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EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

May 23 @ 2:31 PM ET
The better way of f scribinh Tzachuk is that while he is not AS high end skill as others rated in the top eight.choices, nonetheless, he possess some skill and desire which makes hm like a best,vhadvto stop.Perfect complement on another line, not on your Kane line. How about Kane with Schmaultz, Tzachuchbeith Toews.

The bigger picture is how to establish a defense which is good enough to lead to competitive games and a sense that we can win..One dman joining before free agency means less pressure to add an.afgordsble second dman. Would likely be one our first round choices surrendered.

Loosing a draft choice due to such bad need is a black eye, a red flag as to Bowman's management. Your lifeblood most of the time is the draft. You are foolish to trade hyhly balud choice whom could become future core.

Maybe Stan can convince another GM to swap their more "steady eddie" for our offensive dman

- jhawk59


At worst, Brady Tzchuck is a Tom Wilson type (Still effective playing top line minutes but maybe doesn't score as much as you'd like). At best he is a 30 goal and 70 point Power Forward. I don't think you can go wrong with Wahlstrom or Tzchuck tbh.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

May 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
Have you watched a single clip of Tkachuk? You just assume he's a meathead grinder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEvEvPpcfYQ#t=22s

The dude is ranked ahead of all your 'top end skill' guys like Kotkaniemi, Veleno, Wahlstrom for a reason. His brother has high end skill, his dad had major high end skill.

I'm just shocked that you're sticking to this BS 'not high end skill' narrative. You're simply wrong.

- ObeseOprah


In your own video you’ll notice that there is not very much from BU. He was very challenged at this level scoring only 8 goals in 40 games. Yes he was a Freshman but this indicates that he has some serious developing to do. That is my point - you cannot draft someone you are not sure will develop. You hope he will but what if he doesn’t? There may be teams who can chance it - but we are talking about the Hawks who simply cannot afford to waste this pick.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
You don’t have to listen to me. Read hockey people who are rating him. I don’t want to draft a player at 8 that gets described as “polarizing”. Hawks cannot afford to waste this draft choice. Hockey people say there is risk in drafting such a player. Lots of hockey people are critical of his skating and his lack of high end skill. I am not alone. He is getting placed high because of his size and to some degree his pedigree with the hope he will be able to score. Hawks cannot afford to draft someone at 8 where hope is involved. Can’t teach high end skill.

For a top draft pick if I am comparing 2 players I look at high end skill and high end skating first. I don’t even look at players lacking in these areas. If the players are equal here, size and physicality can become issues - you take the bigger, tougher player. However, you NEVER start with size and work backwards and hope the rest takes care of itself. Too risky. Tkachuk may be a 3rd or 4th line player - the Hawks can’t risk him at 8.

- Z3Hawk


Fair points, skating is the most important thing to look at first. However Tavares overcame his skating issues, although he's an exception.

From what I've seen he looks very appealing. I can already hear Milbury and Jones talking about him on NBC saying he's 'got a nose for a net' and 'stirs it up every play'. I think he'll have a very positive impact on whatever team picks him.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 23 @ 3:00 PM ET
Do you, or anyone, know specifics on these bonuses? Points? Goals? Games Played?
- EnzoD


I've looked at a few places, and unfortunately haven't been able to find any specifics.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
In your own video you’ll notice that there is not very much from BU. He was very challenged at this level scoring only 8 goals in 40 games. Yes he was a Freshman but this indicates that he has some serious developing to do. That is my point - you cannot draft someone you are not sure will develop. You hope he will but what if he doesn’t? There may be teams who can chance it - but we are talking about the Hawks who simply cannot afford to waste this pick.
- Z3Hawk


I also agree that we can't waste this pick, it's arguably the most important pick we've had in ten years.

You want to pick the guy who's going to be the heir apparent to 'Toews, Kane, Keith'. Detroit had heir apparents with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall after having Yzerman, Federov, Lidstrom & co. for so long.

