I am gonna repeat myself:
It is difficult to believe

There seems little chance Brady Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes, Wahstrom or Jesperi Kotkaniemi are there when the hawks select, but...two might be...
or ALL MAY BE GONE!


Personally think there are defenseman tumbling out of the top seven, but not Hughes...

I would gladly take a Mikko Koivu type C
- EnzoD

My kinda player, for sure. Interesting you bring up his name as I think he's a good example of the kind of player Wheeler thinks Kotkaniemi's will be (a very very good #2 on a cup team) and Pronman thinks he'll be a very good #1C and the reason Wheeler rates Wahlstrom higher.

Wheeler sees Wahlstrom as having a better chance to be a #1 RW than he does the Fin being a #1C. ........... But few would complain if the Hawks draft the Fin and he ends up a Koivu type, I know I wouldn't. The hope though is the Hawks end up with a difference maker in the top 3 for 10-13 yrs from that #8 pick.

So...killing penalties and winning a faceoff is 10.5mil worthy...but everyone else is garbage, including Kane. Got it.
- PatShart

Don't blame 19 for the contract handed to him by the Bowman twins

Let me know the next time 88 wins a key 3rd period face off or kills a big pk

Better yet let me know when he comes into his own zone to help out the D

99% of you have zero clue that there is more than just scoring points to help win games

Funny reads though......

Carry on....

I am gonna repeat myself:
It is difficult to believe

There seems little chance Brady Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes, Wahstrom or Jesperi Kotkaniemi are there when the hawks select, but...two might be...
or ALL MAY BE GONE!



- wiz1901

Of course there's a chance all may be gone, of course. What's your point? ........ I think the wild card is Vancouver. They are really thin in the system at D and may pass up a Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi as a result. With Boesser, Patterssen and Horvat as young NHL players they may draft for need instead of the best player available.

I would take the big finn can play center and rw plus 6 2 200 thats what the hawks need just my opinion
- Scott1977

Gonna be fun to see this play out, especially if both Kot and Wahlstrom are there at #8. ...........Hawks can't miss on this pick.

I would gladly take a Mikko Koivu type C
- EnzoD

I'd love that, too. High-end ceiling for Kotkaniemi would be like Barkov or Kuznetsov, IMHO. Lofty dream scenario.

There seems little chance Brady Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes, Ollie Wahstrom or Jesperi Kotkaniemi are there when the hawks select, but...two might be...
or ALL MAY BE GONE!


Personally think there are defenseman tumbling out of the top seven, but not Hughes...

Of course there's a chance all may be gone, of course. What's your point? ........ I think the wild card is Vancouver. They are really thin in the system at D and may pass up a Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi as a result. With Boesser, Patterssen and Horvat as young NHL players they may draft for need instead of the best player available.
- Mr Ricochet

My point is I worry if I think I am not going to get something I want.

And those players are just quality dynamic fits for the hawks.

I agree that Vancouver probably comfortable with going dee because of their current young forward group...and Wings probably feel home state Hughes is the guy and as much as I worry they are still in the market for a center even after the Michael Rasmussen selection, this kid, Kotkaniemi, is much more dynamic than him.

And I want Arizona to pass on Brady, but maybe they feel they can't go defense?
I hope they do.

I would take the big finn can play center and rw plus 6 2 200 thats what the hawks need just my opinion seeing whats happening in Ottawa wonder what it would take to get Hoffman?
- Scott1977

If those accusations against Hoffman's significant other are true, then I'd guess that Hawks management wouldn't want anything to do with Hoffman. If she's toxic and he supports her, that's not good for the locker room whether the Senators or other team.

I believe he played with Jack Hughes all year for the USNDP and they dominated as a line.
- EnzoD

Nope

My point was he became more of a threat with Hughes there generating, because Ollie isn't the go get it guy...
Remember I said the same thing about Nick Schmaltz in his draft year when I did an article for JJ saying stay away from selecting him.
Longer term project who is not the sum of his parts. Displays good feet, vision, hands of the high end level, but his work ethic is on the low end. Needs to become an all around team first player, one who helps his team get chances, and not wait for the team around him to provide him with scoring chances. Takes many a shift off, and can disappear in a tight checking game. The question remains will the team that drafts him see the dazzling skill and motor for 60 minutes? Was named to the U.S. World Junior A roster for the Junior A Challenge. Committed to North Dakota University.

I am not in any way trying to compare skills of these two because one is a straight line skating sniper the other a phone booth stickhandler and effortless skater with terrific edging.

