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jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 22 @ 3:04 PM ET
Wow, whom did they have left to sign?

Mitchell, Galvas (the Czech guy), Krys.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 22 @ 3:14 PM ET
Wow, whom did they have left to sign?

Mitchell, Galvas (the Czech guy), Krys.

- jhawk59


There's a few out there. Jokiharju is still unsigned.

And some overseas like the Russian AA and Kayumov.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

May 22 @ 3:30 PM ET
As far as Hossa's contract is concerned, capfriendly has AZ at $52M with 17 players signed. If the cap goes up to $80M, the floor would be $60M, right? That means they have to spend $8M for 5-6 players. I doubt they would need Hossa to reach that, but if management wants to spend less real money, I guess it would be possible. If that is the case, it shouldn't cost the Hawks much.

ETA...I'm not sure about this, but I think AZ was the only team below $60M last year.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

May 22 @ 3:35 PM ET
There's a few out there. Jokiharju is still unsigned.

And some overseas like the Russian AA and Kayumov.

- Justin Lowe


Any chance Stan tries to bring Shalunov over from Russia?
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 22 @ 3:43 PM ET
There's a few out there. Jokiharju is still unsigned.

And some overseas like the Russian AA and Kayumov.

- Justin Lowe

I was thinking the same thing as far as signing Hawk draft picks: best guess are Jokiharju and at least one of the Russians (Altybarmakyan, Kayumov, and/or Shalunov).

Krys needs to stay in college for at least one more year, if not all 4 years, but I see him signing a year from now once junior year ends like Hillman and Gilbert did. Same with Mitchell who is a year younger than Krys.

IMHO, Barratt is the most intriguing college forward prospect. He's been compared to Burish and even Shaw. We could use a bottom-6 agitator like that again but he's still many years away.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 22 @ 3:44 PM ET
Nope, Buff has to be nearing that cliff as well.
- riozzo

What about Darling?

And I'm with Darth: Frolik would be cool at the right price tag.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 22 @ 3:50 PM ET
Same can be said for Forsberg. I think he can have a good chance to develop with time down in Rockford. As a backup to Crow, or a starter in the NHL, I'm not sold. I think time in the AHL can help him develop or increase his trade value.

But then reverse side, like you said, I think Delia needs to start too. And who knows the progression that the new signee is going to take. Do you sign a for sure backup to Crow and get rid of Forsberg now?

- HawksHype

I agree, Delia needs to getting starting experience in Rockford for at least a full season and ideally two.

If Crawford is not 100% and will miss a huge part of next season (and worst case scenario all season and has to go on LTIR), I would keep Forsberg as the backup and find a way to trade for Darling. UFA goalie options may be okay for a one-year stop gap like Bernier. It all hinges on Crawford's long-term health.

And if Crawford is ready to go with no relapse in whatever is ailing him, I would still retain Forsberg as the backup. Forsberg needs proper experience to play NHL backup, not get thrust into the emergency starter role.

FWIW, Wiz on Draftsite has the Hawks drafting 3 goalies in June and surprisingly only one defenseman (4th round). He has the Hawks taking Kotkaniemi and Dellandrea at 8th and 27th.

https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/chicago/75/
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 22 @ 3:58 PM ET
To everyone crapping on Tkachuk, please note that there is not one source saying he's holding out all through college until he hits FA. Please link if you have a shred of evidence.

Also, the guy is top 8 at least on almost every single scouting board out there. He's better than Wahlstrom, Farabee, Hayton, Veleno, Kaut, Kotkaniemi, etc... at least according to every scout out there.

From my understanding, he's better than his brother Matthew. His brother Matthew is a very good NHL player (not great, but very good) just 2 years into his NHL career. Brady will bring a level of agitation and rat-ness that none of these other prospects have been noted to have. Plus he's flat out talented.

If Tkachuk is there at 8, that means a couple of teams are drafting for need instead of best-player-available. Unless one of Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, or Boqvist is still available... I'm taking Tkachuk and laughing all the way to the bank.

Yes he's doing another year at Boston, but his coach just quit, and his brother went right into the NHL. This kid is likely chomping at the bit to prove himself. If we have to wait til March to get him... tough bananas. Best player available, every time. Difference between a Jordan Staal and a Jonathan Toews.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 22 @ 4:00 PM ET
I was thinking the same thing as far as signing Hawk draft picks: best guess are Jokiharju and at least one of the Russians (Altybarmakyan, Kayumov, and/or Shalunov).

Krys needs to stay in college for at least one more year, if not all 4 years, but I see him signing a year from now once junior year ends like Hillman and Gilbert did. Same with Mitchell who is a year younger than Krys.

IMHO, Barratt is the most intriguing college forward prospect. He's been compared to a Burish and even Shaw. We could use a bottom-6 agitator like that again but he's still many years away.