Unfortunately the most impactful guys (Dahlin, Svech, Zadina) are out of reach, but hopefully we can get a Middlestadt (also went 8th last year). Middlestadt looks like an absolute steal in hindsight.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
At worst, Brady Tzchuck is a Tom Wilson type (Still effective playing top line minutes but maybe doesn't score as much as you'd like). At best he is a 30 goal and 70 point Power Forward. I don't think you can go wrong with Wahlstrom or Tzchuck tbh.
- EnzoD


Isn't this what Saad was/is supposed to be? I'm not saying we don't need more like this, but Saad at his best brought all of this. He doesn't hit quite as much, but he is hard to knock off the puck, will go to the net and has enough talent to score somewhere between 20-30 goals, and can play solid D.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

May 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
Isn't this what Saad was/is supposed to be? I'm not saying we don't need more like this, but Saad at his best brought all of this. He doesn't hit quite as much, but he is hard to knock off the puck, will go to the net and has enough talent to score somewhere between 20-30 goals, and can play solid D.
- Chunk


Yep and having a power scoring winger that gets to the dirty areas on both lines 1+2 would be a great complement to the small, skill guys in Debrincat, Schmaltz and Kaner. I still think Bowman goes D at 8 based on organizational need. Should be interesting to see if anyone 4-7 reaches on a center to let someone drop to the Hawks at 8
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
In your own video you’ll notice that there is not very much from BU. He was very challenged at this level scoring only 8 goals in 40 games. Yes he was a Freshman but this indicates that he has some serious developing to do. That is my point - you cannot draft someone you are not sure will develop. You hope he will but what if he doesn’t? There may be teams who can chance it - but we are talking about the Hawks who simply cannot afford to waste i have this pick.
- Z3Hawk


I have to be sure about Tzachuk. My trusted time proven scouts (plural) have to be sure. Wiz sure liked him. In heatbeat you love to have two close picks but you are not choosing as outstanding talent, for example, with the NYI double whammy at is it slots 10 & 12.

I fully expect Bowman to trade one of the picks. I am on record as choosing the skill fireard or dman #8 and moving up to take Samuelson over Merkely around #20. I might be persuaded to grab Merleky being in round one than I would have with DeBrincat in round two. I really like the scouting report of wiz Blackhawk #27 Dellandra

Can I please have each of these (I am not overly greedy; let the others go where they may): at #8 Boqvist, Walstrom I like Walstrom talent better although you draft a dman if an earlier pick had fallen; and I want both Merkely and Samuelson.

Could we trade our #8 and our third round for the NYI choices, take Dobson and Merkely. Then offer our #27 plus our prospect (Forsling) to move up for Samuelson. Yes high price to pay for Samuelson but how often is his type available. I don't think he needs to develop much. I know he is committed to Western Michigan. Kid a nearly one million dollar contract waits when you go pro.

Samuelson, Carlson, Gilbert, Hillman the group for three the tougher, more stay at home dmen spots.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 23 @ 3:43 PM ET
I also agree that we can't waste this pick, it's arguably the most important pick we've had in ten years.

You want to pick the guy who's going to be the heir apparent to 'Toews, Kane, Keith'. Detroit had heir apparents with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall after having Yzerman, Federov, Lidstrom & co. for so long.

Unfortunately the most impactful guys (Dahlin, Svech, Zadina) are out of reach, but hopefully we can get a Middlestadt (also went 8th last year). Middlestadt looks like an absolute steal in hindsight.

- ObeseOprah

FWIW, the Hockey News came out with its annual Future Watch edition in April and they rank Casey Mittelstadt as the #1 prospect in the NHL. Elias Pettersson is #2.

I don't have the magazine with me at work, but I can share other tidbits from Future Watch later tonight once I get home. I do remember THN had a page per team and listed who they think is each team's top 10 prospects. For the Hawks:

1. Jokiharju
2. Sikura
3. Mitchell
4. Krys
5. Soderlund
6. Kayumov
7. Carlsson
8. Altybarmakyan
9. Ejdsell
10. Galvas

There was some intriguing descriptions for each that some of you may find interesting.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

May 23 @ 3:43 PM ET
I have to be sure about Tzachuk. My trusted time proven scouts (plural) have to be sure. Wiz sure liked him. In heatbeat you love to have two close picks but you are not choosing as outstanding talent, for example, with the NYI double whammy at is it slots 10 & 12.

I fully expect Bowman to trade one of the picks. I am on record as choosing the skill fireard or dman #8 and moving up to take Samuelson over Merkely around #20. I might be persuaded to grab Merleky being in round one than I would have with DeBrincat in round two. I really like the scouting report of wiz Blackhawk #27 Dellandra

Can I please have each of these (I am not overly greedy; let the others go where they may): at #8 Boqvist, Walstrom I like Walstrom talent better although you draft a dman if an earlier pick had fallen; and I want both Merkely and Samuelson.

Could we trade our #8 and our third round for the NYI choices, take Dobson and Merkely. Then offer our #27 plus our prospect (Forsling) to move up for Samuelson. Yes high price to pay for Samuelson but how often is his type available. I don't think he needs to develop much. I know he is committed to Western Michigan. Kid a nearly one million dollar contract waits when you go pro.

