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Mike Augello
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

May 15 @ 6:42 PM ET
Iggysbff
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May 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs Evaluations : Defense – Part I
- mikeinbuffalo

All poop

And fist. Suck it gull.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Senators + Sabres + Canucks = 0 Cups. Legacies of failure.
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 15 @ 6:51 PM ET
All poop

And fist. Suck it gull.

- Iggysbff



bluestar
Location: ON
Joined: 12.20.2015

May 15 @ 7:06 PM ET
All poop

And fist. Suck it gull.

- Iggysbff


i hope the Jets smoke your Golden Showers in 5, you bloody troll.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 15 @ 7:08 PM ET
Jake Gardiner..... A++++++
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 15 @ 7:11 PM ET
Ahem...

Tanev.

Thank You.

Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 15 @ 7:12 PM ET
Rielly - Keeper, #2 D.

Hainsey - Old, not part of the future so he doesn't matter.

Zaitsev - Terrible contract, not living up to it right now. Should be traded if possible.

Gardiner - High risk player, pending UFA, might need to be traded if not replaced or re-signed to a good deal.

Dermott - Part of the future, needs more time to develop, possible top-4 D.

Polak - poop, get rid of him.

Carrick - Still young enough to develop a bit more, cheap, worth keeping a bit longer.

Need a legit #1 D, preferably RHD and 25 or under.

Need two more top-4 D, preferably one who can score (if Gardiner is to be replaced) and another one who can at least skate, pass and defend (to replace Zaitsev).

There's a lot of work to be done on the blueline, hopefully the Leafs have at least another one or two top-4 D in the system in the form of Liljegren, Dermott, Rasanen and Nielson. But there doesn't seem to be a legit #1 RHD in the system and it's a big need, one that would be worth the price of paying.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 15 @ 7:13 PM ET
Rielly - Keeper, #2 D.

Hainsey - Old, not part of the future so he doesn't matter.

Zaitsev - Terrible contract, not living up to it right now. Should be traded if possible.

Gardiner - High risk player, pending UFA, might need to be traded if not replaced or re-signed to a good deal.

Dermott - Part of the future, needs more time to develop, possible top-4 D.

Polak - poop, get rid of him.

Carrick - Still young enough to develop a bit more, cheap, worth keeping a bit longer.

Need a legit #1 D, preferably RHD and 25 or under.

Need two more top-4 D, preferably one who can score (if Gardiner is to be replaced) and another one who can at least skate, pass and defend (to replace Zaitsev).

There's a lot of work to be done on the blueline, hopefully the Leafs have at least another one or two top-4 D in the system in the form of Liljegren, Dermott, Rasasen and Nielson. But there doesn't seem to be a legit #1 RHD in the system and it's a big need, one that would be worth the price of paying.

- Unholy_Goalie



AHH- CRAP! I flagged you rather than quoted you. But worst of all, I forgot what I was going to say........ probably for the best.


EDIT -- Oh, Do you think there is a future for Gardiner in Toronto?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 15 @ 7:15 PM ET
Rielly - Keeper, #2 D.

Hainsey - Old, not part of the future so he doesn't matter.

Zaitsev - Terrible contract, not living up to it right now. Should be traded if possible.

Gardiner - High risk player, pending UFA, might need to be traded if not replaced or re-signed to a good deal.

Dermott - Part of the future, needs more time to develop, possible top-4 D.

Polak - poop, get rid of him.

Carrick - Still young enough to develop a bit more, cheap, worth keeping a bit longer.

Need a legit #1 D, preferably RHD and 25 or under.

Need two more top-4 D, preferably one who can score (if Gardiner is to be replaced) and another one who can at least skate, pass and defend (to replace Zaitsev).

There's a lot of work to be done on the blueline, hopefully the Leafs have at least another one or two top-4 D in the system in the form of Liljegren, Dermott, Rasasen and Nielson. But there doesn't seem to be a legit #1 RHD in the system and it's a big need, one that would be worth the price of paying.

- Unholy_Goalie


the question is who.

i'm thinking carlsson could be getting +$8M. that's a non-starter for me.

trade is going to cost us.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
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May 15 @ 7:16 PM ET
the question is who.

i'm thinking carlsson could be getting +$8M. that's a non-starter for me.

trade is going to cost us.

- Tumbleweed



Pssst... look into Chris Tanev... positioning, contract, shot, --- Tanev is what you need.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 7:17 PM ET
As per the last thread, not drafting Bure, Federov and Konstantinov had nothing to do with our scouts or GM.

