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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 24 @ 12:20 PM ET
Jan Levine: My way too early grade on the Rangers' draft Plus those from others who rate prospects for a living..
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 12:25 PM ET
Couldn’t have said it better, 100% how I feel, I don’t think we did a great job filming organizational holes, did we get talented prospects yes but not enough of them where we needed, to me Gorton didn’t do Quinn too many favors with this draft
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:52 PM ET
A- is awfully generous for day one, considering that they could have traded down and easily gotten Kravtsov with a later pick. And, to your point, a huge overpayment to move up a few spots
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 24 @ 1:10 PM ET
A- is awfully generous for day one, considering that they could have traded down and easily gotten Kravtsov with a later pick. And, to your point, a huge overpayment to move up a few spots
- AxlRose91

Trading down requires a partner and as we saw from the draft, the only movement was late in the first round. So it’s possible they might have wanted to and were unable to find a match. The downgrade from a A to an A- factored in the trade, as I noted, agreeing with you that they overpaid.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:12 PM ET
I have to wonder, and I can’t believe I’m saying this but, do they even scout in Canada? Isn’t Staal the last player they drafted from Canada that has done anything in the NHL? This scouting staff is very odd. It’s like they only scout in a bubble, in Sweden and only LHDmen. There was no variety in this draft. Very flat and blahhh the first rd was a B+ but anyone can get that done. It’s hard to like anything past rd one
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:16 PM ET
Agree with your early outlook Jan, with a couple of exceptions. I find after the first couple of rounds the euros are frequently ranked lower than an equally talented North American. Diamonds can often be found in the later rounds
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
Agree with your early outlook Jan, with a couple of exceptions. I find after the first couple of rounds the euros are frequently ranked lower than an equally talented North American. Diamonds can often be found in the later rounds
- Hardbalz

No question, but in that case, trade down and acquire more picks. In addition, don't always go off the board. Now maybe they felt this draft was better for d-men than next season, which is why they went for blue liners. But Lindbom at 39 sure looks like a major reach compared to where he was ranked and especially compared to who was on the board there. Grab one more highly ranked forward and we think differently about the draft.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
Agree w/ everybody here, but I just find that some of the problems people have w/ these picks are b/c of assumptions. We and the writers have NO idea as to what the inner workings/discussions were on the draft floor. If NYR took the players they did, where they did, than I think we must default to trusting the decisions that were made since We don't have the same info that the NYR organization did.

Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
I’m still shocked they passed on Wahlstrom. He seems more guaranteed to hit than Kravtsov with that shot release he has, but time will tell.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
I’m still shocked they passed on Wahlstrom. He seems more guaranteed to hit than Kravtsov with that shot release he has, but time will tell.
- Sublime55

What I read about Wahlstrom is that he as of now requires a good play making center to get him the puck while Kravtsov can make his own shot. In addition have seen where some experts view his shot as almost as good as his skill with the puck. That’s why I am okay with the pick though I preferred Wahlstrom
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
Agree w/ everybody here, but I just find that some of the problems people have w/ these picks are b/c of assumptions. We and the writers have NO idea as to what the inner workings/discussions were on the draft floor. If NYR took the players they did, where they did, than I think we must default to trusting the decisions that were made since We don't have the same info that the NYR organization did.
- rrentz

It’s the pick of the goalie at 39 that really skews everything. Another forward there and we likely have a whole different view
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:23 PM ET
Jan Levine: My way too early grade on the Rangers' draft
Plus those from others who rate prospects for a living..

- airjan23

So people smarter than most of us questioned picking Olof Lindbom at 39. Shocking.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:25 PM ET
What I read about Wahlstrom is that he as of now requires a good play making center to get him the puck while Kravtsov can make his own shot. In addition have seen where some experts view his shot as almost as good as his skill with the puck. That’s why I am okay with the pick though I preferred Wahlstrom
- airjan23


Huh. He did play on a line with Farabee so that certainly helped his production.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:27 PM ET
Huh. He did play on a line with Farabee so that certainly helped his production.
- Sublime55

Wahlstrom's production increased nearly half a point per game when USDP promoted Jack Hughes from u17 to u18. Wahlstrom can score. He's just needs a feeder.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
So people smarter than most of us questioned picking Olof Lindbom at 39. Shocking.
- tomburton99

