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kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jun 6 @ 2:36 PM ET
Makes AA/Schmaltz your #1 center and no cap savings that is why it is unrealistic (red font)
- ikeane


We don't have a #1 center know either.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jun 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
C'mon man, there's a lot of name calling but let's reel it back a little. We're all adults here..

Regarding Hughes, I feel like his stock is rising and might not be available. That being said, I thought Quinn had said he was going back to Michigan for another year.. is that the case? Seems to be the norm with a lot of the top prospects playing in college.

- Q-stache


Quinn has a really nice interview on Hawks’ site - talks of sitting next to Kane at World Cup and how much he respected Kane as Captain.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jun 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
One of those silly hockey rumor "insider" accounts. Great for entertainment but has pointed out smoke in the past. Figured a little more discussion outside of, to some, future HOFer Michal Kempny wouldn't hurt anybody in the dog days of June. Would anybody accept this trade? I really don't think I would. Fun to ponder though.

"Hockeyy Insiderr


@HkyInsiderr
9m9 minutes ago
More
*BREAKING NHL NEWS*:

IF the Habs offer is rejected by the Oilers they will turn their attention to the Hawks. The Habs are willing to offer Galchenyuk+Pacioretty+Fucale+3rd overall for Toews+8th overall. It would be a HUGE deal. Toews would have to waive NMC as well."

- Trammelt

That sure would be huge ,Don't think Toews would wave . Love Toews but that may be hard to say no to ,3rd overall is a big piece
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Jun 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
I don't even care that he was traded...I care that he was a capable and quality asset completely misused and mismanaged by the coaching staff. His recent quotes say it all about Q + Ulf's failures with Kempny (and Daley).

Time and time again whether by the coaching staff or General Manager, this team has been terribly managed ever since 2015. The list of errors is so long that there is NO surprise that Rocky Wirtz publicly threatened the job security of Bowman and Quenneville. There is no subtlety to Rocky Wirtz's interview earlier this week. He has seen the ugly results and like many on this board, he doesn't view them as acceptable. Bowman hasn't drafted a good NHL Dman in 10 years and the best one he drafted in 2010, Stephen Johns, he gifted to a Division Rival. Bowman has overpaid every single "Core" player with the exception of Hjallmarsson, and the "illegal" contracts of Hossa+Keith. Combining Bowman's lack of drafting, trading and contract negotiation skills with Quenneville's stubbornness and lack of adjustment in system/usage of players and you have a last place team.

As I said months ago, when Stan Bowman is fired, I will stop complaining about the moves he has made to tank this once great team built primarily on the drafting of his predecessors. Until Q is replaced it is more than fair to question the absurdity of Kempny not being able to crack the Top 6D for the worst team in the Central Division, but being a staple at 4D for the likely Cup Champions (same story different year with Trevor Daley).

With better drafting, cap management, contract negotiation, and trading ability, the Hawks SHOULD have had a Detroit-esque run of many many years in the playoffs and ENTERTAINING HOCKEY. They Hawks were terrible to watch and if they didnt have Patrick Kane I probably wouldn't watch 80 games like I did this year. Instead, they nosedived into the basement, with very little reason to expect much different results next season. Same coaching staff, same GM, and essentially the same players (we will see what, if any, "big changes" are made)...why would you expect a miraculous climb back to Cup Contention?

Every person who comes to this site in (frank)ing June is a die-hard Hawks fan. They watch almost every game, and spend thousands on tickets and merchandise. IMO it is very fair and well within their rights to voice grievances towards those who are responsible for icing a garbage product and generally failing at their job duties for 3 seasons.

- EnzoD


This guy is always the best read on this board. He brings the clarity of truthfulness. Pleasant change from the stale propaganda of the apologists who promote the company line that it's ok and even good to accept the dismal performance of mgt.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jun 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
This guy is always the best read on this board. He brings the clarity of truthfulness. Pleasant change from the stale propaganda of the apologists who promote the company line that it's ok and even good to accept the dismal performance of mgt.
- Savoy

You guy's should get a room
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 6 @ 2:56 PM ET
This guy is always the best read on this board. He brings the clarity of truthfulness. Pleasant change from the stale propaganda of the apologists who promote the company line that it's ok and even good to accept the dismal performance of mgt.
- Savoy


Stop attacking people.

Just because some of us may not agree with your "anti company line" of posts doesn't mean we are apologists and swallow the company line propaganda - OR that we accept the dismal performance.

We just prefer to figure out how to get out of this, GIVEN the at least short term fact that Q and Stan are going to be around, and that next year's performance AT LEAST AT THIS POINT depends on them.

Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:03 PM ET
Stop attacking people.

