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Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:14 AM ET
Peter Tessier: Should the Jets acquire a 1st round pick for 2018? Taking a look at if the Jets should get some salary cap relief by trading for picks for this draft?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
Curious why you think Copp would not be made available? If someone offered a 2nd or third rounder, I’d take it in a heartbeat.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jun 17 @ 12:34 PM ET
I think Myers is the logical candidate if you don't think the Jets can afford to re-sign him. Jets are stacked on the right side, and you could certainly trade him and get back in the first round.
Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
Curious why you think Copp would not be made available? If someone offered a 2nd or third rounder, I’d take it in a heartbeat.
- Ross77


I think they might but I think they like Copp and his role right now.
oseductive
Joined: 05.29.2018

Jun 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
It seems like the jets want to try to keep Paul Stastny do you think if they moved Perrault and Myers that would fetch a first for either or?
junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Jun 17 @ 3:31 PM ET
Trouba would save the most money and fetch the best return. Would make more sense short term to keep and extend Myers
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jun 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
My initial response is NO. We need to deal with our RFA’s and cap issues.
However, it really does depend on what # pick is involved.
Hockey Biltong
Joined: 07.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:33 PM ET
Trade and upgrade.Go for the position you need filled two years from now.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jun 17 @ 7:50 PM ET
Trouba would save the most money and fetch the best return. Would make more sense short term to keep and extend Myers
- junaka3


No doubt Trouba would generate a huge return; he is awesome. For the same reason I can't see Winnipeg parting ways with him.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 17 @ 8:42 PM ET
Trouba would save the most money and fetch the best return. Would make more sense short term to keep and extend Myers
- junaka3


This
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 17 @ 11:16 PM ET
My initial response is NO. We need to deal with our RFA’s and cap issues.
However, it really does depend on what # pick is involved.

- bennythehat


Agreed Benny. It is not a pressing issue with so much talent still in the pipeline. It would have to be the right deal. I don't see the Jets top two lines changing to much over the next two to three years unless Wheeler gets too greedy. By then Vesalainen and Roslovic should be ready to start filling any gaps. Same with Niku, Poolman, Stanley, etc on D.

I'd rather try and obtain a current player with strong upside such as Puljujarvi for possibly a bit less than it would cost for a mid to high first-round pick.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
It's kind of a silly question - even a first round pick (sometimes exception #1/2 pick) doesn't help you win for several years and Jets are in their window now. They should not be trading away depth for picks unless they are forced to for cap compliance, or, for moving a player that no longer fits the stage of the organization (Ladd, Stafford).

Several players with NHL potential on other teams are in considerable competition to make the Jets roster - and this is healthy - but there comes a point when it is just wasted potential.

The only reasons to trade for picks are for hockey reasons when a prospect overtakes a veteran or for cap reasons. The only reason to trade up to a 1st at the draft table is if the player you want is still available when opportunity for the trade happens. Don't make trades just because you can.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 18 @ 12:14 PM ET
Agreed Benny. It is not a pressing issue with so much talent still in the pipeline. It would have to be the right deal. I don't see the Jets top two lines changing to much over the next two to three years unless Wheeler gets too greedy. By then Vesalainen and Roslovic should be ready to start filling any gaps. Same with Niku, Poolman, Stanley, etc on D.

I'd rather try and obtain a current player with strong upside such as Puljujarvi for possibly a bit less than it would cost for a mid to high first-round pick.

- jetsnation


I like Puljujarvi, skates like crazy and don't forget that the pundits were actually talking about Laine and Puli either being the #2 pick that year. Laine hit the ground running (skating) and Puli is fighting for a roster spot in Edmonton but this kid has upside imop. Roslovic centering Puli and Ehlers?? Lots of speed on that line.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
It's kind of a silly question - even a first round pick (sometimes exception #1/2 pick) doesn't help you win for several years and Jets are in their window now. They should not be trading away depth for picks unless they are forced to for cap compliance, or, for moving a player that no longer fits the stage of the organization (Ladd, Stafford).

Several players with NHL potential on other teams are in considerable competition to make the Jets roster - and this is healthy - but there comes a point when it is just wasted potential.

The only reasons to trade for picks are for hockey reasons when a prospect overtakes a veteran or for cap reasons. The only reason to trade up to a 1st at the draft table is if the player you want is still available when opportunity for the trade happens. Don't make trades just because you can.

- 2.0


Great point 2.0! I think its funny when talk about trading Myers for a first round pick. When we will be trading our first round pick next year to acquire a guy like Myers at the deadline. If any move gets made, it involves one of our potential big contracts.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
Great point 2.0! I think its funny when talk about trading Myers for a first round pick. When we will be trading our first round pick next year to acquire a guy like Myers at the deadline. If any move gets made, it involves one of our potential big contracts.
- TheUltimateJet



