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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 16 @ 5:08 PM ET
So Phil Kessel to the Panthers for Huberdeau, Howden a 2015 first and a sallary dump.
- Santo_44

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:09 PM ET
What kind of prospect we talking?
- mycokes


Ideally someone with value who turns into a bust
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Feb 16 @ 5:09 PM ET
There is a reason he is. I know us fans don't like to admit it but the scouts know much much more then us when it comes to prospects.
- Santo_44



I am a scout...

I understand your concern in terms of CHL points but sometimes guys just end up playing better in the pros and points start to show then when they play with like minded players who are always in the right positions!!

Just a thought. But for sure we need a #1C before a winger....
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

Feb 16 @ 5:10 PM ET
No I am comparing the proposals made by the prospective fanbases in these two different situations. Nucks fans were expecting way too much, and some Leaf fans are doing the same now.
- Leafs43


ahh..i think kessel fetches a first, top prospect, and young nhl ready player... Guy is a consistent top 10 scorer with a so/so supporting cast.
mycokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: @mykokes, ON
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 16 @ 5:10 PM ET
?
- Santo_44

You were serious?

Kessel commands a lot bigger package than that especially if they are dumping salary our way. Think Rick Nash deal
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 16 @ 5:11 PM ET
Not signed super long term and he produces bang for the buck when healthy. I think he's be a great fit in Montreal.say a second, prospect and PA Parenteau (for cap relief)
- DoubleDown

just cough up the 2nd and be on your way
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 16 @ 5:11 PM ET
I am a scout...

I understand your concern in terms of CHL points but sometimes guys just end up playing better in the pros and points start to show then when they play with like minded players who are always in the right positions!!

Just a thought. But for sure we need a #1C before a winger....

- thehockeygod


And a cubscout before that, so I'd wager.



Do you also sell cookies, or is that just the girl guides...?
mycokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: @mykokes, ON
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 16 @ 5:11 PM ET
Ideally someone with value who turns into a bust
- DoubleDown

So not Grabovski
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Feb 16 @ 5:12 PM ET
whats the 411 on marner other then being a dwarf??
- Leafer749



Marner is 5-9 to 5'10 plays a very feisty game and even though he lacks size he makes up for it in grit, will and determination. Plus he's also a London Knight and if Hunter drafted him for his OHL team you know the kid can play!!

Wouldn't be surprised if the Leafs got Marner as a result of Hunter!!
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 16 @ 5:12 PM ET
You were serious?

Kessel commands a lot bigger package than that especially if they are dumping salary our way. Think Rick Nash deal

- mycokes

Sallary dump as in a pending UFA who can be flipped for maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick. Maybe throw in another prospect or change Huberdeau into Bjugstad or Barkov but tpits pretty fair.
mycokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: @mykokes, ON
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 16 @ 5:14 PM ET
Sallary dump as in a pending UFA who can be flipped for maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick. Maybe throw in another prospect or change Huberdeau into Bjugstad or Barkov but tpits pretty fair.
- Santo_44

I'm thinking Huberdeau, Gudbranson and a first without the salary dump
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
Sallary dump as in a pending UFA who can be flipped for maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick. Maybe throw in another prospect or change Huberdeau into Bjugstad or Barkov but tpits pretty fair.
- Santo_44

there isn't anything tpits pretty fair about it
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
I'm thinking Huberdeau, Gudbranson and a first without the salary dump
- mycokes

Well we will see. I hope for that kind of return. I can see Phil in Florida. Aperently he was asked if he would like to play in Florida by a Panthers Reporter and his face lot up. Perfect place for Phil. He would succeed. The only thing missing is a number 1 center for him.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 16 @ 5:17 PM ET
there isn't anything tpits pretty fair about it
- the_eye

Ok
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 16 @ 5:17 PM ET
So Florida would like Kessel, but won't trade Ekblad or Barkov (don't blame them), or Huberdeau, Kulikov, or Gudbranson?

What are you gong to offer then? Why even express interest if that's the truth?
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Feb 16 @ 5:18 PM ET
i think he's younger than most prospects.. still only 17? could be wrong though.
- orienbrady22



You are correct.... which is why he is sooo good. I can understand why some (Lums et al) would be hesitant.... especially since we need a top end Centre. But let's say

a)McDavid
b)Eichel
c)Strome

get drafted in that order and we sit at 6th... Hanifin

d)Hanifin
e)Marner

Who do we draft then Zacha maybe... but Crouse is completely an option especially since we have a 2nd 1st round pick later on!!
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 16 @ 5:18 PM ET
Ok
- Santo_44

ok what?
tpits or pretty fair?
Leafer749
Joined: 05.24.2014

Feb 16 @ 5:18 PM ET
Marner is 5-9 to 5'10 plays a very feisty game and even though he lacks size he makes up for it in grit, will and determination. Plus he's also a London Knight and if Hunter drafted him for his OHL team you know the kid can play!!

Wouldn't be surprised if the Leafs got Marner as a result of Hunter!!

- thehockeygod



More feisty then kadri? Maybe a mike Richards clone?
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Feb 16 @ 5:19 PM ET
Bibeau looks like he could be awesome
- lumlums



This kid is siiiiiick

I'm really thinking he could be our future #1.

If any of you watched the Mem Cup tournament last year you know what I'm talking about!
mycokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: @mykokes, ON
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 16 @ 5:19 PM ET
More feisty then kadri? Maybe a mike Richards clone?
- Leafer749

Does he come with a coke addiction?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 16 @ 5:19 PM ET
ok what?
tpits or pretty fair?

- the_eye

Yes
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

Feb 16 @ 5:20 PM ET
So Florida would like Kessel, but won't trade Ekblad or Barkov (don't blame them), or Huberdeau, Kulikov, or Gudbranson?

What are you gong to offer then? Why even express interest if that's the truth?

- BetterCallSaul


3 firsts
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 16 @ 5:20 PM ET
Great comparison but I think with the depth we have in the D position (Granberg, Finn Percy) Leafs can pass on Hanifin and get a guy like Crouse.... plays like Rick Nash.. just not as skilled or as quick. I'd def take him for his size.. 6'4! NICE.

I like Zacha just don't see us drafting him cause he's a little further down the list. But yeah he's good. I was at the Juniors Tournament and he stoud out and played really well for the Cechs!

- thehockeygod

You would draft Crouse over Hanifin?
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
3 firsts
- orienbrady22

Have to pay extra because they're within the division.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 16 @ 5:23 PM ET
Ideally someone with value who turns into a bust
- DoubleDown

DLR?






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