Steve Palumbo: Winds of change headed to Anaheim

What would Ducks be willing to give up to take on that anchor of a contract

What would Ducks be willing to give up to take on that anchor of a contract
- VANTEL

That's the trick and that's why there are only 31 GM jobs in the NHL.

That's the trick and that's why there are only 31 GM jobs in the NHL.
- Steven Palumbo

I know a team like Vancouver could be interested if the price was right (prospects). We have also been linked to Ducks having interest in Sutter. Maybe a package could be had .

At this point whatever it takes to rid the team of Perry .... Unlike other teams that have had 2 high paid Studs ...

Ducks have had to play 10 with 15 for him to shine...

Sans 10/11 when he went completely off the rails and won the Hart and Rocket Richard an insane finish...
Steve what would the implications be for a buyout now and going forward?

I can see and hope that all of Steel / Jones / and Troy Terry are in the lineup to start next yr.

Perhaps package Richie / Perry and a pick somewhere to get picks back and rid Ducks of a couple of knuckleheads. Jones is going to make NR irrelevant sooner rather than later.

It would take a LOT and that's why I don't think it's going to happen. The ONLY scenario I could see POSSIBLY happening would be trading Perry to Ottawa for Bobby Ryan. The Ducks would save about $1.5 million off the cap and Ottawa would be off the hook of a big salary 2 years sooner. Corey is from the Ottawa area so he'd probably agree to it. I don't know if Ryan has a NTC though, he really didn't leave Anaheim on the best of terms.
This is all a pipe dream, anyway. The Ducks are stuck with Perry. Let's hope the skating guru he's working with in the off-season can work miracles.

At this point whatever it takes to rid the team of Perry .... Unlike other teams that have had 2 high paid Studs ...

Ducks have had to play 10 with 15 for him to shine...

Sans 10/11 when he went completely off the rails and won the Hart and Rocket Richard an insane finish...
Steve what would the implications be for a buyout now and going forward?

I can see and hope that all of Steel / Jones / and Troy Terry are in the lineup to start next yr.

Perhaps package Richie / Perry and a pick somewhere to get picks back and rid Ducks of a couple of knuckleheads. Jones is going to make NR irrelevant sooner rather than later.
- dozerD10

Buyout cap hit for Perry would be 4.2m, 2.7m, 6.7m, 2m, 2m, 2m. (Per year, rounded.)

Buyout cap hit for Perry would be 4.2m, 2.7m, 6.7m, 2m, 2m, 2m. (Per year, rounded.)
- Antilles

DAMN ....

Step 1) Pick up phone
Step 2) Ask to speak to Mr. Dorion
Step 3) Start off with "What do you want for Mike Hoffman and his fiance?"
Step 4) Wait for him to say "Anything"
Step 5) Tell Corey he gets to have bunk beds with Bobby again.

Done.

Yeah dux. I would like to see Bobby Ryan back. But alas cap be dammed it's impossible. No way Perry waves his no trade clause. I mean I wouldn't. But anyways I think Perry can still be productive if we put him on his own line with Rico and Ritchie. Obviously 30 goals might be a stretch but 20 goals and 30 assists are not. Compared to guys like JVR , James neal, Evander kane he is either as good or better. Also Perry has been durable the last 3 years. Still it's like he has a black rain cloud following him because of his contract.
I don't know. Obviously Perry ain't getting any younger. But he was drafted a duck and I'd like him to stay. The options aren't very good right now. I mean nothing last forever. And we are not a contender anymore. So maybe it's time to face facts and talk about something that has to happen eventually. I that dreaded 7 letter word that starts with a R.
REBUILD

Yeah dux. I would like to see Bobby Ryan back. But alas cap be dammed it's impossible. No way Perry waves his no trade clause. I mean I wouldn't. But anyways I think Perry can still be productive if we put him on his own line with Rico and Ritchie. Obviously 30 goals might be a stretch but 20 goals and 30 assists are not. Compared to guys like JVR , James neal, Evander kane he is either as good or better. Also Perry has been durable the last 3 years. Still it's like he has a black rain cloud following him because of his contract.
I don't know. Obviously Perry ain't getting any younger. But he was drafted a duck and I'd like him to stay. The options aren't very good right now. I mean nothing last forever. And we are not a contender anymore. So maybe it's time to face facts and talk about something that has to happen eventually. I that dreaded 7 letter word that starts with a R.
REBUILD
- Eman87654

