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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 7:42 PM ET
The Charging Buffalo
@TheChargingBUF
Gord Miller: “I think this makes them

- gerbe75pts[The Sabres] a real contender to get John Tavares”


Start the 7 letters up

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/134744
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 7:51 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/134744
- homiedclown



it takes a special kind of fan base to have the top two free agents sign with their 31st place team.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

May 16 @ 7:52 PM ET
The Charging Buffalo
@TheChargingBUF
Gord Miller: “I think this makes them

- gerbe75pts[The Sabres] a real contender to get John Tavares”


Start the 7 letters up

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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 7:53 PM ET
it takes a special kind of fan base to have the top two free agents sign with their 31st place team.
- Sabresfan-365

it wasn't me
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 7:53 PM ET
it wasn't me
- homiedclown



I wasn't saying you. A lot of the Sabres fans on capfriendly have lineups like that.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 16 @ 7:54 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/134744
- homiedclown

that return for Bogo has to be the worst ever
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 7:59 PM ET
it takes a special kind of fan base to have the top two free agents sign with their 31st place team.
- Sabresfan-365

Right lol
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 16 @ 7:59 PM ET
Ristolainen to the Oilers for klefbom , Yamamoto
- gerbe75pts

So I see you guys are generally against the idea of a 1-for-1 Risto for Klefbom swap. From the perspective of Oilers fans, anything more than a 1-for-1 would be a massive failure and some are even against a 1-for-1. Both Dmen have their strengths and flaws: Risto is a more creative offensive threat (PP numbers) with a track record of offensive success (consistent 40-point Dman) and no consistent health issues while Klefbom is the more active shooter (between 2.5 and 3 shots/game last two years) with a track record of defensive/possession ability (see numbers prior to this year) and a better contract (1.2mil).

I recognize that injuries can really hurt a player's value but- for what it's worth- one of those injuries was a staph infection where he missed 52 games and the one this year was from a shoulder injury back in junior in Sweden that hadn't properly healed and had left bone debris in his shoulder. This adversely impacted his performance this year and had him unable to use his dominant arm at full strength.

Reading the situation, Oilers fans are generally more okay with a 1-for-1 deal than Sabres fans but both sides have exceptions so it's likely at least close to fair. Perhaps Klefbom and a mid-round pick? A solid prospect (not Yamamoto) instead?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 8:02 PM ET
So I see you guys are generally against the idea of a 1-for-1 Risto for Klefbom swap. From the perspective of Oilers fans, anything more than a 1-for-1 would be a massive failure and some are even against a 1-for-1. Both Dmen have their strengths and flaws: Risto is a more creative offensive threat (PP numbers) with a track record of offensive success (consistent 40-point Dman) and no consistent health issues while Klefbom is the more active shooter (between 2.5 and 3 shots/game last two years) with a track record of defensive/possession ability (see numbers prior to this year) and a better contract (1.2mil).

I recognize that injuries can really hurt a player's value but- for what it's worth- one of those injuries was a staph infection where he missed 52 games and the one this year was from a shoulder injury back in junior in Sweden that hadn't properly healed and had left bone debris in his shoulder. This adversely impacted his performance this year and had him unable to use his dominant arm at full strength.

Reading the situation, Oilers fans are generally more okay with a 1-for-1 deal than Sabres fans but both sides have exceptions so it's likely at least close to fair. Perhaps Klefbom and a mid-round pick? A solid prospect (not Yamamoto) instead?

- MaximumBone

risto vs the oilers

team went 5-2-2

2 goals 11 assists
13 points
+3


not bad for 9 games

bobby orr numbers


klefbom vs the sabres
team went 2-3-1

he had 1 goal and 1 assist in those 6 games and was a plus 2

griffin reinhart like numbers
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 8:03 PM ET
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 8:19 PM ET
risto vs the oilers

team went 5-2-2

2 goals 11 assists
13 points
+3


not bad for 9 games

bobby orr numbers


klefbom vs the sabres
team went 2-3-1

he had 1 goal and 1 assist in those 6 games and was a plus 2

griffin reinhart like numbers

- homiedclown



wow such a large sample size!
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 16 @ 8:19 PM ET
risto vs the oilers

team went 5-2-2

2 goals 11 assists
13 points
+3


not bad for 9 games

bobby orr numbers


klefbom vs the sabres
team went 2-3-1

he had 1 goal and 1 assist in those 6 games and was a plus 2

griffin reinhart like numbers

- homiedclown

The point you're attempting to make is...?

Risto's career numbers Vs San Jose are 3 assists and -3 in 9 games
Klef's career numbers Vs San Jose 2 goals, 10 assists and +3 in 17 games

What does this mean? That Klefbom is FAR superior to Rsitolainen? Nope, it means absolutely nothing- like your point.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

May 16 @ 8:19 PM ET

- homiedclown


I need to watch this movie again.
This was good, cocaine Steve Martin. As opposed to lame Banjo Steve Martin.
....Pizza in a cup, found my special purpose, this is all I need.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 16 @ 8:20 PM ET
wow such a large sample size!
- Sabresfan-365

Is he always this absurd?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 8:22 PM ET
Is he always this absurd?
- MaximumBone

you start saying the 2 guys are even

then you say you will add a blah prospect




translation, you showed your cards already, you would rather have an unknown then him




got it

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 8:23 PM ET
wow such a large sample size!
- Sabresfan-365

sometimes I wish some of you guys up north spoke in German


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 8:27 PM ET
sometimes I wish some of you guys up north spoke in German



- homiedclown


typical toronto guy, he's off on risto's total by 31 (frank)ing points

https://twitter.com/Steve...status/996816878059352064
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 8:30 PM ET
typical toronto guy, he's off on risto's total by 31 (frank)ing points

https://twitter.com/Steve...status/996816878059352064

- Sabresfan-365

we have enough lefties

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 16 @ 8:32 PM ET
typical toronto guy, he's off on risto's total by 31 (frank)ing points

https://twitter.com/Steve...status/996816878059352064

- Sabresfan-365

He's the wurst
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 8:34 PM ET
He's the wurst
- sbroads24

"Ristolainen has 120 pts in 346 career gp (0.35 pts/gp) and is -102."






Eyetest Hockey
‏ @Eyetesthockey
9m9 minutes ago
Replying to @SteveBurtch

Ristolainen has 151 points in 346 or 0.436 pts/gp
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 8:47 PM ET
"Ristolainen has 120 pts in 346 career gp (0.35 pts/gp) and is -102."






Eyetest Hockey
‏ @Eyetesthockey
9m9 minutes ago
Replying to @SteveBurtch

Ristolainen has 151 points in 346 or 0.436 pts/gp

- homiedclown



The advanced stats guy....was off by 31 points


31. are you (frank)ing serious
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 16 @ 8:48 PM ET
typical toronto guy, he's off on risto's total by 31 (frank)ing points

https://twitter.com/Steve...status/996816878059352064

- Sabresfan-365


Wow, he's a "Mathematics Educator".
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 16 @ 8:58 PM ET
The advanced stats guy....was off by 31 points


31. are you (frank)ing serious

- Sabresfan-365

Well points arent an advance stat. You cant blame him.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

May 16 @ 9:16 PM ET
Holy S, flipped off the Rockets game just in time to see the show. Wow.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 9:18 PM ET
Lots of good karma has been happening to Buffalo lately

We all thought we would never picked first overall it happened

Now we all say John Tavares Will never come to Buffalo

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