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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:27 PM ET
So horrible the team went and won another cup within 4 years to make it up to the fans who had to suffer the previous 2 seasons.
- Aaron_85


That team would have won more. The third line was Bolland, Ladd and Versteeg for the most part. oh well.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Feb 16 @ 8:27 PM ET
Well.. he did submit qualifying offers after the deadline costing the Hawks more money having to sign players as UFAs as opposed to RFAs..... which resulted in the exodus of guys like Ladd, Big Buff, Colin Fraser and a few others....

Stupid maybe but not crazy!

- thehockeygod


The Hawks current GM was the one tasked to submitting the qualifying offers, Talon took the fall.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:28 PM ET
I know what you mean.. that's just how things went down for the Hawks.. yet after their rebuild they were able to win again because they drafted well enough to offset their losses.... next year or so will be different for them as Seabrook will be UFA and a few others too....

I'm a Leaf fan trust me I know what torture is... I think we all do!

- thehockeygod

Seabrook is the only one that matters. Saad is a RFA after this season and going nowhere.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 16 @ 8:29 PM ET
That team would have won more. The third line was Bolland, Ladd and Versteeg for the most part. oh well.
- Elbows15


Still more than Crosby and Malkin have and they pretty much kept their team together for a few years.
QuickSCF
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.11.2014

Feb 16 @ 8:29 PM ET
Gallagher tinordi Fucale parenteau Thomas Habs 1st and Buffalo 2nd for Phil Le thrill
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:31 PM ET
Still more than Crosby and Malkin have and they pretty much kept their team together for a few years.
- Aaron_85

Oh, I know. And eventually some of those guys would have had to be moved anyway. Might have been able to get more value for them. Never really know though.
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Feb 16 @ 8:31 PM ET
The Hawks current GM was the one tasked to submitting the qualifying offers, Talon took the fall.
- The Shrike



I'm just saying what happened... Not saying it was right or fair.. just what happened.

I like Tallon... but he like all GMs have done both good and bad things... Whose to say what really got him fired in Chi Town??
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 16 @ 8:32 PM ET
Gallagher tinordi Fucale parenteau Thomas Habs 1st and Buffalo 2nd for Phil Le thrill
- QuickSCF


Uh...OK. Deal
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Feb 16 @ 8:34 PM ET
Seabrook is the only one that matters. Saad is a RFA after this season and going nowhere.
- Elbows15



Now he is someone who the Leafs should target to play with Rielly..... if only he were a little bit younger though...

If I had my choice it would be him over Keith ion a heartbeat. The guy has character size and leadership qualities that would totally benefit Toronto!

Remember when Toews took that penalty in the playoffs and Seabrook went into the box calmed him down and then scored the winning goal in OT... that's what missing from Toronto!

QuickSCF
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.11.2014

Feb 16 @ 8:34 PM ET
Uh...OK. Deal
- MCharisma91


You even get little stumpy for you playoff OT goals of the future
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:35 PM ET
I hope this ends up with you guys challenging each other to a face to face fight.
- systemtool

Whipper from Calgary got Vantel from Van so worked up one night he challenged him to a fist fight....it was the funniest thing I ever read on HB.
Cfser
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Anyone who claims insider know
Joined: 07.26.2006

Feb 16 @ 8:36 PM ET
Whipper from Calgary got Vantel from Van so worked up one night he challenged him to a fist fight....it was the funniest thing I ever read on HB.
- Jeropotato

Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:37 PM ET
This is the Edmonton fans strategy...

1) Identify everything important or potentially good
2) offer everything else for a star from another team

Trade suggestions are more reasonable when both fan bases think "No Way". If one fan base, in this case Nashville's spends the next few weeks giggling behind their hands then it probably was not a good trade offer.

- Aetherial

Easy Jabroni....we haven't employed that strategy for years.....we pretty much have the reality of a rebuild figured out....sit back, draft and develop and tack on an extra 3 years to the poopty plan.
TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Feb 16 @ 8:37 PM ET
Whipper from Calgary got Vantel from Van so worked up one night he challenged him to a fist fight....it was the funniest thing I ever read on HB.
- Jeropotato

So did they meet at the monkey bars or the bike rack?
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 16 @ 8:37 PM ET
You even get little stumpy for you playoff OT goals of the future
- QuickSCF


That's actually not bad of a deal tbh.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:39 PM ET
Now he is someone who the Leafs should target to play with Rielly..... if only he were a little bit younger though...

If I had my choice it would be him over Keith ion a heartbeat. The guy has character size and leadership qualities that would totally benefit Toronto!

Remember when Toews took that penalty in the playoffs and Seabrook went into the box calmed him down and then scored the winning goal in OT... that's what missing from Toronto!

- thehockeygod

If I have my wish, he will retire a Hawk. The word around here is he is the vocal leader in the room. He has the best offensive instincts of any Hawks' D-man.

That moment may have saved that Cup run.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:40 PM ET
So horrible the team went and won another cup within 4 years to make it up to the fans who had to suffer the previous 2 seasons.
- Aaron_85

Yeah my heart pumps purple piss for those poor bastards.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 16 @ 8:41 PM ET
That's actually not bad of a deal tbh.
- MCharisma91


Just the kind of deal to keep us mediocre for years to come.
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

Feb 16 @ 8:41 PM ET
i wonder is kessel will even fetch us one 1st rounder. his value has to be poop now.........
- Lee Denault


It's not poop. This rebuild will only work if we get the right price for our star players. Nonis isn't stupid. He would rather keep kessel going into next year then give him away now. Someone will eventually come up to the plate and give fair value for Phi.

Who ever wants Kessel obviously thinks he makes their team better. We might be better off to ask for a young player, 2nd or prospect this year and a first rounder for NEXT years draft.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:42 PM ET
Yeah my heart pumps purple piss for those poor bastards.
- Jeropotato

hey you had the 80's, deal with it.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Feb 16 @ 8:42 PM ET
Yeah my heart pumps purple piss for those poor bastards.
- Jeropotato


It's like sympathizing with the Kardashians when Kim gets a bad haircut

(frank)ing whore
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 16 @ 8:43 PM ET
Easy Jabroni....we haven't employed that strategy for years.....we pretty much have the reality of a rebuild figured out....sit back, draft and develop and tack on an extra 3 years to the poopty plan.
- Jeropotato


yeah you're right That was way back in the cloutier days.

There were dumb Edmonton fan suggestions this year, but they were more the normal dumbness of fan bases overvaluing their players and completely ignoring what other GMs are trying to accomplish.
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Feb 16 @ 8:43 PM ET
I highly doubt he actually did that. Hawks wanted Stan to take over as GM (his dad was working with the team too) but didn't have a good reason to fire Tallon.

I really doubt the GM does that paperwork. That's probably an assistant GM's job to do.

- Aaron_85



You're probably right but thats what they sited as reasons for his firing...

Either way their loss.. kinda and Florida's gain.... he's done well there... minus the over spending on FAs to reach the cap floor..... some bad signing that had to be made..... now they have building blocks for years and are looking good... while Edmonton is still wondering why they are having problems..... hard to believe but sometimes when you draft 1st overall really matters aka Islander/Pens/TBay......

Something Toronto is hopefully figuring out now!!!
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

Feb 16 @ 8:44 PM ET
out of town scores looking good at the moment
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 16 @ 8:45 PM ET
It's like sympathizing with the Kardashians when Kim gets a bad haircut

(frank)ing whore

- DoubleDown


Well the haircut wouldn't be so public if she didn't flash her snatch every other day.

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