Well, that didn't go the way you hoped. Do you feel better after beating me up on the internet?
- systemtool

No, because I like you tool.

No, because I like you tool.
- AdamFrench

You ever going to change your avatar? lol

Kind of like how Tampa is doing it now?
- mykokes

Tampa is way ahead in terms of talent these days than the Wings.

If they swapped coaches, Tampa would be scary good.

Tampa is way ahead in terms of talent these days than the Wings.

If they swapped coaches, Tampa would be scary good.
- systemtool

And most of the talent is coming from outside the 1st round.
I have no issues with Tampa's coach though. Coop is a winner.

No, because I like you tool.
- AdamFrench

I like you too honeybuns. We went all "wife" on each other and deserved the backhands we got.

And most of the talent is coming from outside the 1st round.
I have no issues with Tampa's coach though. Coop is a winner.
- mykokes

No issues either, just think Babschlong is the best in the biz.

You ever going to change your avatar? lol
- mykokes

Maybe, I do like the Don tongue in Kardi's ear.

Next avatar would be Rasmus Andersson

Maybe, I do like the Don tongue in Kardi's ear.

Next avatar would be Rasmus Andersson
- AdamFrench

who's ear will he have his tongue in ?

who's ear will he have his tongue in ?
- bixll

Rasmus Anderson of course!

Rasmus Anderson of course!
- mykokes

Tongue in his own ear.. Impressive. Ladies should love him.

Rasmus Anderson of course!
- mykokes

He is (frank)ing sick. I can't stand how poop on he is by the mainstream prospect community.

He's so unappreciated he isn't even listed as a rookie in the OHL...

And you forgot LUCK..
- bixll

people always point to luck with the Wings with the argument "if they knew these guys were so good they would have drafted them in the first round!" it doesn't work like that. if you go back to the Datsyuk and Zetterberg picks... did the Wings know for sure that they would be HOFers? of course not. but to suggest that the Wings did not think these guys had first or second round talent is incorrect IMO. i think that they knew these were two potentially special players but that they just weren't on anyone else's radar. at that time, no one scouted Europe like the Wings. so if you know Datsyuk is going to be sitting there in round 6, why take him in round 2 or 3?

people always point to luck with the Wings with the argument "if they knew these guys were so good they would have drafted them in the first round!" it doesn't work like that. if you go back to the Datsyuk and Zetterberg picks... did the Wings know for sure that they would be HOFers? of course not. but to suggest that the Wings did not think these guys had first or second round talent is incorrect IMO. i think that they knew these were two potentially special players but that they just weren't on anyone else's radar. at that time, no one scouted Europe like the Wings. so if you know Datsyuk is going to be sitting there in round 6, why take him in round 2 or 3?
- DoubleDown

So he doesn't get picked up by another team in an earlier round. You can't leave them on the board, because you don't think they are on another teams hit list. You can't take the chance.

people always point to luck with the Wings with the argument "if they knew these guys were so good they would have drafted them in the first round!" it doesn't work like that. if you go back to the Datsyuk and Zetterberg picks... did the Wings know for sure that they would be HOFers? of course not. but to suggest that the Wings did not think these guys had first or second round talent is incorrect IMO. i think that they knew these were two potentially special players but that they just weren't on anyone else's radar. at that time, no one scouted Europe like the Wings. so if you know Datsyuk is going to be sitting there in round 6, why take him in round 2 or 3?
- DoubleDown

because individual scouts dont run the draft.

So he doesn't get picked up by another team in an earlier round. You can't leave them on the board, because you don't think they are on another teams hit list. You can't take the chance.
- bixll

At the time they pick Datsyuk, NHL GMs were afraid the Russian were not opting for the KHL. So they could not take the risk of drafting in the early rounds.

So he doesn't get picked up by another team in an earlier round. You can't leave them on the board, because you don't think they are on another teams hit list. You can't take the chance.
- bixll

With Dats and Zed they could. To be perfectly honest Zetterberg was a miracle and drafted out of the Swedish 1 league, a league that has produced one NHLer...him. Dats was picked from an obscure Russian club during the Russian Super League days. Hell Yekaterinburg is a KHL city now and has produced basically zilch. Good timing and an eye for talent.

wait isnt there an active red wings blog for red wings talk? Just saying

wait isnt there an active red wings blog for red wings talk? Just saying
- Popcorn Kid

need more shanahan talk

With Dats and Zed they could. To be perfectly honest Zetterberg was a miracle and drafted out of the Swedish 1 league, a league that has produced one NHLer...him. Dats was picked from an obscure Russian club during the Russian Super League days. Hell Yekaterinburg is a KHL city now and has produced basically zilch. Good timing and an eye for talent.
- AdamFrench

lucky...take a look at the other gems they drafted those years

need more shanahan talk
- wingz4life

no we need more rage about the Reimer/Bernier debate here

wait isnt there an active red wings blog for red wings talk? Just saying
- Popcorn Kid

Let's talk about Kessel's work ethic or better yet Dion's leadership qualities.

lucky...take a look at the other gems they drafted those years
- drexel

All it takes is one drunk saying the guy is good sometimes.

He is (frank)ing sick. I can't stand how poop on he is by the mainstream prospect community.

He's so unappreciated he isn't even listed as a rookie in the OHL...
- AdamFrench

He's my hope for the Nashville pick.

So he doesn't get picked up by another team in an earlier round. You can't leave them on the board, because you don't think they are on another teams hit list. You can't take the chance.
- bixll

i agree that nowadays that's more the case. but 1998-1999... things were way different.

Dont want Kessel going to NYI. they don't have a 1st rd pick to give back....
- Popcorn Kid

We could use an extra first for next year. NYI have fantastic young prospects that I would like. kessel for prospects and next years first works for me