I don't think the Ducks need to rebuild, they still have a ton of assets and there are still too many defensemen in the system. I believe Steel, Jones, and Terry will be given a real good shot to make the team next year. Also, Kevin Roy, Corey Tropp, and Kallie Kossila should be given a long look, too. Those three have played really well in San Diego and they all can skate.

I don't think the Ducks need to rebuild, they still have a ton of assets and there are still too many defensemen in the system. I believe Steel, Jones, and Terry will be given a real good shot to make the team next year. Also, Kevin Roy, Corey Tropp, and Kallie Kossila should be given a long look, too. Those three have played really well in San Diego and they all can skate.
- duxcup07

I'm very bullish on the gulls. I thought they should have had more of a chance last year. That said. All the prospects that we have are being put on the slow burner. And I don't believe in Randy Carlyle anymore. When we hired him I said he needed to embrace the young players we have. And so far all he's done is hold them back. I really think he has a lot to teach them. But he seems to have no patience with them.
As far as the prospect pool goes. Yeah there's depth. But still we lack high end forward talent. That coupled with Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler declining production means we have little offensive punch. I mean look at our top nine. We are big and skilled yes. But also slow and old. That's not sustainable to winning. The defense and goaltending are good. But also expensive. Fowler is making 6 million. lindholm 5.8. Mason is 4. Montour is about to get a raise. And Gibson should get a raise too. When we were winning over the past 6 years these guys were on Entry level contracts. So we are at the point of not being able to sign players the next couple of years. I mean we still need more depth in our forward group. But we are going to end letting guys go do to the salary cap.
So it dosen't look good. For the next 3 years. And I really don't wanna watch more seasons like the one we had last year. So rebuild.
Addendum: also I'd like to say if start restocking the farm right now. Buy the time the Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler contracts are over these prospects we draft should be ready to play in the NHL. Think about that

I'm very bullish on the gulls. I thought they should have had more of a chance last year. That said. All the prospects that we have are being put on the slow burner. And I don't believe in Randy Carlyle anymore. When we hired him I said he needed to embrace the young players we have. And so far all he's done is hold them back. I really think he has a lot to teach them. But he seems to have no patience with them.
As far as the prospect pool goes. Yeah there's depth. But still we lack high end forward talent. That coupled with Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler declining production means we have little offensive punch. I mean look at our top nine. We are big and skilled yes. But also slow and old. That's not sustainable to winning. The defense and goaltending are good. But also expensive. Fowler is making 6 million. lindholm 5.8. Mason is 4. Montour is about to get a raise. And Gibson should get a raise too. When we were winning over the past 6 years these guys were on Entry level contracts. So we are at the point of not being able to sign players the next couple of years. I mean we still need more depth in our forward group. But we are going to end letting guys go do to the salary cap.
So it dosen't look good. For the next 3 years. And I really don't wanna watch more seasons like the one we had last year. So rebuild.
Addendum: also I'd like to say if start restocking the farm right now. Buy the time the Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler contracts are over these prospects we draft should be ready to play in the NHL. Think about that
- Eman87654

I don't understand this quote. He played Marcus Pettersson over Bieksa in the playoffs last year after Bieksa returned and stunk up game 2. The main reason for Bieksa's hissy fit at the exit interviews. Also, he's got an edict from Murray to get younger and faster. If he doesn't do it, he's definitely gone and Eakins is surely going to get promoted. Hey, I'm no Carlyle fan either, and I think he'll be done after his contract is up unless they win the Cup.

Nice, concise article, with criticism but without slander. Good job. I feel Corey Perry can have a rejuvenation at some level, but it will require the right situation. Kind of like the Eric Stall situation.