Samuelson, Carlson, Gilbert, Hillman the group for three the tougher, more stay at home dmen spots.

- jhawk59

I doubt NYI gives up 11 and 12 for 8 and a 3rd.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 23 @ 3:45 PM ET
Yep and having a power scoring winger that gets to the dirty areas on both lines 1+2 would be a great complement to the small, skill guys in Debrincat, Schmaltz and Kaner. I still think Bowman goes D at 8 based on organizational need. Should be interesting to see if anyone 4-7 reaches on a center to let someone drop to the Hawks at 8
- EnzoD

Agree, it would be ideal if the top 2 lines each had a physical power forward. While Saad could be described as a power forward, I consider him more of a finesse and skill power forward rather than one who is physical and tough as nails like a Simmonds or Wilson or even Perry (as much as I can't stand the guy).
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 23 @ 3:56 PM ET
I doubt NYI gives up 11 and 12 for 8 and a 3rd.
- tvetter[/quote

I was just musing Tavarez is Lamorello's first catch then he reals in a linemeatte in Tzachuk

You're right not enough for both choices. But NYI are loosing one or two dmen and they capture a dman prospect through this trade.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

May 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
If the Hawks pick anyone of these 6 players at 8 they won't be disappointed:

Forwards Tkachuck Wahlstrom Velno

Defenseman Boqvist Dobson Bouchard

Then with the 27th pick try trade for nhl player or players to a team looking to get back into the first round.

Example Winnipeg I stated once before 27th pick for Lowery and chariot something like that. I know they have a lot of cap space but Laine wheeler conner copp armia lowery trouba myers Morrissey all have to be signed this year or next year Winnipeg might do that trade to help down the line. Read Faulk and skinner are available what do the hawks have to offer in trade for one those players. What would the trades look like if there is fit between both teams. One player I would be interested in and comes with big contract is Jordan Staal he is 29 with5 years left at 6 million but him behind Towes would be a one two punch and help out on FACEOFFS. Smaltz would then become your 3rd line center or 2nd line lw now depth down the middle take pressure off of Towes.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 23 @ 4:04 PM ET
FWIW, the Hockey News came out with its annual Future Watch edition in April and they rank Casey Mittelstadt as the #1 prospect in the NHL. Elias Pettersson is #2.

I don't have the magazine with me at work, but I can share other tidbits from Future Watch later tonight once I get home. I do remember THN had a page per team and listed who they think is each team's top 10 prospects. For the Hawks:

1. Jokiharju
2. Sikura
3. Mitchell
4. Krys
5. Soderlund
6. Kayumov
7. Carlsson
8. Altybarmakyan
9. Ejdsell
10. Galvas

There was some intriguing descriptions for each that some of you may find interesting.

- AEL_Fox


Carlsson should switch with Krys. Not on the list but signed: Kahun, Gilbert, Hillman, Tuulola, I think Sikura brother and Louis will get an NHL opportunity but could be couple years. Conspiculously absent on the list is Shulanov. Don't,t laugh: what if Galvas proved to be as good as any of them
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
If the Hawks pick anyone of these 6 players at 8 they won't be disappointed:

Forwards Tkachuck Wahlstrom Velno

Defenseman Boqvist Dobson Bouchard

Then with the 27th pick try trade for nhl player or players to a team looking to get back into the first round.

Example Winnipeg I stated once before 27th pick for Lowery and chariot something like that. I know they have a lot of cap space but Laine wheeler conner copp armia lowery trouba myers Morrissey all have to be signed this year or next year Winnipeg might do that trade to help down the line. Read Faulk and skinner are available what do the hawks have to offer in trade for one those players. What would the trades look like if there is fit between both teams. One player I would be interested in and comes with big contract is Jordan Staal he is 29 with5 years left at 6 million but him behind Towes would be a one two punch and help out on FACEOFFS. Smaltz would then become your 3rd line center or 2nd line lw now depth down the middle take pressure off of Towes.

- Scott1977


Also teams saw the type of players Vegas got so expect a lot of bargain dealing early
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 23 @ 4:21 PM ET
Carlsson should switch with Krys. Not on the list but signed: Kahun, Gilbert, Hillman, Tuulola, I think Sikura brother and Louis will get an NHL opportunity but could be couple years. Conspiculously absent on the list is Shulanov. Don't,t laugh: what if Galvas proved to be as good as any of them
- jhawk59

The one thing I remember about the THN description of Galvas, which surprised me in a good way, is that he is a physical defender despite his size (listed at 5'11" 165 pounds). I'll take any defender who is physical and good in his own end.