Moosejuice17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
thanks for post on last topic 2.0, this so called personality clash originated with my
initial post on here with response from 77 " you know nothing about Jets!! hahahaha
and bunch more haha s but you get my drift. Not the level of maturity or sophistication I expect from Jets fan or people trading OPINIONS on this site, If he can confine his comments to other posters, I will do same.
And I am not trolling, I genuinely would like feedback next season from those that are at the games and can share what they see that isn't on tv telecasts. No reason to
apologize for 7-8 regulars, I wasn't bashing regulars, just one who attacked me for
some reason. Lets try get more variety of regulars on here, to provide different feedback on jets and teams they support. Hope that's the end of that.
Regarding trading for pick...Ehlers for Carolina's 2nd overall, they need scoring , jets
need some grit to go along with sklll...pick Thachuk and Jets have the power forward
they need....would throw in Mason, Lemieux and Niku if it meant Hanifan came back too.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
thanks for post on last topic 2.0, this so called personality clash originated with my
initial post on here with response from 77 " you know nothing about Jets!! hahahaha
and bunch more haha s but you get my drift. Not the level of maturity or sophistication I expect from Jets fan or people trading OPINIONS on this site, If he can confine his comments to other posters, I will do same.
And I am not trolling, I genuinely would like feedback next season from those that are at the games and can share what they see that isn't on tv telecasts. No reason to
apologize for 7-8 regulars, I wasn't bashing regulars, just one who attacked me for
some reason. Lets try get more variety of regulars on here, to provide different feedback on jets and teams they support. Hope that's the end of that.
Regarding trading for pick...Ehlers for Carolina's 2nd overall, they need scoring , jets
need some grit to go along with sklll...pick Thachuk and Jets have the power forward
they need....would throw in Mason, Lemieux and Niku if it meant Hanifan came back too.

- Moosejuice17


Stop whining. So someone challenged you, big deal. You say your opinion, someone says there opinion, sometimes they clash. Whoopdee doo, who cares. Go get a hanky and dry your eyes. Waaaa.......
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
thanks for post on last topic 2.0, this so called personality clash originated with my
initial post on here with response from 77 " you know nothing about Jets!! hahahaha
and bunch more haha s but you get my drift. Not the level of maturity or sophistication I expect from Jets fan or people trading OPINIONS on this site, If he can confine his comments to other posters, I will do same.
And I am not trolling, I genuinely would like feedback next season from those that are at the games and can share what they see that isn't on tv telecasts. No reason to
apologize for 7-8 regulars, I wasn't bashing regulars, just one who attacked me for
some reason. Lets try get more variety of regulars on here, to provide different feedback on jets and teams they support. Hope that's the end of that.
Regarding trading for pick...Ehlers for Carolina's 2nd overall, they need scoring , jets
need some grit to go along with sklll...pick Thachuk and Jets have the power forward
they need....would throw in Mason, Lemieux and Niku if it meant Hanifan came back too.

- Moosejuice17

Just stop. Own what you did and stop making stuff up. I never said “you know nothing about the Jets”. I took offence to you calling me a so called expert and saying my iq was 77. Don’t come in here saying I started it. That’s enough, you want to talk jets and ask questions great, you want to keep coming at me, that’s fine as well. I can handle it and have no problem mixing it up. I’m not going anywhere.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 18 @ 2:51 PM ET
Just stop. Own what you did and stop making stuff up. I never said “you know nothing about the Jets”. I took offence to you calling me a so called expert and saying my iq was 77. Don’t come in here saying I started it. That’s enough, you want to talk jets and ask questions great, you want to keep coming at me, that’s fine as well. I can handle it and have no problem mixing it up. I’m not going anywhere.
- Ross77


Not to make fun of the situation, but having an IQ of 77 is better than having one less than 70. Having less than a 70 would indicate that cognitive impairment was present.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 18 @ 2:53 PM ET

- 2.0


I am not following you 2.0.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
I am not following you 2.0.
- TheUltimateJet


Does this mean you are less than 70? (Its just a joke, don't get bent out of shape!)

Everyone just relax, BTW, I am not trading Ehlers for the second pick, as much as I like Thachuk. Ehlers has grown every year and will grow again. I think he is a great contract for the term and I hope he is here for a long long time.


2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 18 @ 3:32 PM ET
I am not following you 2.0.
- TheUltimateJet


I was agreeing with you completely.

- its a 'duh' to the idea of trading Myers for a pick and then trading the pick at the deadline for a player like Myers.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:52 PM ET
Back to jets talk,

I’m ok trading Myers cause I honestly think Poolman can be really good and not cost much. I also want to find room for Niku.

I think down the road (not now ) we will absolutely have to look at trading ehlers or Connor. Hopefully Vesalainen progresses and become a top 6 LW. It doesn’t make any sense to eventually have 3 - LW’s making 6 million plus on long term deals. Especially if we still have guys like Perreault, Petan, Lemieux or whoever who can step in on the bottom two lines. It will be trading from a position of strength to fill a bigger need elsewhere.

I’ve wondered if Comrie could be part of a draft day trade. The jets may want to move forward with Phillips and Berdin on the moose and maybe Comrie has value? Also I’d be shocked if they didn’t draft another goalie next weekend.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:53 PM ET
Stop whining. So someone challenged you, big deal. You say your opinion, someone says there opinion, sometimes they clash. Whoopdee doo, who cares. Go get a hanky and dry your eyes. Waaaa.......
- CharlieDog

👍
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 18 @ 4:37 PM ET
I was agreeing with you completely.

- its a 'duh' to the idea of trading Myers for a pick and then trading the pick at the deadline for a player like Myers.

- 2.0


I agree with you as well.
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