I don't understand this quote. He played Marcus Pettersson over Bieksa in the playoffs last year after Bieksa returned and stunk up game 2. The main reason for Bieksa's hissy fit at the exit interviews. Also, he's got an edict from Murray to get younger and faster. If he doesn't do it, he's definitely gone and Eakins is surely going to get promoted. Hey, I'm no Carlyle fan either, and I think he'll be done after his contract is up unless they win the Cup.
- duxcup07

Yeah the one thing we can All say is that RC has come around on playing kids ... He’s much more open to it than in the past ... Kase being a prime example and some of the D and let’s not forget the fact he loves Larsson also ... At least 3 young new F faces will be regulars next year bringing a ton of youth and new energy to the lineup...

I would like to see -

67-15- the beard .. 18 minutes
7-17-33... 15 min
Kase - Rico - Jones/ Terry 15 minutes
Grant - Steel - Terry or Jones ... 12 minutes

With 10 & NR traded for picks or depth D ..

47-42.... 24 min
4- 26... 24 min
Kids / vet .... 12 min

I've been a Ducks fan my whole life. That being said professional hockey is as much a business as anything else. As fans we see players, as a GM you see assets. Perrys production is not worth $8.2 of our cap space. If you combine that with Keslers ridiculous contract of $6.8 and the great news we all got that he may be done this season and possibly..indefinitely thats $17 million dollars we just got in cap space. Combine that with the cap going up and this is great news for Ducks fans. This team doesn't need a rebuild, thankfully most of the core now is under 26; Fowler, Lindholm, Rakell, Manson, Montour and our future vesna winner in Gibson. This team needs a retool and Murry not to get lost in what a player has done in his career and hand him a contract based on that.. Im still mind blown that he gave a 32 year old Kesler with multiple hip surgeries at the time an extension of $6.8 for that term. Murrys trades in general leave me very gun shy. Has he honestly won a trade yet? He's been at the helm for 9 years now and if it wasn't for Rakell and Kase being on this team he'd have a grand total of 0 20 goal scorers..in other words 9 seasons and to only draft and keep two 20 plus goal scorers is an atrocious record in itself. He had a cup winning team, he squandered the youth of Perry and Getzlaf, has lost almost every single trade he's ever made and this to me is where I have issues with faith of this club. He's a great scout for D.. the other parts of being a GM he is below sub par

Steve Palumbo: Winds of change headed to Anaheim
- Steven Palumbo

Ducks made a great signing with Rakell so that takes some of the sting out of Perry's contract. Lindholm is another good signing

The Kesler contract is also a questionable one, 4 more years at almost 7 million. Yuck.

They might be better served trying to move that one, though he also has that NMC thing tied to it.

Yeah the one thing we can All say is that RC has come around on playing kids ... He’s much more open to it than in the past ... Kase being a prime example and some of the D and let’s not forget the fact he loves Larsson also ... At least 3 young new F faces will be regulars next year bringing a ton of youth and new energy to the lineup...

I would like to see -

67-15- the beard .. 18 minutes
7-17-33... 15 min
Kase - Rico - Jones/ Terry 15 minutes
Grant - Steel - Terry or Jones ... 12 minutes

With 10 & NR traded for picks or depth D ..

47-42.... 24 min
4- 26... 24 min
Kids / vet .... 12 min
- dozerD10

Randy ain't changed. 2 years ago we had cap problems and he had to play the kids. Last year you in the second half of the the season randy totally went with veterans. Even though In the beinging of the year the gulls a long with stellar play from gibby kept us in. He totally has you guys fooled.

That's the trick and that's why there are only 31 GM jobs in the NHL.
- Steven Palumbo

Right off the bat I want it known I hate the Ducks almost as much as the Oilers, for obvious reasons. I especially hated Perry. But sadly, besides Tkachuk & sometimes Ferland, Perry is something really missing on our team from a nasty point of view.

I know he's slowing down & his game is declining but there are some that feel signing Kovalchuk would be Ok for 2-3 years & personally I would rather Perry.
So would a scenario work of:
Perry, Ritchie & a 2018 2nd for Brouwer(4.5 for 2 more years) & Stone (3.5 for 2 more years)?
Just curious.