- AEL_Fox


I was wondering about how much AHL Barrett needs. Although Penn State sounds like it had lousy competition, that is not really true. We need players like a Barrett, a Hillman and or Gilbert, maybe Sikura's brother - humble players who know they will never be stars -to drive the bottom lned and lift some top line playts ho sometimes play lme prima Donna's. I wish the newspapers could take a poll and leave a big screaming headline that Bowman needs to trade maybe even a top line finedd player straight up for a physical bruising top six player. You cannot compete in playing, Bowman, if you don't get more push back. Do you realize your job might hinge on that?

Btw who really believe Q new mantra is going to work. For how long. Does he dress newbies in bottom six who will do as he says. I ant W out of town and Bowman is on the clock. Let's see how smart he is and what he can accomplish. If he traf d down for lesser prospects I wish him tar and featheted (figuratively) out of town.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

May 22 @ 4:07 PM ET
I'm not advocating this, but for whom would you trade the #8 pick straight up? Anyone?


I wouldn't, especially in this draft, but you could potentially get a player that makes an immediate impact.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 22 @ 4:09 PM ET
To everyone crapping on Tkachuk, please note that there is not one source saying he's holding out all through college until he hits FA. Please link if you have a shred of evidence.

Also, the guy is top 8 at least on almost every single scouting board out there. He's better than Wahlstrom, Farabee, Hayton, Veleno, Kaut, Kotkaniemi, etc... at least according to every scout out there.

From my understanding, he's better than his brother Matthew. His brother Matthew is a very good NHL player (not great, but very good) just 2 years into his NHL career. Brady will bring a level of agitation and rat-ness that none of these other prospects have been noted to have. Plus he's flat out talented.

If Tkachuk is there at 8, that means a couple of teams are drafting for need instead of best-player-available. Unless one of Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, or Boqvist is still available... I'm taking Tkachuk and laughing all the way to the bank.

Yes he's doing another year at Boston, but his coach just quit, and his brother went right into the NHL. This kid is likely chomping at the bit to prove himself. If we have to wait til March to get him... tough bananas. Best player available, every time. Difference between a Jordan Staal and a Jonathan Toews.

- ObeseOprah


You have a strong case and I personally would hope our own defense prospects are good enough. We need this kind of player. We need a Samuelson, too, if we move up from #27. At some point you add these type of players.

Z3 wants to go with the best skill talent and therefore wants Merkely with a later first round and the best talented guy #8 which may not be Tzachuck if he is available.

The #27 choice wiz had looks like a great add: read the scouting report.

It really boils down to whom do you take, the skill or needing toughness too. I scream at the sissies and am intense when I play sports. So I will dismiss myself as a fair voice whom to take. Z3 is probably correct but I sure would love to grab Tzachuk and Samuelson.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
You have a strong case and I personally would hope our own defense prospects are good enough. We need this kind of player. We need a Samuelson, too, if we move up from #27. At some point you add these type of players.

Z3 wants to go with the best skill talent and therefore wants Merkely with a later first round and the best talented guy #8 which may not be Tzachuck if he is available.

The #27 choice wiz had looks like a great add: read the scouting report.

It really boils down to whom do you take, the skill or needing toughness too. I scream at the sissies and am intense when I play sports. So I will dismiss myself as a fair voice whom to take. Z3 is probably correct but I sure would love to grab Tzachuk and Samuelson.

- jhawk59

Hindsight is of course 20/20 but I was looking at Draftsite's past mock drafts and 2011 and 2012 are interesting for the Hawks.

2011:
1st round, Mark Scheifele
2nd round, Tomas Jurco
2nd round, John Gibson
(1st rounders were McNeill and Danault)

2012:
1st round, Henrik Samuelsson
2nd round, Matt Murray
4th round, Jujhar Khaira
(1st rounder was Teravainen)
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
Any chance Stan tries to bring Shalunov over from Russia?
- z1990z


Sounds like Shanulov is playing out his contract in the KHL then talks of him joining the NHL. So that would be the 2020-21 season.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
I agree, Delia needs to getting starting experience in Rockford for at least a full season and ideally two.

If Crawford is not 100% and will miss a huge part of next season (and worst case scenario all season and has to go on LTIR), I would keep Forsberg as the backup and find a way to trade for Darling. UFA goalie options may be okay for a one-year stop gap like Bernier. It all hinges on Crawford's long-term health.

And if Crawford is ready to go with no relapse in whatever is ailing him, I would still retain Forsberg as the backup. Forsberg needs proper experience to play NHL backup, not get thrust into the emergency starter role.

