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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:12 AM ET
i would be shocked if they didn't take kotkaniemi, zadina, or tkachuk
- YuenglingJagr



I don't know. I could see Kotkaniemi at 3 but I really think they need an impact defender since they moved Sergachev.


I think Dobson at 3 or they trade down and take a defender somewhere a little later.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 13 @ 11:15 AM ET
I don't know. I could see Kotkaniemi at 3 but I really think they need an impact defender since they moved Sergachev.


I think Dobson at 3 or they trade down and take a defender somewhere a little later.

- J35Bacher

they need a lot of poop...they're a terrible
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:16 AM ET
I've seen all of these guys play to some degree (on tv, not in person). Some I've only seen clips, some I've seen multiple games. I've also read at least 5 or 6 scouting reports on each player by different sources and from all of the above, I come up with my rankings. I have these guys, and a few more all ahead of Foudy for a variety of reasons, but, for the most part, it just comes down to the guys ahead of him, IMO, either have significantly higher ceilings or a significantly better chance of reaching their ceiling than Foudy does.
- BiggE

fair enough.

I want the home run swing pick. high ceiling. if you miss oh well it happens. They can for lack of a better word, miss on one since the system is looking much better. this is the time to take a gamble on someone imo

as someone said no more laughton, safe picks in the first round.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
question for Bill, or anyone else that has heard rumblings....the Flyers seem to ALWAYS pick a guy in the 12-28 range that jumps out at first as a head scratcher...but later on looks like a solid pick. I wonder who "that" guy is next week...
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
question for Bill, or anyone else that has heard rumblings....the Flyers seem to ALWAYS pick a guy in the 12-28 range that jumps out at first as a head scratcher...but later on looks like a solid pick. I wonder who "that" guy is next week...
- landros 2


Yes. Almost always someone projected as a consensus 2nd rounder. I’m expecting that with pick 19. This year it wouldn’t be a surprise whatsoever I bet teams boards are all over the place. Which is why I can’t wait for it
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 13 @ 11:25 AM ET
Yes. Almost always someone projected as a consensus 2nd rounder. I’m expecting that with pick 19
- Just5



I could see Jonatan Berggren at 19 but I actually see more of a chance of 19 being moved to either get a youngish NHL vet like Sam Bennett to be a 3rd line center or they trade back and get more assets.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
2016-2017 Flyers scored 212 goals and had a 19.5 PP% no playoffs

2017-2018 Flyers scored 249 goals and had a 20.7 PP% made playoffs

Schenn was not missed.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
Holy (frank) at Hoffman et al
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
Mr. BiggE, do you have any special activities planned (special bottle of scotch, animal sacrifice, ritual suicide, etc.) in celebration of the birth of Doug Crossman?
- jmatchett383


As I do every year, I will burn him in effigy
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:30 AM ET
https://www.theplayerstri...oynton-everythings-not-ok
- YuenglingJagr



Im guessing he was talking about Boston as the team that traded him after he came clean.

That was tough to read.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:30 AM ET
2016-2017 Flyers scored 212 goals and had a 19.5 PP% no playoffs

2017-2018 Flyers scored 249 goals and had a 20.7 PP% made playoffs

Schenn was not missed.

- mickel25

in your opinion
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:33 AM ET
2016-2017 Flyers scored 212 goals and had a 19.5 PP% no playoffs

2017-2018 Flyers scored 249 goals and had a 20.7 PP% made playoffs

Schenn was not missed.

- mickel25


Yeah, but what were the hits while leaving your skates/60 with and without him?

Also, I'm sure his boyish good looks were missed on road trips.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
LOL Holy smokes

I don't even want to know

I really, really, really don't want to know

- AllInForFlyers

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
Vyacheslav Butsayev- thought him, 88 , and 17 would have been a great 1 2 3 punch down the middle for a long time.

bill any thoughts why "bootsy" never panned out?

- rinaldo


Just one of those guys who struggled to adapt and didn't truly embrace the role he was asked to play. The talent was there.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:41 AM ET
in your opinion
- rinaldo


In your opinion.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
In your opinion.
- mickel25


BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
Im guessing he was talking about Boston as the team that traded him after he came clean.

That was tough to read.

- MBFlyerfan

Man, how sad. That was a tough read and you know that he’s far from the only ex or current player going through something like this.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:48 AM ET
Man, how sad. That was a tough read and you know that he’s far from the only ex or current player going through something like this.
- BiggE



Kudos to Holmgren and the Flyers for doing the right thing. Even if Boynton only played 10 games for us, they still stepped up.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
i think Hoffman could bring some juice to the Flyers locker room
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
Im guessing he was talking about Boston as the team that traded him after he came clean.

That was tough to read.

- MBFlyerfan


At the tail end of my career, I really, genuinely thought that I was going to die one night during the season. It’s hard to talk about, for sure, but … I had stayed up late doing an obscene amount of coke and things just got out of control. After a while my heart felt like it was going to burst out of my chest. I couldn’t get it to slow down. Nothing I did worked. It was probably the most scared I’ve ever been in my life.

I was playing for the Flyers at the time, and we had a morning skate I needed to be at in a few hours. So it was either go to the hospital and check in without anyone noticing or getting word about what had gone down, and then somehow get my ass to practice in the morning … or tell the trainer what had happened and try to make a change.


I (frank)ing told the trainer.

Somehow I landed on the right call. And that was absolutely huge for me.

The Flyers and Paul Holmgren, who was the GM in Philly at the time, didn’t judge me or make me feel like an outcast when they found out. They sent me to rehab and pledged their support. They looked out for me. Even though I hadn’t been looking out for myself.

And to this day, I honestly believe Paul saved my life back then.


dry island era
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
My life, I’m telling you right now, will not end up being a waste.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
https://www.12up.com/post...reak-their-title-droughts
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 13 @ 12:14 PM ET
https://www.theplayerstri...oynton-everythings-not-ok
- YuenglingJagr


Thanks for link! Excellent read👍

One thing I noticed is the lack of separation between hockey related hits, and pre-existing brain issues. I’ve dealt with family members who have faced similar challenges, so it’s a little closer to home than most people. There are people whom have never been hit on the head that face the same challenges. Sometimes the hits exacerbate pre-existing issues, and sometimes it’s the damage solely from brain trauma, or even the drug and alcohol abuse. Therein lies the distinctions. Until players seek out all the available help, in all three specialties, and the league has all those available resources in place, we will keep seeing more Steve Montador’s or Nick Boynton’s.

What I’m trying to say is, Nick Boynton finally sees the light at the end of the tunnel from a Psychologist, not a neurosurgeon or Rehab Clinic. Every person’s journey is different, and trying to hide it, or simplify it, does a disservice for all those affected.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:23 PM ET
Holy (frank) at Hoffman et al
- Giroux_Is_God

The thing that maybe I’m missing is karlssons wife in the complaint mentioned twice that Hoffmans fiance “uttered” these thing on several occasions. That means someone heard her say it. How are they missing this in every discussion?
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:32 PM ET
Im guessing he was talking about Boston as the team that traded him after he came clean.

That was tough to read.

- MBFlyerfan



There are links to Corey Hirsh and Clint Melarchuk too. Just as tough a read as well.
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