Right off the bat I want it known I hate the Ducks almost as much as the Oilers, for obvious reasons. I especially hated Perry. But sadly, besides Tkachuk & sometimes Ferland, Perry is something really missing on our team from a nasty point of view.

I know he's slowing down & his game is declining but there are some that feel signing Kovalchuk would be Ok for 2-3 years & personally I would rather Perry.
So would a scenario work of:
Perry, Ritchie & a 2018 2nd for Brouwer(4.5 for 2 more years) & Stone (3.5 for 2 more years)?
Just curious.
- Kevin R

This is possibly one of the worst trade value ideas I have seen on this site.
And that is saying something

This is possibly one of the worst trade value ideas I have seen on this site.
And that is saying something
- Ducksfan788

Funny thing is not many Flame fans want anything to do with that Perry contract either.
Was just curious.

Funny thing is not many Flame fans want anything to do with that Perry contract either.
Was just curious.
- Kevin R

Whats really funny is you have both of them on your team for 8 million combined cap

Let me break down why your proposal was so funny, since you need a lesson in value.

Brouwer - 22pts
Stone - 10pts

They combined for 32pts for 8 million dollars..ouch thats really funny

Perry -49pts
Ritchie - 27pts

They combined for 76 for roughly 9 million

So in your world the Ducks should trade for not even half the production and take on the same amount of money they are putting out the door? ohhh and on top of it give you a 2nd round pick?

What the hell is in the water in Alberta?

Whats really funny is you have both of them on your team for 8 million combined cap

Let me break down why your proposal was so funny, since you need a lesson in value.

Brouwer - 22pts
Stone - 10pts

They combined for 32pts for 8 million dollars..ouch thats really funny

Perry -49pts
Ritchie - 27pts

They combined for 76 for roughly 9 million

So in your world the Ducks should trade for not even half the production and take on the same amount of money they are putting out the door? ohhh and on top of it give you a 2nd round pick?

What the hell is in the water in Alberta?
- Ducksfan788

Stone is moveable, value maybe 2nd or 3rd pick, so not really dead salary. Perry has $25 million left owing on his contract. He brings no where close to $25mill worth of value, you guys have benefitted from his peak years. Brouwer has 9.0 mill left.
I just thought Ritchie would compensate for that 16.0 mill difference.
Brouwer is our salary dump no doubt about it, not worth the 4.5 but he is a decent 4th line player. Just saying. I guess its all about perspective & the money side of the equation. I guess throwing the 2nd in there may have been a little greedy though lol.
Nothing personal dude. The water is fine here.

Stone is moveable, value maybe 2nd or 3rd pick, so not really dead salary. Perry has $25 million left owing on his contract. He brings no where close to $25mill worth of value, you guys have benefitted from his peak years. Brouwer has 9.0 mill left.
I just thought Ritchie would compensate for that 16.0 mill difference.
Brouwer is our salary dump no doubt about it, not worth the 4.5 but he is a decent 4th line player. Just saying. I guess its all about perspective & the money side of the equation. I guess throwing the 2nd in there may have been a little greedy though lol.
Nothing personal dude. The water is fine here.
- Kevin R

The scenario is workable with a couple tweaks ... For me though trading in the division is just the worst ... Pears would be so bent that he goes nuts and has a 30g / 35a yr. and I think even trading Richie this young is borderline mistake ... but to make Pears go away I'd include him... but I don't like the idea of a division trade at all for these pieces.

I for one want Perry to stay. We wouldn't be able to spend that $8M effectively anyway, we would blow it on a couple new Bieksa/Stoner type contracts and the team would be worse overall. Bob should honor the contract he offered and signed and let Perry play out his days as a Duck. Regardless of his declining production, he's one of the 3 or 4 best players we've ever had. Let's be the team that still has some loyalty.

I might feel differently if we could use his cap space on a gamebreaker, but we all know the Ducks can't attract gamebreaker free agents unless their brother is Rob Niedermayer.