Just because some of us may not agree with your "anti company line" of posts doesn't mean we are apologists and swallow the company line propaganda - OR that we accept the dismal performance.

We just prefer to figure out how to get out of this, GIVEN the at least short term fact that Q and Stan are going to be around, and that next year's performance AT LEAST AT THIS POINT depends on them.

- StLBravesFan


Stop trying to tell other folks what to do and what not to do. If you don't like my posts feel free not to read them but stop trying to push other posters around. I am going to continue to call events as I see them.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
Stop trying to tell other folks what to do and what not to do. If you don't like my posts feel free not to read them but stop trying to push other posters around. I am going to continue to call events as I see them.
- Savoy


Just trying to help you become a mensch, instead of just another putz.

I will give up.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 3:43 PM ET
One of those silly hockey rumor "insider" accounts. Great for entertainment but has pointed out smoke in the past. Figured a little more discussion outside of, to some, future HOFer Michal Kempny wouldn't hurt anybody in the dog days of June. Would anybody accept this trade? I really don't think I would. Fun to ponder though.

"Hockeyy Insiderr


@HkyInsiderr
9m9 minutes ago
More
*BREAKING NHL NEWS*:

IF the Habs offer is rejected by the Oilers they will turn their attention to the Hawks. The Habs are willing to offer Galchenyuk+Pacioretty+Fucale+3rd overall for Toews+8th overall. It would be a HUGE deal. Toews would have to waive NMC as well."

- Trammelt

what would be going back from the oilers?

Bowman and Q aren't going to suddenly change what they do, they should but don't see it happening. Bowman likes a certain type of player and most likely won't deviate from that as long as Bowman adds some pushback players throughout the lineup and more speed and size he can still get his smurf type players he just needs a balance team. Coach Q is going to coach the way he has always coached does he need to adapt yes but more than likely won't hell he the second winning coach in league history. Slow start out of the gates he and bowman should be fired give it to Christmas time then evaluate the team and upper management.

If the hawks can draft anyone of these 6 players it will be a win for the Hawks:

Tkachunk Boqvist Dobson Wahlstrom Veleno Kotkaniemi
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 6 @ 3:52 PM ET
what would be going back from the oilers?
- Scott1977


While I don't know this source, I think this is the Oilers rumor they were sharing.


@HkyInsiderr
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Habs going hard after Klefbom per sources. 3rd overall+Mete for Klefbom+10th overall. Ball is in Oilers court.

and I read it that if the Oilers don't trade Kelfbom they want t go after Toews, but I don't think this makes much sense.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 6 @ 4:01 PM ET
I don't even care that he was traded...I care that he was a capable and quality asset completely misused and mismanaged by the coaching staff. His recent quotes say it all about Q + Ulf's failures with Kempny (and Daley).

Time and time again whether by the coaching staff or General Manager, this team has been terribly managed ever since 2015. The list of errors is so long that there is NO surprise that Rocky Wirtz publicly threatened the job security of Bowman and Quenneville. There is no subtlety to Rocky Wirtz's interview earlier this week. He has seen the ugly results and like many on this board, he doesn't view them as acceptable. Bowman hasn't drafted a good NHL Dman in 10 years and the best one he drafted in 2010, Stephen Johns, he gifted to a Division Rival. Bowman has overpaid every single "Core" player with the exception of Hjallmarsson, and the "illegal" contracts of Hossa+Keith. Combining Bowman's lack of drafting, trading and contract negotiation skills with Quenneville's stubbornness and lack of adjustment in system/usage of players and you have a last place team.

As I said months ago, when Stan Bowman is fired, I will stop complaining about the moves he has made to tank this once great team built primarily on the drafting of his predecessors. Until Q is replaced it is more than fair to question the absurdity of Kempny not being able to crack the Top 6D for the worst team in the Central Division, but being a staple at 4D for the likely Cup Champions (same story different year with Trevor Daley).

With better drafting, cap management, contract negotiation, and trading ability, the Hawks SHOULD have had a Detroit-esque run of many many years in the playoffs and ENTERTAINING HOCKEY. They Hawks were terrible to watch and if they didnt have Patrick Kane I probably wouldn't watch 80 games like I did this year. Instead, they nosedived into the basement, with very little reason to expect much different results next season. Same coaching staff, same GM, and essentially the same players (we will see what, if any, "big changes" are made)...why would you expect a miraculous climb back to Cup Contention?

Every person who comes to this site in (frank)ing June is a die-hard Hawks fan. They watch almost every game, and spend thousands on tickets and merchandise. IMO it is very fair and well within their rights to voice grievances towards those who are responsible for icing a garbage product and generally failing at their job duties for 3 seasons.