I am saying LIKE Schmaltz Wahstrom has to get guys like me from thinking what is in BOLD above.

If he goes to Edmonton, McDavid will make him a 60 goal scorer.

is there a fit with hawks because he is a potential scorer? Absolutely!

More need than filling the system drought at big centre?

Quoting myself on Ollie:
Is able to play all three forward position (although he hasn't been asked to play in the pivot position for a few years now) ....Has been on the radar as a top U.S prospect for some time, so with that has been many views and scouts tend to see him as an established “reliable” prospect, not some new best thing, so he may last a bit longer than expected if teams don’t see him as a top scoring centre prospect. I see him as an NHL left winger who needs to add more edge, finish checks, and provides two way play starting in your top six with decent upside towards a team's top six.

I am gonna repeat myself:
It is difficult to believe

There seems little chance Brady Tkachuk, Quinn Hughes, Wahstrom or Jesperi Kotkaniemi are there when the hawks select, but...two might be...
or ALL MAY BE GONE!


Personally think there are defenseman tumbling out of the top seven, but not Hughes...
- wiz1901

Who do they draft if the Dahlin zadina and schelnkov are the other Taken?
Bouchard or Dobson

Carter Hutton
- wiz1901

Agree 100% Bill!

My point is I worry if I think I am not going to get something I want.

And those players are just quality dynamic fits for the hawks.


- wiz1901

If Wahlstrom and Kotkaniemi are gone by #8 (it could happen) and assuming Dahlin, Svech, Zadina, Tkachuk and Hughes go before 8 too that gives the Hawks Boqvist, Dobson or Bouchard to choose from. ...... Or that possibility might allow the Hawks to move down a couple picks, still get their man of the 3 left and add another #1 pick.

In other words if Wahlstrom and the Fin are gone the Hawks just MIGHT fall into some dumb luck, get the Dman they want and another 1st rounder! Or?

These caps players slamming beers on their parade stage are priceless.

I'm then giggling thinking about McDonough stroking out fearing that Hawk ford auto would pull ad dollars if the Hawks players did something similar.

What a bender these guys are on....sure, seen some guys tear it up, but a whole team for this long giving ZERO craps?
- SteveRain

Do you not remember the 2010 parade? The Hawks player definitely drank on the buses and stage lol. Versteeg said Toews and Kane weren't allowed to be on the same bus the next two times because of how drunk they got together.

Also, didn't Marchand claim the Hawks partied for 16 days after the win and that the Bruins were trying to top it before their management cut them off? Granted, they stuck to bars and clubs instead of fountains but still.

Do you not remember the 2010 parade? The Hawks player definitely drank on the buses and stage lol. Versteeg said Toews and Kane weren't allowed to be on the same bus the next two times because of how drunk they got together.

Also, didn't Marchand claim the Hawks partied for 16 days after the win and that the Bruins were trying to top it before their management cut them off? Granted, they stuck to bars and clubs instead of fountains but still.
- L_B_R

Adam Burrish and Kane went straight from the plane to the Hawk secret second floor of Pony on Belmont and pounded something else too.

Who do they draft if the Dahlin zadina and schelnkov are the other Taken?
Bouchard or Dobson
- Abadseed

I think you mean if only Defenseman are left who will they take?

There are things I don't like about both these guys.

Dobson is away aways but is the hawk team he plays for one he has to carry?

Bouchard may be ready sooner.

Righthanders are valuable and Just because I say Boqvist has a lot to improve you can't underestimate how this younger guy scored on all those Swedish goalies (that was meant as an demeaning of the caliber of goalies, that maybe they made those goals look more dynamic?

Don't blame 19 for the contract handed to him by the Bowman twins

Let me know the next time 88 wins a key 3rd period face off or kills a big pk

Better yet let me know when he comes into his own zone to help out the D

99% of you have zero clue that there is more than just scoring points to help win games

Funny reads though......

Carry on....

- Goalie-33

You got that backwards......

99% of the people here have more than a clue - it is you that is truly clueless!!!!!

But keep going - you are definitely the most laughed at clown here - and too ignorant to get it!!!!!

I think you mean if only Defenseman are left who will they take?

There are things I don't like about both these guys.

Dobson is away aways but is the hawk team he plays for one he has to carry?

Bouchard may be ready sooner.

