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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Frank you Frankin Frankers, ON
Joined: 07.22.2010

Feb 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
Don't worry Badge I got this for you ...



- The Law

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
Either way, (frank) ROR and his 6.4 billion dollar contract demands. If I'm paying him that much I want more than 31 points and a -6 rating.
- walshyleafsfan


sigh..I thought you were smarter than that, looking at 1 season and mentioning plus minus
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Feb 17 @ 12:08 PM ET



I wonder if Kessel is going to be traded today
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:08 PM ET
No thanks, Jabroni, you guys take him.
- Jeropotato


Is this the WWF in the 90's? Jabroni?

Besides.. Edmonton is already overpaying 3 guys may as well round that out.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 17 @ 12:09 PM ET
I wonder if Kessel is going to be traded today
- woopstash


1st period intermission trade, Kessel and B-Jugs swap jerseys.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:10 PM ET

- DDM-Coga



They'll trade him to L.A. for Mike Richards.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 17 @ 12:11 PM ET
They'll trade him to L.A. for Mike Richards.
- BINGO!


didn't you laugh at Kadri/JVR for your 1st & Lindholm?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 17 @ 12:12 PM ET
Is this the WWF in the 90's? Jabroni?

Besides.. Edmonton is already overpaying 3 guys may as well round that out.

- Mr_Smokey

Yeah but we have a bunch of other guys we need to overpay in the next year or so, so we can't.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:13 PM ET
I think this gets a little overblown (emphasis on a "little" - not saying there's zero truth there). He held out. So did Kadri. so do lots of RFA's who have career years at the right time.

Calgary offered him that deal - what's he supposed to do not sign it and sign the Avs offer of HALF the money?

- Badge



I don't understand why people hold these things against players. Why hate a guy for trying to make as much cash as possible?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:13 PM ET
didn't you laugh at Kadri/JVR for your 1st & Lindholm?
- MCharisma91

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 12:14 PM ET
sigh..I thought you were smarter than that, looking at 1 season and mentioning plus minus
- DDM-Coga

OK 31 points

He's been a minus player every year of his career except the 18 games he played as a rookie. Not as big a defensive stalwart as I once heard.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 17 @ 12:14 PM ET
I think this gets a little overblown (emphasis on a "little" - not saying there's zero truth there). He held out. So did Kadri. so do lots of RFA's who have career years at the right time.

Calgary offered him that deal - what's he supposed to do not sign it and sign the Avs offer of HALF the money?

- Badge

pfft, sense.....
who needs it
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 17 @ 12:15 PM ET
I wonder if Kessel is going to be traded today
- woopstash

don't you cyber bully us with that talk
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:16 PM ET
I don't understand why people hold these things against players. Why hate a guy for trying to make as much cash as possible?
- BINGO!


Same agent group as Pietrangelo, Doughty, Subban, thats how they do business, they use the rules of arbitration, holding out and using their RFA status as leverage.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:16 PM ET
The problem with O'Reilly isn't that he held out, although it's a little insane what he demanded, it's that he will get at least that per in a extension, no thanks, he isn't worth near 6 million...
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 17 @ 12:17 PM ET

- BINGO!


yeah...keep laughing...

laugh at JVR, who would automatically become your best winger & top LW for the future...and Kadri who would automatically become your #2 C now & for the future
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 12:17 PM ET
The problem with O'Reilly isn't that he held out, although it's a little insane what he demanded, it's that he will get at least that per in a extension, no thanks, he isn't worth near 6 million...
- aminnes

This.

He aint gonna earn less in his next deal.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:17 PM ET
OK 31 points

He's been a minus player every year of his career except the 18 games he played as a rookie. Not as big a defensive stalwart as I once heard.

- walshyleafsfan


so leading the league in take aways the last 3 years isnt defensive? Hes only 23 years old, its not like he is some 28-30 year old pending UFA.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:18 PM ET
The problem with O'Reilly isn't that he held out, although it's a little insane what he demanded, it's that he will get at least that per in a extension, no thanks, he isn't worth near 6 million...
- aminnes


He's worth every penny at 6 million. There aren't to many players that play a complete, 200 foot game as good as him.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 12:19 PM ET
so leading the league in take aways the last 3 years isnt defensive?
- DDM-Coga

Not unless you consider Tyler Bozak the 6th best defensive forward in the game, then no.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:19 PM ET
He's worth every penny at 6 million. There aren't to many players that play a complete, 200 foot game as good as him.
- mochoson


Complete?.... Hmmm, he's maybe a 2/3 of the way there type...
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:20 PM ET
so leading the league in take aways the last 3 years isnt defensive? Hes only 23 years old, its not like he is some 28-30 year old pending UFA.
- DDM-Coga



He is having an off year. They all are for some reason.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 17 @ 12:20 PM ET
Not unless you consider Tyler Bozak the 6th best defensive forward in the game, then no.
- walshyleafsfan


I pray for you then
Badge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Frank you Frankin Frankers, ON
Joined: 07.22.2010

Feb 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
The problem with O'Reilly isn't that he held out, although it's a little insane what he demanded, it's that he will get at least that per in a extension, no thanks, he isn't worth near 6 million...
- aminnes

he is if it's for 6 or 7 years.

This is IF we move Kessel and Phaneuf, and Bozak.

RoR is a much better influence and example for a young group, and he's someone you can make Captain and not be embarrassed about it (no rush though - maybe give it to Robidas next year so you have a Captain, but aren't committed to anybody long term)

If this is a multi year rebuild, then Cap shouldn't be an issue anyway for 2-3 years, and O'Rielly is a good guy to take pressure off other C's.
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 12:21 PM ET
I don't understand why people hold these things against players. Why hate a guy for trying to make as much cash as possible?
- BINGO!


Time and place, it's free agency. RFA's are under team control. Slightly above average players that hold out like he did aren't worth building around.
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