Something similar was said about Soderlund, that he loves to crash the net and go to the dirty areas all over the ice. He was even quoted as saying something like he does not back down from the physical stuff just because he's smaller than everyone else (5'9" 165 pounds).

He could very well be a poor man's Arvidsson or even his equal if he hits full potential. I would imagine, though, that even Predators fans were surprised to see Arvidsson blossom into the top-6 winger that he is today.
stonefire
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Prague
Joined: 10.22.2006

May 23 @ 4:27 PM ET
Guys, I am curious, how old are you that you don't know how to spell Tkachuk correctly? Keith Tkachuk used to be a star… (and he even signed with Chicago in the mid-90s).
wonthecup10
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Joined: 02.05.2008

May 23 @ 4:28 PM ET
Have you watched a single clip of Tkachuk? You just assume he's a meathead grinder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEvEvPpcfYQ#t=22s

The dude is ranked ahead of all your 'top end skill' guys like Kotkaniemi, Veleno, Wahlstrom for a reason. His brother has high end skill, his dad had major high end skill.

I'm just shocked that you're sticking to this BS 'not high end skill' narrative. You're simply wrong.

- ObeseOprah



Totally agree with you 100%!, No matter what people post on these boards the Blackhawk hierarchy will make the choice they see fit, and I’m pretty sure that that kid is high on their radar also. If you watch what wins Stanley cups, it’s not pretty goals, it’s hard work downright getting dirty in the trenches, and the current make up of this Blackhawk team has mostly pansy ass ballerinas except for a couple of players that are willing to pay the price. This current team is NOT the team that won the three Stanley cups. I personally hope the Blackhawks draft Brady Tkachuk also. Enough of the bull crap, hockey is a contact and sometimes downright get dirty And paid the price type of sport.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
Guys, I am curious, how old are you that you don't know how to spell Tkachuk correctly? Keith Tkachuk used to be a star… (and he even signed with Chicago in the mid-90s).
- stonefire

I don't think it's an age thing but more so people just not generally good at spelling or doing things on a smart phone or other device with auto complete. People even misspell names of Blackawk player like Toews (Towes), Saad (Sadd), Keith (Kieth), Seabrook (Seabrooke), etc.

It gets worse when you get to the European players.

And poor Sikura brothers. I've seen that name spelled 4-5 different ways.

Generally not a big deal to me since I at least know what player they are referring to.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

May 23 @ 4:55 PM ET
Guys, I am curious, how old are you that you don't know how to spell Tkachuk correctly? Keith Tkachuk used to be a star… (and he even signed with Chicago in the mid-90s).
- stonefire

Heck, I'm old enough to remember Walt Tkachuk!
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

May 23 @ 4:58 PM ET
Free Agents to think about

D:
Jack Johnson
Ian Cole

Back Up Goalie:
Cam Ward
Carter Hutton

- Colbyboy


I think John Moore is a possibility. His name has come up in the past. LD. 27 y/o.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 23 @ 5:01 PM ET
Guys, I am curious, how old are you that you don't know how to spell Tkachuk correctly? Keith Tkachuk used to be a star… (and he even signed with Chicago in the mid-90s).
- stonefire


When did Tkachuk sign with the Hawks?

Jets/Yotes, Blues, and Thrashers
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 23 @ 5:04 PM ET
Heck, I'm old enough to remember Walt Tkachuk!
- 35Tony0


I'm old enough to remember Walt Moryn (he was always "due"....).
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

May 23 @ 5:09 PM ET
I don't think it's an age thing but more so people just not generally good at spelling or doing things on a smart phone or other device with auto complete. People even misspell names of Blackawk player like Toews (Towes), Saad (Sadd), Keith (Kieth), Seabrook (Seabrooke), etc.

It gets worse when you get to the European players.

And poor Sikura brothers. I've seen that name spelled 4-5 different ways.

Generally not a big deal to me since I at least know what player they are referring to.

- AEL_Fox


And people always forget about Sinkula too!
Rayipsd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Naperville, IL
Joined: 02.16.2018

May 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
With the 8th pic I believe Stan will trade down with either NYI or Philly , get a second round pick and with he trade down pick he will pick Bode Wilde. He draft a player personally knows ahead of someone he does not. Example Schmaltz, Hartman, Vinne and Louis. All he knew these player from the Mission. I cant wait for the draft and see what happens.
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