Righthanders are valuable and Just because I say Boqvist has a lot to improve you can't underestimate how this younger guy scored on all those Swedish goalies (that was meant as an demeaning of the caliber of goalies, that maybe they made those goals look more dynamic?
- wiz1901

Would you go for the more ready-now Bouchard over Boqvist who could be better but will take an additional 2-3 years to be NHL ready?

Normally I’d go for the player with more potential, but given the limited time left in this team’s window it might be better to go the quicker route.

If those accusations against Hoffman's significant other are true, then I'd guess that Hawks management wouldn't want anything to do with Hoffman. If she's toxic and he supports her, that's not good for the locker room whether the Senators or other team.
- AEL_Fox

Fair point only mention need a another top 6 forward I still think the hawks should do full rebuild and this would be the draft to do it its deep. Hawks are not making the playoffs without significant move to bring nhl caliber talent in and Crawford situation is still in doubt so bowman pick a lane one last go at it or tear it down and suck for 2 to 3 years.

I have not. I love Escape IPA and their Sour IPA is delicious but I can only do a couple in one sitting with the sugar in the sour beer. I’ll have to try out Pikes Peak. Breckenridge Brewery’s Bumps and Jumps is also a favorite of mine during a day of skiing.
- EnzoD

Give Pikes Peak a go. Lots of variety and brewed in monument.

I think you mean if only Defenseman are left who will they take?

There are things I don't like about both these guys.

Dobson is away aways but is the hawk team he plays for one he has to carry?

Bouchard may be ready sooner.

Righthanders are valuable and Just because I say Boqvist has a lot to improve you can't underestimate how this younger guy scored on all those Swedish goalies (that was meant as an demeaning of the caliber of goalies, that maybe they made those goals look more dynamic?
- wiz1901

Do you see either Dobson or Bouchard as a Griffin Reinhart 2.0? IDK but it seems to me like there are a ton of negative scouting reports on these two guys and yet they are still ranked around Top 10......I think best case scenario is Wahlstrom given the higher priority in team building given to C and D.

Would you go for the more ready-now Bouchard over Boqvist who could be better but will take an additional 2-3 years to be NHL ready?

Normally I’d go for the player with more potential, but given the limited time left in this team’s window it might be better to go the quicker route.
- DarthKane

I would take a forward

Do you see either Dobson or Bouchard as a Griffin Reinhart 2.0?
- EnzoD

Dobson may end up with a bit more bite, but Evan Bouchard is not Seabrook tough.

Dobson is a big skinny raw tall smart kid/hockey player. He does all the right things and looks to be a pro player even a captain, but no one can predict accurately if he can be the elite level defender with two way impact beyond average

Griffin Reinhart was/is not hockey head smart besides his being unable to move agile enough to learn the back end.
Just cause a big kid looks pretty and dominant in junior doesn't guarantee NHL superiority.
Compare what I wrote about Reinhardt to the other two,
A big man who skates exceptionally well and has turns. Moves laterally with the fluidity of an average size player. Very cool under pressure and a very good ice general whose vision allows him to make the right play. Rarely beaten one on one due to his size. He has a strong shot from the point and is excellent at reading where to go with the puck. Can pass the puck on offense better than most. His bread and butter is his ability to move the puck up ice using his speed and accurate passing. He uses his size to be an aggressive physical force in his defensive zone, making him a more attractive prospect, filled with upside.

How'd all that work out when he met the speed of the NHL game.
That is why Quinn Hughes is valued so high, and even Boqvist because he is all around quick to at very least understands his end enough to attempt to stay with his check.

I would take a forward
- wiz1901

If the Hawks are lucky and draft Wahlstrom at #8, then assuming they keep #27, who do they draft next?

Dellandrea, Sandin or Miller?

Am I the only one that thinks, “get off the Scott Darling is a starting goalie and we need to get him back “bandwagon. You saw the real person playing in front of an average team this year. He is what he is, a good back up goalie worth maybe 900,000 a year. He is no starter. I believe his contract Might have cost Ron Francis his job.I have no problem trading with Carolina, and I would actually like Teuvo back, but no to Scott Darling and that kind of money, if Carolina wants to eat all but 900,000 of that money well then there is a different story but he would come back only as Corey Crawford’s back up.
- wonthecup10

No you're not alone. Really pulling for the kid and he's a nice story with what he's overcome but not as a number 1. Not here anyway.

No you're not alone. Really pulling for the kid and he's a nice story with what he's overcome but not as a number 1. Not here anyway.
- walter34

I posted this elsewhere.....Scott Darling was arguably the worst goalie playing consistently in the NHL last year. So, naturally, Stanley Bowman is interested.