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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 10:59 PM ET
Hockey sense is something we'll be losing when Kimmo retires. It'd be good to inject some more into the roster.
- JAKEw1234


No matter whom they take do not expect them to be able to just jump in to play right away.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 10:59 PM ET
Hockey sense is something we'll be losing when Kimmo retires. It'd be good to inject some more into the roster.
- JAKEw1234


It is. That said, I won't be upset if they take Zadorov. I have a few guys I like more than others, but I haven't locked in on one in particular.

I'd be happy with Pulock, Horvat, Zadorov, Nurse...whomever.

EDIT: it's really fluid right now, outside the top 3 or 4 guys. There could be a run on defensemen. A guy like Horvat could jump into the top 5 after a brilliant Memorial Cup run. Signability concerns could hurt a kid like Nichushkin.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 20 @ 11:01 PM ET
It is. That said, I won't be upset if they take Zadorov. I have a few guys I like more than others, but I haven't locked in on one in particular.

I'd be happy with Pulock, Horvat, Zadorov, Nurse...whomever.

- Jsaquella


Sour on Shinkaruk?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 11:02 PM ET
Sour on Shinkaruk?
- ravishingone


Not really sour, but I do have some concerns about his ability to fight through physical play. He's got the skills, though
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 11:03 PM ET
It is. That said, I won't be upset if they take Zadorov. I have a few guys I like more than others, but I haven't locked in on one in particular.

I'd be happy with Pulock, Horvat, Zadorov, Nurse, Nichushkin, Ristolainen, ,Monahan, Domi ...whomever.

- Jsaquella

Fixed
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 11:04 PM ET
Fixed
- JAKEw1234


No need to fix it. I could list 20 names that I'd be happy with.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

May 20 @ 11:06 PM ET
No need to fix it. I could list 20 names that I'd be happy with.
- Jsaquella

I hope Boho keeps rising, as do some others...


*crosses fingers that pulock is there*
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 11:07 PM ET
Sour on Shinkaruk?
- ravishingone

Shinkaruk im calling to be on my flunk list. He feels like that guy that will be picked high and not meet expectations. Similar with Monahan, but I think Monahan will still be alright. Maybe like a Kostitsyn situation.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 11:08 PM ET
Shinkaruk im calling to be on my flunk list. He feels like that guy that will be picked high and not meet expectations. Similar with Monahan, but I think Monahan will still be alright. Maybe like a Kostitsyn situation.
- JAKEw1234


Except Monahan is nothing like Kostitsyn. He works his ass off, where Kostitsyn doesn't.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 11:08 PM ET
I hope Boho keeps rising, as do some others...


*crosses fingers that pulock is there*

- Yosimar89

If boho keeps rising, he has better chances to get picked top 10. With better chances to be picked top 10, leaves better chances for Pulock to be left at 11. Go BoHo!
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 11:08 PM ET
Except Monahan is nothing like Kostitsyn. He works his ass off, where Kostitsyn doesn't.
- Jsaquella

It was just a comparison, the players are different, it's just the feeling I get.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 20 @ 11:10 PM ET
It was just a comparison, the players are different, it's just the feeling I get.
- JAKEw1234


I get that, it's just a bad comparison. I think Monahan could very easily be a middle class man's version of Jason Spezza.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

May 20 @ 11:22 PM ET
No matter whom they take do not expect them to be able to just jump in to play right away.
- ob18


That may not necessarily be true, Laughton was pretty close to being on the roster last season and he was picked at 20....This year is a deeper draft so its possible that 11th pick makes the team. Now whether he is very productive is another story.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

May 20 @ 11:27 PM ET
Shinkaruk im calling to be on my flunk list. He feels like that guy that will be picked high and not meet expectations. Similar with Monahan, but I think Monahan will still be alright. Maybe like a Kostitsyn situation.
- JAKEw1234


Have you watched many 67s games this past season? Just wondering how educated of a guess your flunk prediction for Monahan is based on.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 20 @ 11:32 PM ET
Have you watched many 67s games this past season? Just wondering how educated of a guess your flunk prediction for Monahan is based on.
- Rocktane

doesn't monahan project pretty much to be a couts like plyr?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 11:33 PM ET
That may not necessarily be true, Laughton was pretty close to being on the roster last season and he was picked at 20....This year is a deeper draft so its possible that 11th pick makes the team. Now whether he is very productive is another story.
- flyerfan28

Maybe on a defensively depleted team, but there are just too many dmen on this team that need time, you can tell that by Mez being talked about as the #7. If we pick Pulock, and decide he is ready for NHL minutes, then expect both Coburn and Mez to be shown the door.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 11:35 PM ET
Have you watched many 67s games this past season? Just wondering how educated of a guess your flunk prediction for Monahan is based on.
- Rocktane

Not very, it's more of a feeling
but all high picked players are highly touted before the draft. It's what happens afterwards that's important. I could be wrong. Chances are actually better than not that I am wrong. It's just what I believe. I feel more strongly about Shinkaruk being a flunk pick, though.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

May 20 @ 11:38 PM ET
I get that, it's just a bad comparison. I think Monahan could very easily be a middle class man's version of Jason Spezza.
- Jsaquella


My opinion is that Monahan projects as a 2nd line centre. Solid two-way play, point production, possible perennial NHL all-star. I think an NHL comparable is Logan Couture. I think that highly of him.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 20 @ 11:39 PM ET
Mez being talked about as the #7.
- JAKEw1234

Wait what?

If we pick Pulock, and decide he is ready for NHL minutes, then expect both Coburn and Mez to be shown the door.
- JAKEw1234


Wait....WHAT?
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

May 20 @ 11:40 PM ET
Not very, it's more of a feeling
but all high picked players are highly touted before the draft. It's what happens afterwards that's important. I could be wrong. Chances are actually better than not that I am wrong. It's just what I believe. I feel more strongly about Shinkaruk being a flunk pick, though.

- JAKEw1234


I haven't seen a single game Shinkaruk has played in, so I can't say. Having watched many 67s games live over the years, my prediction for Monahan's NHL comparable as posted above is Logan Couture.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 20 @ 11:41 PM ET
My opinion is that Monahan projects as a 2nd line centre. Solid two-way play, point production, possible perennial NHL all-star. I think an NHL comparable is Mike Richards. I think that highly of him.
- Rocktane

Fixed.

Offensive upside....CHECK
Defensive awareness and reliability from the forward position....CHECK

Therefore, Mike Richards
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

May 20 @ 11:45 PM ET
Fixed.

Offensive upside....CHECK
Defensive awareness and reliability from the forward position....CHECK

Therefore, Mike Richards

- Giroux_Is_God


I don't think he will bring as much of a physical game and as much nasty as Mike does. Not that he is a soft player, just more in line with a Couture comparison. I think we already have our Mike Richards comparable in BSchenn.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 11:55 PM ET
Wait what?



Wait....WHAT?

- Giroux_Is_God


Reread the whole comment thread we discussed all of this
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 12:16 AM ET
Reread the whole comment thread we discussed all of this
- JAKEw1234

tl;dr
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 7:36 AM ET
I wonder what bryz thinks?
- twotoekenn


I'm not going to get involved in trivializing a natural disaster in which people, including Children, were killed. By continuing the pissing match you want.
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