is anyone really surprised to hear that about pommer?
- Michael Pachla

nope

nice guy, who wore the C before in buffalo by default and tenure

Hm. I'm not sure I want Galy. For what I'd personally want to build, I want quality guys on and off the ice that continually give their all to the team. From what I've read, that is not the case with him.

I like Patches, but we'd need more. Juulsen I guess.
- TheSabresTaco

I assume you mean Galchenyuk not Gallagher and if so I can understand that especially at the building stage vs finishing stage. Juulsen would make a lot of sense as a target and you have to give to get but that might hurt. Patches I don't think makes sense for the Sabres either.

If Juulsen for arguments sake would you be willing to take back a contract or retain salary to balance a bit?

You know it’s bad, when you aspire to be the Edmonton Oilers... rebuild number 546 coming soon to an arena near you.

It's not in HD.
- TheSabresTaco

Little old for me no disrespect

But you guys made me watch planes and that was the worst movie

My source told me that the Eichel/ROR beef all starts from ROR’s preference for no olives in his egg salad.

If that’s true, theres no way they’re solving that one. Somebody’s gotta go, “and I’m all outta cake.”
- Der Kaiser

I assume you mean Galchenyuk not Gallagher and if so I can understand that especially at the building stage vs finishing stage. Juulsen would make a lot of sense as a target and you have to give to get but that might hurt. Patches I don't think makes sense for the Sabres either.

If Juulsen for arguments sake would you be willing to take back a contract or retain salary to balance a bit?
- Takemedrunkimhome

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Little old for me no disrespect

But you guys made me watch planes and that was the worst movie
- gerbe75pts

Would you watch universally beloved older movies like The Godfather or Citizen Kane?

Ristolainen will not be a Sabre much longer. He’s a problem for the coaches
- sbroads24

growing pains adjusting to a new coach, with a team that sucks


I still think he will stick around


it's not like we were hearing these stories from disco sucks or murray


ror, different story

Ristolainen will not be a Sabre much longer. He’s a problem for sbroads24
- sbroads24

Fixed

Fixed
- feetontheair22

risto for myers and armia


word has it, pegula is forcing this trade to try to get 2 season tickets from sbroads24

I assume you mean Galchenyuk not Gallagher and if so I can understand that especially at the building stage vs finishing stage. Juulsen would make a lot of sense as a target and you have to give to get but that might hurt. Patches I don't think makes sense for the Sabres either.

If Juulsen for arguments sake would you be willing to take back a contract or retain salary to balance a bit?
- Takemedrunkimhome

Well, if it's not Patches, I think I would do Poehling and Juulsen for ROR.. I don' think that's an overpayment by either team, but if you don't think it's fair, we could add a 4th, or a B prospect like Bailey, or take Shaw for Bogo and Larsson

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- Michael Pachla

So ROR is a core piece here, who is the core guy coming back? Don’t think either of them would be considered core.... just two guys ( granted not bad players... but)

Just don’t think mtl makes a good trade partner.

So ROR is a core piece here, who is the core guy coming back? Don’t think either of them would be considered core.... just two guys ( granted not bad players... but)
- gordong

that's your top-two left wingers there, plus some protection from patches for mitts on the second line

So ROR is a core piece here, who is the core guy coming back? Don’t think either of them would be considered core.... just two guys ( granted not bad players... but)

Just don’t think mtl makes a good trade partner.
- gordong

I don't know how I feel about Drouin. He's like 'a guy' to me. Just kinda there.

Putting together the pieces of many stories, including a nice long conversation with a NHL ref, it seems like Eichel is hard on those who aren't going hard and the older guys don't really care much for being yelled at by a 21 year old
- Shadman306

I can see that but as an outsider to all this it seems like they are in a tough spot. I agree that ROR needs to go but I just don't agree it should have anything to do with his relationship with Eichel. He is overpaid to be a #2 and is too slow for the way they want to play. Also the #1 pick this year isn't a Sid Ovi or McJesus so its going to be at least 2 years until things start turning around. Some things I've read from people on here are saying different and its sad.

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- Michael Pachla

Swapping one guy most perceive as a prima donna for another

So ROR is a core piece here, who is the core guy coming back? Don’t think either of them would be considered core.... just two guys ( granted not bad players... but)

Just don’t think mtl makes a good trade partner.
- gordong

I think there's a lot MTL could give you, but their prospects, assuming that's what we want, are not too hot. Poehling and Juulsen would be cool, but correct me if I'm wrong, they're no more than a top 6C and a top 4D. However, they're young and cost controlled. Maybe get that #35.

I can see that but as an outsider to all this it seems like they are in a tough spot. I agree that ROR needs to go but I just don't agree it should have anything to do with his relationship with Eichel. He is overpaid to be a #2 and is too slow for the way they want to play. Also the #1 pick this year isn't a Sid Ovi or McJesus so its going to be at least 2 years until things start turning around. Some things I've read from people on here are saying different and its sad.
- Mino42

It's not just about Eichel though. His attitude is affecting the entire team, and himself.

Allegedly.

I don't know how I feel about Drouin. He's like 'a guy' to me. Just kinda there.
- TheSabresTaco

am somewhat conflicted myself...but he's got some speed and skill

IMHO If ROR or Risto get traded you better get back someone that is a core piece... and if Risto is a problem with the coaches, maybe he just needs to sit his ass on the bench for some games, or we need stronger coaching?

Swapping one guy most perceive as a prima donna for another
- jcragcrumple

yeah, I get it....but put him on the wing with jack and let 'er rip

I can see that but as an outsider to all this it seems like they are in a tough spot. I agree that ROR needs to go but I just don't agree it should have anything to do with his relationship with Eichel. He is overpaid to be a #2 and is too slow for the way they want to play. Also the #1 pick this year isn't a Sid Ovi or McJesus so its going to be at least 2 years until things start turning around. Some things I've read from people on here are saying different and its sad.
- Mino42

Um, Have you not been listening to anyone:

He has been called the Connor McDavid of D-men.

IMHO If ROR or Risto get traded you better get back someone that is a core piece... and if Risto is a problem with the coaches, maybe he just needs to sit his ass on the bench for some games, or we need stronger coaching?
- gordong

what core piece from another team would you like to add?

This adds up, to me. He's trying hard to lead a team of guys who don't give a poop. This is why we suck. I guarantee if all the guys were on the same page, we'd be 20 points better. At least.

Bold claim, I know.

Were you the one who posted yesterday or something about how this ref was saying how the older guys just roll their eyes at Eichel
- TheSabresTaco

I mentioned something like that the other day and I think someone else seconded it

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- Michael Pachla

Without going through a number of reasons I don't see this happening I'll go with the saddest reason:

Xenophobia

Drouin isn't going anywhere because he's french. There's many other reasons but that's the easiest starting point