FWIW, Wiz on Draftsite has the Hawks drafting 3 goalies in June and surprisingly only one defenseman (4th round). He has the Hawks taking Kotkaniemi and Dellandrea at 8th and 27th.

https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/chicago/75/

- AEL_Fox


Might be down to 2 after signing Lankinen. Even then, I would be surprised if they took 2 goalies. Then again... I'm no scout.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

May 22 @ 5:01 PM ET
Might be down to 2 after signing Lankinen. Even then, I would be surprised if they took 2 goalies. Then again... I'm no scout.
- Justin Lowe

I really like the Lankinen signing, to be honest. Great attitude and his numbers improve each year. Could be a steal and the next Niemi/Raanta euro goalie gem that the Hawks scouting department unearths.
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

May 22 @ 5:06 PM ET
Don't be surprised if Bowman trades the 8 pick for proven immediate help. It's the smart move as he can no longer afford another swing and a miss on a high draft pick or anything else and there have been plenty of misses on high draft picks not only here but everywhere else too.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

May 22 @ 5:23 PM ET
To everyone crapping on Tkachuk, please note that there is not one source saying he's holding out all through college until he hits FA. Please link if you have a shred of evidence.

Also, the guy is top 8 at least on almost every single scouting board out there. He's better than Wahlstrom, Farabee, Hayton, Veleno, Kaut, Kotkaniemi, etc... at least according to every scout out there.

From my understanding, he's better than his brother Matthew. His brother Matthew is a very good NHL player (not great, but very good) just 2 years into his NHL career. Brady will bring a level of agitation and rat-ness that none of these other prospects have been noted to have. Plus he's flat out talented.

If Tkachuk is there at 8, that means a couple of teams are drafting for need instead of best-player-available. Unless one of Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, or Boqvist is still available... I'm taking Tkachuk and laughing all the way to the bank.

Yes he's doing another year at Boston, but his coach just quit, and his brother went right into the NHL. This kid is likely chomping at the bit to prove himself. If we have to wait til March to get him... tough bananas. Best player available, every time. Difference between a Jordan Staal and a Jonathan Toews.

- ObeseOprah


No Tkachuk - can teach lots of things but can’t teach high-end skill.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 22 @ 5:32 PM ET
While Hawks can't throw in $$, otherwise what you are saying is exactly how Hawks could move Hossa. Basically paying someone to take his contract with another asset. It's just the idea his contract will have value to a team on it's own isn't true anymore. No one is struggling to get to the Cap floor or trying to find ways to get there on paper without spending $, like Arizona used to be.
- Antilles


Yep
Slofire94
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 01.17.2016

May 22 @ 5:57 PM ET
Don't be surprised if Bowman trades the 8 pick for proven immediate help. It's the smart move as he can no longer afford another swing and a miss on a high draft pick or anything else and there have been plenty of misses on high draft picks not only here but everywhere else too.
- Savoy


Bowman swings and misses on his trades too... idkkk
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 22 @ 6:14 PM ET
To everyone crapping on Tkachuk, please note that there is not one source saying he's holding out all through college until he hits FA. Please link if you have a shred of evidence.

Also, the guy is top 8 at least on almost every single scouting board out there. He's better than Wahlstrom, Farabee, Hayton, Veleno, Kaut, Kotkaniemi, etc... at least according to every scout out there.

From my understanding, he's better than his brother Matthew. His brother Matthew is a very good NHL player (not great, but very good) just 2 years into his NHL career. Brady will bring a level of agitation and rat-ness that none of these other prospects have been noted to have. Plus he's flat out talented.

If Tkachuk is there at 8, that means a couple of teams are drafting for need instead of best-player-available. Unless one of Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, or Boqvist is still available... I'm taking Tkachuk and laughing all the way to the bank.

Yes he's doing another year at Boston, but his coach just quit, and his brother went right into the NHL. This kid is likely chomping at the bit to prove himself. If we have to wait til March to get him... tough bananas. Best player available, every time. Difference between a Jordan Staal and a Jonathan Toews.

- ObeseOprah


If he's best available and on the board, i completely agree with you. Why make the teams behind you better than you by drafting for need.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

May 22 @ 6:45 PM ET
I'm not advocating this, but for whom would you trade the #8 pick straight up? Anyone?


I wouldn't, especially in this draft, but you could potentially get a player that makes an immediate impact.

- tvetter

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walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

May 22 @ 7:24 PM ET
Looks like we’re at 40/50 contracts which RFA’s that are still unsigned do we resign?
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 22 @ 8:21 PM ET
Looks like we’re at 40/50 contracts which RFA’s that are still unsigned do we resign?
- walleyeb1

Only Vinnie and Hayden...
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 22 @ 8:35 PM ET
Breaking news
Rockford Icehogs
Lineup changes
In: Tuulola, H Samuelson
1-1 period one.
Update: 3-2 Texas late period one.
SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.19.2016

May 22 @ 8:50 PM ET
7 years, 49 mill for Evander Kane with the Sharks?
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