach who knows some of these kids well from coaching them in the AHL.

- Crimsoninja


Terrifying.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 18 @ 1:37 PM ET
Terrifying.
- flyer_nutter

Accept it
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 18 @ 1:38 PM ET
Big question yet to be answered. Is he a heavy defensive first guy or?
- flyer_nutter


"Fast" was the word used by Hextall, so to answer your question, I have no idea.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 1:40 PM ET
"Fast" was the word used by Hextall, so to answer your question, I have no idea.
- jmatchett383


As opposed to slow?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 18 @ 1:42 PM ET
I think an important question has not been asked.

How well can he bake a cake?

- flyer_nutter


oh but it has been asked. so leight.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
So the fans get the North Korea secrecy bullpoop. Ridiculous.

- PLindbergh31


Why are the fans owed that information?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
There was a question where hexy replied that if he had the choice between a established pro assistant versus an established college head coach, he'd go w/ the head coach every time. He also emphasized that it was important that he and the new hire were on the same page philosophically with where the game was going.

Both seemed like roundabout shots at Chief.

- Tomahawk


Reads more like a shot at whoever hired Berube.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

May 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
your arguing with a guy named vegas lol
- PhillaBully


I should have said I'll take that bet since your last name is vegas
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
Whatever the hell this is worth.

"Hakstol has a reputation as a very intense, super-serious guy. It's very, very rare to ever see him crack a smile. His teams play a tough, very physical style of hockey. Offensively, he wants his guys to get the puck to the net from anywhere and then grind out rebounds, tips, etc. "
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

May 18 @ 1:51 PM ET
What a great big fat lie. Hextall must think fans are stupid!! This guy has a wealth of Head coaching experience. Ooh, ooh, then what does Babcock have? This is BS in the highest degree and what I see as a Ruben Amaro like move. Hextall who also must have a wealth of GM knowledge has screwed up this organization and has taken it back to the stone age. This a sure fire way to get fired and the organization will have to start over again, and again, and again. Until someone (Ed) hires the best people in hockey, period. This is a farce and to me a power move so the GM can be the big boss. Smart people hire smarter people around them to be successful not rookies. This will cost the Flyers five years to get out of this jam,
- Joe Vegas



The guy hasn't even been coach for 3 hours, hasn't held a practice, talked to any of the players, or had a game under his belt and you're proclaiming this move will send the Flyers back to the stone age?


Newsflash:

The status quo hasn't worked for the past 40 years. Let's see what the guy can do before we proclaim the next decade as being lost.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 18 @ 1:51 PM ET


WHO?

- flyer_nutter


Hakstol Jim Duggan tough guy! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 18 @ 1:52 PM ET
(frank) you
- Crimsoninja

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
didn't know much about him prior to this hire, but he's helped develop some great talent at UND (Toews, Parise, etc.)

i think my favorite part about this hire is that it's not a retread for retread's sake. it would have been real easy to bring a guy like Dineen, Carlyle, or another guy who has "experience." i'm more interested in someone who has new, creative ways to deploy talent in the NHL, than hiring someone who's merit lies in that they've successfully or unsuccessfully did at the NHL level in the past.

If the Flyers goal is to develop their young talent, this seems like a good gamble. I think if you pair Hakstol with Terry Murray as associate coach; you have a good tandem of developmental success (at the collegiate level) with an experienced NHL coach who knows some of these kids well from coaching them in the AHL.

- Crimsoninja


This is very unlike you. I applaud this new line of thinking. Keep it up
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 1:54 PM ET
Hakstol Jim Duggan tough guy! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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- PLindbergh31


For all of us that wish the Flyers gave their prospects more experience in the minor leagues, we may have just got our wish shoved up our ass.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 18 @ 1:54 PM ET
For all of us that wish the Flyers gave their prospects more experience in the minor leagues, we may have just got our wish shoved up our ass.
- flyer_nutter


Eddie is hoping he's the new Babcock!
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