Ballard hated the USSR.

He would never allow a Russkie to be drafted.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 03.14.2014

May 15 @ 7:18 PM ET
Pssst... look into Chris Tanev... positioning, contract, shot, --- Tanev is what you need.
- Beatle_john


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 7:20 PM ET
Considering Polak made $1.2 million, I'm going to him an A.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Senators + Sabres + Canucks = 0 Cups. Legacies of failure.
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 15 @ 7:20 PM ET
As per the last thread, not drafting Bure, Federov and Konstantinov had nothing to do with our scouts or GM.

Ballard hated the USSR.

He would never allow a Russkie to be drafted.

- Atomic Wedgie



He would’ve loved Korshkov.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 7:21 PM ET

- Tumbleweed

That reminds me: what ever happened to Lupul?

Didn't we have him under contract or something?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 15 @ 7:22 PM ET
That reminds me: what ever happened to Lupul?

Didn't we have him under contract or something?

- Atomic Wedgie


first rule about lupul, don't ask about lupul.




or do those rules not apply anymore?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Senators + Sabres + Canucks = 0 Cups. Legacies of failure.
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 15 @ 7:23 PM ET
That reminds me: what ever happened to Lupul?

Didn't we have him under contract or something?

- Atomic Wedgie



Yep, until June 30th.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 7:23 PM ET
He would’ve loved Korshkov.
- Steven_Seagull

Criticising any Dubas or Hunter move is not permitted in this thread.

Enjoy your ban.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 15 @ 7:24 PM ET
AHH- CRAP! I flagged you rather than quoted you. But worst of all, I forgot what I was going to say........ probably for the best.


EDIT -- Oh, Do you think there is a future for Gardiner in Toronto?

- Beatle_john


Yes but only at 5 million or less a year and only if he plays less than 20 min a night.

Gardiner is effective if he's used correctly. He is not a #1 D and should not be played like one. Gardiner struggled because he was used incorrectly.

Imagine using a screwdriver like a hammer. It won't end well.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 7:25 PM ET
first rule about lupul, don't ask about lupul.




or do those rules not apply anymore?

- Tumbleweed

Guy was an awesome hockey player, who was robbed of his career by that crooked douchebag Lou Lamoriello.

Or at least that's what I will say when Lou goes to the Islanders.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Senators + Sabres + Canucks = 0 Cups. Legacies of failure.
Joined: 03.03.2016

May 15 @ 7:25 PM ET
Criticising any Dubas or Hunter move is not permitted in this thread.

Enjoy your ban.

- Atomic Wedgie



I wasn’t criticizing. He was just the first Russian player drafted I could think of.



Enjoy your ban.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 15 @ 7:26 PM ET
the question is who.

i'm thinking carlsson could be getting +$8M. that's a non-starter for me.

trade is going to cost us.

- Tumbleweed


I didn't like the idea of signing Carlson but if the Leafs trade Gardiner and Zaitsev, I don't have a problem paying him 8 million anymore because they'd have cleared 10+ million in salary and have a few young guys that will be on their ELC for the next few years.

That being said, Carlson isn't a #1 D who would be getting paid like one and who would be signed into his mid 30s. I don't like that but it depends on who they can clear out to make the numbers work.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: LE > MacDavid (on a length of contract/ $ amount adjusted per points less variable corsi)- canuckdon
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 15 @ 7:27 PM ET
Guy was an awesome hockey player, who was robbed of his career by that crooked douchebag Lou Lamoriello.

Or at least that's what I will say when Lou goes to the Islanders.

- Atomic Wedgie


old man lou is going to be nothing without dubas to keep him senile.



don't tell lou i said that.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 15 @ 7:28 PM ET
Yes but only at 5 million or less a year and only if he plays less than 20 min a night.

Gardiner is effective if he's used correctly. He is not a #1 D and should not be played like one. Gardiner struggled because he was used incorrectly.

Imagine using a screwdriver like a hammer. It won't end well.

- Unholy_Goalie



I have! Works for small jobs!
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 15 @ 7:28 PM ET
As per the last thread, not drafting Bure, Federov and Konstantinov had nothing to do with our scouts or GM.

Ballard hated the USSR.

He would never allow a Russkie to be drafted.

- Atomic Wedgie


What about Lidstrom? Salming turned out pretty good albeit he was only a Leaf because Ballard was in jail at the time.

Point still stands; have to start hitting some home runs at the draft.
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