That pIck is indefensible
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:06 PM ET
It’s the pick of the goalie at 39 that really skews everything. Another forward there and we likely have a whole different view
- airjan23



I gotcha, but if NYR thought he was best goalie in draft and got wind that he was going to go before their next pick than Its acceptable, especially if he turns out to be a great goalie.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:09 PM ET
A- is awfully generous for day one, considering that they could have traded down and easily gotten Kravtsov with a later pick. And, to your point, a huge overpayment to move up a few spots
- AxlRose91


shutup Axl you fat (frank)
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
A- is awfully generous for day one, considering that they could have traded down and easily gotten Kravtsov with a later pick. And, to your point, a huge overpayment to move up a few spots
- AxlRose91



Dammit...Why weren't you NYR's GM...Things would be sooo much better

You pick to two best picks NYR got this year to pick on
milly28diablo
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 12.29.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
Don’t understand why the Rags (Devils fan) passed up a big RHD in Bouchard or Dobson who fell, and will most definitely join the roster sooner than Kravtsov. This also comes after giving up their best d-man since Leetch in Mcdonagh. Absolutely baffling as we see in today’s modern NHL that the only way to get these guys is drafting them. Don’t mind the KAndre Miller pick at all, but if they went with (let’s say) Dobson (who went to Long Island), Miller and Serron Noel over Lindqvist and Kravtsov, you potentially have a top pairing D-man in Dobson and a massive RW and LHD with unlimited potential and room to grow. You can find forwards anywhere in the draft, but D-man, especially RHD with the most potential, usually go early in the first round. NYR are also stocked with Centers and some are bound to go to the wings. Makes no sense to pass on the Big Right handed shot at all, even if Kravstov is a stud. And as a Devils fan, I love there picks, except for Miller (sarcasm).
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
Dammit...Why weren't you NYR's GM...Things would be sooo much better

You pick to two best picks NYR got this year to pick on

- rrentz


I just love when people say "you could have traded down" or you "gave up to much" like they were sitting on the trade floor listening to all the teams. That probably bothers me the most. I have no issue if you want to discuss why a player might not be a good pick. But the other stuff is just talking out of the ass.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
That pIck is indefensible
- Slimtj100

I don't mind them picking him. But they could have moved down to get him. Considering the two top ranked goalies, (#1 NA and #1 Euro) went at 62 and 65.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:19 PM ET
Don’t understand why the Rags (Devils fan) passed up a big RHD in Bouchard or Dobson who fell, and will most definitely join the roster sooner than Kravtsov. This also comes after giving up their best d-man since Leetch in Mcdonagh. Absolutely baffling as we see in today’s modern NHL that the only way to get these guys is drafting them. Don’t mind the KAndre Miller pick at all, but if they went with (let’s say) Dobson (who went to Long Island), Miller and Serron Noel over Lindqvist and Kravtsov, you potentially have a top pairing D-man in Dobson and a massive RW and LHD with unlimited potential and room to grow. You can find forwards anywhere in the draft, but D-man, especially RHD with the most potential, usually go early in the first round. NYR are also stocked with Centers and some are bound to go to the wings. Makes no sense to pass on the Big Right handed shot at all, even if Kravstov is a stud. And as a Devils fan, I love there picks, except for Miller (sarcasm).
- milly28diablo


I'm thinking the Rangers think they got a steal in Miller. Because he has all those things listed, he is just raw talent right now. So they went with a forward in Kravtsov, who they obviously liked a lot and maybe thought there won't be much difference in Dobson or Miller "if" Miller gets to his potential. Just a guess on my part
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:21 PM ET
I just love when people say "you could have traded down" or you "gave up to much" like they were sitting on the trade floor listening to all the teams. That probably bothers me the most. I have no issue if you want to discuss why a player might not be a good pick. But the other stuff is just talking out of the ass.
- mdw7413



That is what infuriates me the most. As far as us idiots know pick #40 was going to take the goalie
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:43 PM ET
shutup Axl you fat (frank)
- jimbro83

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 24 @ 3:45 PM ET
Also his name being Olaf doesn't help the matters
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