- EnzoD


The only thing I’d question here is the inclusion of Ulf, he had nothing to do with the Daley situation and I really question whether he had much if any say on how the defensive system/players were used this past season.

I really don’t think Q did much in the way of delegation.
BMWChiFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 04.12.2016

Jun 6 @ 4:07 PM ET
I don't even care that he was traded...I care that he was a capable and quality asset completely misused and mismanaged by the coaching staff. His recent quotes say it all about Q + Ulf's failures with Kempny (and Daley).

Time and time again whether by the coaching staff or General Manager, this team has been terribly managed ever since 2015. The list of errors is so long that there is NO surprise that Rocky Wirtz publicly threatened the job security of Bowman and Quenneville. There is no subtlety to Rocky Wirtz's interview earlier this week. He has seen the ugly results and like many on this board, he doesn't view them as acceptable. Bowman hasn't drafted a good NHL Dman in 10 years and the best one he drafted in 2010, Stephen Johns, he gifted to a Division Rival. Bowman has overpaid every single "Core" player with the exception of Hjallmarsson, and the "illegal" contracts of Hossa+Keith. Combining Bowman's lack of drafting, trading and contract negotiation skills with Quenneville's stubbornness and lack of adjustment in system/usage of players and you have a last place team.

As I said months ago, when Stan Bowman is fired, I will stop complaining about the moves he has made to tank this once great team built primarily on the drafting of his predecessors. Until Q is replaced it is more than fair to question the absurdity of Kempny not being able to crack the Top 6D for the worst team in the Central Division, but being a staple at 4D for the likely Cup Champions (same story different year with Trevor Daley).

With better drafting, cap management, contract negotiation, and trading ability, the Hawks SHOULD have had a Detroit-esque run of many many years in the playoffs and ENTERTAINING HOCKEY. They Hawks were terrible to watch and if they didnt have Patrick Kane I probably wouldn't watch 80 games like I did this year. Instead, they nosedived into the basement, with very little reason to expect much different results next season. Same coaching staff, same GM, and essentially the same players (we will see what, if any, "big changes" are made)...why would you expect a miraculous climb back to Cup Contention?

Every person who comes to this site in (frank)ing June is a die-hard Hawks fan. They watch almost every game, and spend thousands on tickets and merchandise. IMO it is very fair and well within their rights to voice grievances towards those who are responsible for icing a garbage product and generally failing at their job duties for 3 seasons.

- EnzoD


A very accurate, well-written and truthful post, Enzo. The Hawks failures the past three years and bottoming out last year have definitely gotten Rocky's attention.

Q's current contract is yet another that has negatively impacted the Hawks, as Q, with guaranteed big dollars and term, became even more unwilling to adjust his "system" and work with the GM's acquisitions. Jeremy Colliton is highly respected for the work he did in Sweden and now Rockford. IMO he will be the Hawks next coach, and the only question is when. Like many on this board, I say the sooner the better.

Stanbo is a team player / consensus guy, which is the characteristic that might save his job now that his father (who was a great coach but NOT a great GM) has aged, largely faded from the scene, and hopefully is no longer McD's Yoda. Moreover, Stanbo will point to Q as the reason his moves (such as Kempny, Daley, Murphy, Vermette) weren't more successful, and the success of those players elsewhere will help validate his argument. Nonetheless, his many bad contracts and trades can't be ignored, so he too should be on shaky ground, and apparently is per Rocky's recent statement.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 6 @ 4:07 PM ET
While I don't know this source, I think this is the Oilers rumor they were sharing.


@HkyInsiderr
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Habs going hard after Klefbom per sources. 3rd overall+Mete for Klefbom+10th overall. Ball is in Oilers court.

and I read it that if the Oilers don't trade Kelfbom they want t go after Toews, but I don't think this makes much sense.

- breadbag


better trade for both teams is the hawks and montreal both teams get what they want but don't see Towes waiving his NMT plus who is filling his spot.

Here is a trade proposal or two your opinion is welcome:
Hawks trades
27th a 3rd Hossa Forsling duclair/hino

Carolina Trades
Darling and Faulk

Hawks trades
Crawford

N.Y.Islanders trades
11th pick
Trammelt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.11.2012

Jun 6 @ 4:09 PM ET
While I don't know this source, I think this is the Oilers rumor they were sharing.


@HkyInsiderr
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Habs going hard after Klefbom per sources. 3rd overall+Mete for Klefbom+10th overall. Ball is in Oilers court.

and I read it that if the Oilers don't trade Kelfbom they want t go after Toews, but I don't think this makes much sense.

