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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 17 @ 7:50 AM ET
I'm surprised NAS doesn't want him for more firepower up front and a bit of insurance on Forsberg. They have lots of cap space still.
- gravyface

They'll pick up Jagr and call it a day
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 7:53 AM ET

- wingz4life



He would get rid of the lazy players that they have here. Which is a big job.
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Feb 17 @ 7:55 AM ET
I'm surprised NAS doesn't want him for more firepower up front and a bit of insurance on Forsberg. They have lots of cap space still.
- gravyface


Nashville no longer has the pieces to get a deal done unless they include Jones or Forsberg. What about the 2015 first rounders we so desperately need?We have Nashville's already.

We should be looking at a team with at least their own or somebody else's first for 2015 with a nice bevvy of prospects to choose from. Deep draft, big opportunity to kick start the rebuild.

Anaheim and NYI look like the most ideal trade partners.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Feb 17 @ 7:57 AM ET
He would get rid of the lazy players that they have here. Which is a big job.
- bixll

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...wings-in-rebuild-1.208987
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:07 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/shanahan-should-emulate-wings-in-rebuild-1.208987
- wingz4life


I agree with letting the players develop for a long period in the minors, but getting guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg with picks that late? After being passed over that many times by every single club? Thats (frank)ing voodoo, wizardry and bullpoop
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:09 AM ET
I agree with letting the players develop for a long period in the minors, but getting guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg with picks that late? After being passed over that many times by every single club? Thats (frank)ing voodoo, wizardry and bullpoop
- lumlums

Nah, just pick Euro players that should be 2nd round picks in the 5th like the Wings do. Easily done.

Also sign Zahkar Arzamaestev
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:11 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/shanahan-should-emulate-wings-in-rebuild-1.208987
- wingz4life



Like I have been saying for 5 years now..
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:11 AM ET
I agree with letting the players develop for a long period in the minors, but getting guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg with picks that late? After being passed over that many times by every single club? Thats (frank)ing voodoo, wizardry and bullpoop
- lumlums



And you forgot LUCK..
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:13 AM ET
Nah, just pick Euro players that should be 2nd round picks in the 5th like the Wings do. Easily done.

Also sign Zahkar Arzamaestev

- AdamFrench



Time to increase funds to Thommie Bergman and the European operation. Don Cherry to be named director of European scouting
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:14 AM ET
And you forgot LUCK..
- bixll


Some luck on the picks, for sure. But letting them play for longer in the AHL serves to (a) make sure that they're ready to be pro hockey players at a high level, and (b) mitigate the cap hit, so that you're paying your 23 year old guys around $1m, and not 6x $6m
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:14 AM ET


Time to increase funds to Thommie Bergman and the European operation. Don Cherry to be named director of European scouting

- lumlums

Love how they only seem to give him the ability to pick in the 7th round and he hits every (frank)ing time...
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:14 AM ET
And you forgot LUCK..
- bixll



It was luck more than anything else. If the wings truly saw that potential in them, they would've drafted them sooner
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:16 AM ET
Some luck on the picks, for sure. But letting them play for longer in the AHL serves to (a) make sure that they're ready to be pro hockey players at a high level, and (b) mitigate the cap hit, so that you're paying your 23 year old guys around $1m, and not 6x $6m
- lumlums



I totally agree, and have been a fan of the Wings system for years..
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:16 AM ET
It was luck more than anything else. If the wings truly saw that potential in them, they would've drafted them sooner
- ILoveLamp



Very true. They did not just leave them there, waiting for the later rounds to pick them up.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 17 @ 8:18 AM ET
Some luck on the picks, for sure. But letting them play for longer in the AHL serves to (a) make sure that they're ready to be pro hockey players at a high level, and (b) mitigate the cap hit, so that you're paying your 23 year old guys around $1m, and not 6x $6m
- lumlums


Or just accept that you have the best coach in hockey and the plan above works well with him behind the bench.

There are tons of other teams finding success without using that model, and while Detroit is still a good team, that's where it ends.these days. They are no longer cup contenders Imo, and reality is slowly but surely creeping in.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:22 AM ET
Or just accept that you have the best coach in hockey and the plan above works well with him behind the bench.

There are tons of other teams finding success without using that model, and while Detroit is still a good team, that's where it ends.these days. They are no longer cup contenders Imo, and reality is slowly but surely creeping in.

- systemtool

Or 4 of their best defense prospects are too young to find their way on the team and will sadly replace guys in 2 years keeping them afloat and competitive.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:25 AM ET
Or 4 of their best defense prospects are too young to find their way on the team and will sadly replace guys in 2 years keeping them afloat and competitive.
- AdamFrench



And,,,, back in the playoffs again, and again..
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:25 AM ET
Dont want Kessel going to NYI. they don't have a 1st rd pick to give back....
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 17 @ 8:25 AM ET
Or 4 of their best defense prospects are too young to find their way on the team and will sadly replace guys in 2 years keeping them afloat and competitive.
- AdamFrench


Did you type this in Russian and use google to translate it?

I'm not sure what your point is or what you're trying to say, but yes teams have prospects not in the NHL and Detroit is one of 30 teams that do.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 17 @ 8:26 AM ET
All that work to miss putting my picks in for the playoff round

Curse you HB, yesterday was famy day not hockey pool day
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:28 AM ET
Did you type this in Russian and use google to translate it?

I'm not sure what your point is or what you're trying to say, but yes teams have prospects not in the NHL and Detroit is one of 30 teams that do.

- systemtool

I used English and knowledge, something alien to you I know, but highly effective.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:28 AM ET
All that work to miss putting my picks in for the playoff round

Curse you HB, yesterday was famy day not hockey pool day

- Garnie



Snow clean up day..
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Feb 17 @ 8:30 AM ET
Nah, just pick Euro players that should be 2nd round picks in the 5th like the Wings do. Easily done.

Also sign Zahkar Arzamaestev

- AdamFrench


Kind of like how Tampa is doing it now?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 17 @ 8:31 AM ET
I used English and knowledge, something alien to you I know, but highly effective.
- AdamFrench


Well, that didn't go the way you hoped. Do you feel better after beating me up on the internet?

mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Feb 17 @ 8:31 AM ET
on the topic of prospects.....Ryan Rupert seems to have fought his way from the ECHL to now being one of our better players with the Marlies at the age of 20. Future NHLer?
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