Also that supporting cast is on their way out.
- bobbyisno1

They have almost 25 million in cap space, 30 million if the cap goes up to 80 million. They'll have plenty of cash to sign him and whomever else they need to keep, especially with their LTIR contracts.

We already went over this. He's not a resident if he spends 6+ months of the year out of the country which he does. He's not paying Canadian taxes. He's paying American taxes. Nevada does not have a state tax. Neither does Texas. Or Florida. Players who play in those states make more money than they would in Toronto. These are proven, well known facts.

https://www.capfriendly.c...t_tax_calculator/10000000

Playing in Toronto would give him one of the lowest post-tax earnings. Vegas would be the highest, tied with Dallas, Florida, Tampa Bay and Nashville.

I have looked it up. You should inform yourself before you comment.
- Unholy_Goalie

So no coaches questioned Duclair’s work ethic, right?

We already went over this. He's not a resident if he spends 6+ months of the year out of the country which he does. He's not paying Canadian taxes. He's paying American taxes. Nevada does not have a state tax. Neither does Texas. Or Florida. Players who play in those states make more money than they would in Toronto. These are proven, well known facts.

https://www.capfriendly.c...t_tax_calculator/10000000

Playing in Toronto would give him one of the lowest post-tax earnings. Vegas would be the highest, tied with Dallas, Florida, Tampa Bay and Nashville.

I have looked it up. You should inform yourself before you comment.
- Unholy_Goalie

See you are wrong, If he has a Canadian residence he's paying Taxes, also he comes here to ply his trade.
Therefore also paying canadian taxes, it's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be.
He only has a work visa, he's still a Canadian citizen.
If he was American it would be a different story and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

We already went over this. He's not a resident if he spends 6+ months of the year out of the country which he does. He's not paying Canadian taxes. He's paying American taxes. Nevada does not have a state tax. Neither does Texas. Or Florida. Players who play in those states make more money than they would in Toronto. These are proven, well known facts.

https://www.capfriendly.c...t_tax_calculator/10000000

Playing in Toronto would give him one of the lowest post-tax earnings. Vegas would be the highest, tied with Dallas, Florida, Tampa Bay and Nashville.

I have looked it up. You should inform yourself before you comment.
- Unholy_Goalie

Also, look it up harder.

Oh (frank), Taxesbuzz...again.

So no coaches questioned Duclair’s work ethic, right?
- Steven_Seagull

Punch Imlach traded Frank Mahovlich because he thought he was lazy.

See you are wrong, If he has a Canadian residence he's paying Taxes, also he comes here to ply his trade.
Therefore also paying canadian taxes, it's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be.
He only has a work visa, he's still a Canadian citizen.
If he was American it would be a different story and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
- bobbyisno1

Nope.

Punch Imlach traded Frank Mahovlich because he thought he was lazy.
- Unholy_Goalie

You heard it here first, folks.

Anthony Duclair = Frank Mahovlich


Pure. Genius. Thank you.

You heard it here first, folks.

Anthony Duclair = Frank Mahovlich


Pure. Genius. Thank you.
- Steven_Seagull

That's exactly what I said. Exactly.

That's exactly what I said. Exactly.
- Unholy_Goalie

<——— it is now.

See you are wrong, If he has a Canadian residence he's paying Taxes, also he comes here to ply his trade.
Therefore also paying canadian taxes, it's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be.
He only has a work visa, he's still a Canadian citizen.
If he was American it would be a different story and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
- bobbyisno1

the cra makes a judgement call as to if you are a resident not.

having a home in canada is one of several things they look at to make the call. but it's not a black and white call.

<——— it is now.
- Steven_Seagull

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.
- Unholy_Goalie

I didn’t compare Mahovlich to Duclair, bud.

<——— it is now.
- Steven_Seagull

zing

the cra makes a judgement call as to if you are a resident not.

having a home in canada is one of several things they look at to make the call. but it's not a black and white call.
- Tumbleweed

"Owning" the house can be avoided to if he puts it under someone else's name.

If he lives 6+ months in the USA (which he would), he pays tax where he would be playing and would be making more money per year (approx. 1.4 million a year more in Vegas, Nashville, Dallas or Florida) than if he lived and played in Toronto.

1.4 million times 7 years is 9.8 million total. That's not pocket change.

The only team that could give him more money are the Islanders because they have the option of giving him the 8th year that nobody else can give him as long as it's at least 5.6 million dollars or more in that final year.

I didn’t compare Mahovlich to Duclair, bud.
- Steven_Seagull

Neither did I.

Neither did I.
- Unholy_Goalie

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

zing
- 21peter

"Owning" the house can be avoided to if he puts it under someone else's name.

If he lives 6+ months in the USA (which he would), he pays tax where he would be playing and would be making more money per year (approx. 1.4 million a year in Vegas, Nashville, Dallas or Florida) than if he lived and played in Toronto.

1.4 million times 7 years is 9.8 million total. That's not pocket change.

The only team that could give him more money are the Islanders because they have the option of giving him the 8th year that nobody else can give him as long as it's at least 5.6 million dollars or more in that final year.
- Unholy_Goalie

it's not black and white like this. you file a non-resident form with the cra. i've done it twice and know many others who have done it as well.

it's not black and white like this. you file a non-resident form with the cra. i've done it twice and know many others who have done it as well.
- Tumbleweed

He has people doing it for him for sure. And the Canadian tax rates are almost always higher than certain places in the USA. He won't make more money in Toronto.

He has people doing it for him for sure. And the Canadian tax rates are almost always higher than certain places in the USA. He won't make more money in Toronto.
- Unholy_Goalie

he'd make more in toronto than long-island. same taxes, but everything would cost .77 on the dollar.

he'd make more in toronto than long-island. same taxes, but everything would cost .77 on the dollar.
- Tumbleweed

8 year deal vs 7 year deal. Long Island wins.

And cost of living isn't necessarily cheaper in Toronto than in Long Island either just because of the exchange rate. A lot of stuff ends up being cheaper in the US. Ever wonder why legions of people from the GTA go to shop in Buffalo?

new blog everyone

But a less functional supporting cast of players. Enter Tavares, a legit #1 player with a legit supporting cast behind him (that proved they can go far without him) and you have a potential contender. Add to the fact he'll have more money in his pocket (better tax rate) and less pressure and that makes Vegas a better candidate.
- Unholy_Goalie

You are forgetting one critical element. Tavares - has to want to play there. If you looked up his salary history - you will have noticed, that unlike last years prize UFA (Stamkos) comparable stats - Stamkos about a point a game, Tavares just under,
Tavares is not all about the highest bidder - his current expiring contract paid him $5.5 a year while Stamkos was making $7.5. I don't think taxes or how many free visits to Peggy's Ranch are offered will have impact. If he wants to play for the Leafs - he will, and it won't be just about $. I would think if Shanny said to him how would you like to win a few cups here in you hometown - he'd listen at the very least.

8 year deal vs 7 year deal. Long Island wins.

And cost of living isn't necessarily cheaper in Toronto than in Long Island either just because of the exchange rate. A lot of stuff ends up being cheaper in the US. Ever wonder why legions of people from the GTA go to shop in Buffalo?
- Unholy_Goalie

housing and property taxes are as much or more in long island.

he'll be making USD and buying things in CAD in toronto. cars, restaurants and a lot of other things will probably be free to him anyways.