- breadbag


The way i interpreted it, and i could be wrong, but i believe the thinking is if MTL cant pry a young Dman with the 3rd pick (+Mete), they will then turn and use that 3rd pick, along with a much bigger package, to get Toews.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 6 @ 4:24 PM ET


The way i interpreted it, and i could be wrong, but i believe the thinking is if MTL cant pry a young Dman with the 3rd pick (+Mete), they will then turn and use that 3rd pick, along with a much bigger package, to get Toews.

- Trammelt



Im just curious as to why Toews has popped up in multiple trade rumors this off season. Is it poo flinging or is someone really talking behind closed doors on possible deals???
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 6 @ 4:28 PM ET
Im just curious as to why Toews has popped up in multiple trade rumors this off season. Is it poo flinging or is someone really talking behind closed doors on possible deals???
- z1990z


Have any of those rumors come from a reliable source? I only recall the rumors from questionable sources.
HawksHype
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jun 6 @ 4:29 PM ET
Make this happen...

Offer sheet Trouba
Trade #27 pick, Forsberg, Gus for Faulk
Package AA+ to move
Draft Wahlstrom
Sign Hutton to backup Crow

......

I tried in NHL18, didnt work
Trammelt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.11.2012

Jun 6 @ 5:04 PM ET
Make this happen...

Offer sheet Trouba
Trade #27 pick, Forsberg, Gus for Faulk
Package AA+ to move
Draft Wahlstrom
Sign Hutton to backup Crow

......

I tried in NHL18, didnt work

- HawksHype



Try trading Ryan Reaves for back to back First round picks!
Trammelt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.11.2012

Jun 6 @ 5:10 PM ET
Im just curious as to why Toews has popped up in multiple trade rumors this off season. Is it poo flinging or is someone really talking behind closed doors on possible deals???
- z1990z


My guess is a mixture of both. Although the clouds of Salary cap hell have somewhat parted this offseason, the fact of the matter is his contract, and inability to produce at its level, has put a handicap on the ability to improve this team over the last few years. He knows it, the players know it, and management knows it. No reason to not at least entertain offers. Now - if i were a to make a bet, Toews never gets moved. As far as i'm concerned - no real reliable source has come out with anything, at least PUBLICLY. But no rational Blackhawks fan would want to see him traded, so there's at least a chance the smoke may signal a fire. As you put it, behind closed doors.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Jun 6 @ 5:17 PM ET
Make this happen...

Offer sheet Trouba
Trade #27 pick, Forsberg, Gus for Faulk
Package AA+ to move
Draft Wahlstrom
Sign Hutton to backup Crow

......

I tried in NHL18, didnt work

- HawksHype


Sign Hutton to be the #1.

I think Crow is done in Chicago, boys.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
Reel it back a lot, this is your warning, one and only.

Thanks for understanding.

- Makita


Oh please, this @ssclown has been posting nonsense like this for more than a year, and your people let him continue.

He should have been permanently banned months ago, but for some reason, you just don't have the stones to do it.

He started attacking responders here, and has now elevated to attacking the blogger. He is daring you to remove him. What are you waiting for??????
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 6 @ 6:00 PM ET
Reel it back a lot, this is your warning, one and only.

Thanks for understanding.

- Makita


THANK YOU!!!
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 6 @ 6:04 PM ET
better trade for both teams is the hawks and montreal both teams get what they want but don't see Towes waiving his NMT plus who is filling his spot.

Here is a trade proposal or two your opinion is welcome:
Hawks trades
27th a 3rd Hossa Forsling duclair/hino

Carolina Trades
Darling and Faulk

Hawks trades
Crawford

N.Y.Islanders trades
11th pick

- Scott1977

The Carolina Hurricanes Do Not Want The Hossa Contract for (frank)s sake.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 6 @ 6:09 PM ET
Looking forward.....if there ever was a match-up of teams that could see a 3-1 series lead in the Cup Finals be overcome, you have to think it would be Washington (serial choke artists) and Vegas (the unbelievable underdogs). I think Vegas wins at home tonight and Washington BETTER win game 6 at home or Vegas could do the improbable and come back to win it all.


For the Hawks I think you take Wahlstrom/Tzchuck at forward if available or the top rated D there at 8 whether its Hughes, Boquist, Bouchard or Dobson. The Hawks have holes everywhere, and it seems like a reach for any of the Centers at 8 based on all the pre-draft rankings.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
The Carolina Hurricanes Do Not Want The Hossa Contract for (frank)s sake.
- BINGO!


I love it when fans speak for an organization as if their opinion is fact on what will or won't happen. Is it likely Carolina takes Hossa's contract? Odds are in your favor it wont happen. But lets say it like it is...YOU don't want the Hossa contract.. but that doesn't mean there isn't a mutually beneficial trade option between the clubs that results in Carolina taking on Hossa's $1mil in real salary contract.
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