Need to trade him for a character guy like Abdelkader imo
- Feds91Stammer

I am actually curious what the Anthanasiou situation is right now. Is he expected to be a hold out again?

Unrealistic, but I’d love to explore a Sheary/AA swap of sorts

I am actually curious what the Anthanasiou situation is right now. Is he expected to be a hold out again?

Unrealistic, but I’d love to explore a Sheary/AA swap of sorts
- Rinosaur

I expect him to be traded possibly at the draft.

Holland is an ego driven GM. 2 guys he traded last season, Mrazek and Tatar both took him to arbitration. I don't see any reason why he would keep AA based on his track record.

Sheary and a 2nd for AA.

I expect him to be traded possibly at the draft.

Holland is an ego driven GM. 2 guys he traded last season, Mrazek and Tatar both took him to arbitration. I don't see any reason why he would keep AA based on his track record.

Sheary and a 2nd for AA.
- Feds91Stammer

If we're trading Sheary, I'd rather completely shed the cap in order to make a run at Kane, but I'm good with that trade too as a roster shuffle move.

If the "everyone is available" mantra is really true in Carolina, I'd like to see the Pens go after Brett Pesce. Good, young defenseman locked into a good contract. A top 6 of Letang-Dumoulin, Schultz-Maatta, and Pesce-Oleksiak with Ruhwedel as your 7th would be a solid Defensive group.

If the "everyone is available" mantra is really true in Carolina, I'd like to see the Pens go after Brett Pesce. Good, young defenseman locked into a good contract. A top 6 of Letang-Dumoulin, Schultz-Maatta, and Pesce-Oleksiak with Ruhwedel as your 7th would be a solid Defensive group.
- cap1681

4 mil is WAY too much for a bottom pairing guy. We may as well just resign Cole.

If the "everyone is available" mantra is really true in Carolina, I'd like to see the Pens go after Brett Pesce. Good, young defenseman locked into a good contract. A top 6 of Letang-Dumoulin, Schultz-Maatta, and Pesce-Oleksiak with Ruhwedel as your 7th would be a solid Defensive group.
- cap1681

For the right price.

So in actuality almost nobody is available.

I don't see whats funny about that article... its legit trying to reason on HOW it could be done in theory. He would have to sign for less (barring a Kessel, Horny, or Letang cap dump), and then we just hope for no major injuries and have a ton of youth/vet minimums.
- Guile

I get that, I think it's funny because there are like 50 moving parts. That's what's funny. If Tavares hits free agency, every team in the league should call his agent and see what he wants, Penguins included, but it IS funny just to see EVERYTHING that would have to fall in place.

No you don't put one of your four best wings and your second best left winger on the fourth line unless he needs a wake up call.
- Victoro311

Also.. that's the point of RW and others advocating NOT signing guys like Reaves, Kuhnackl, and Rowney and looking for more skilled guys that don't fit the typical 4th line role.

Also.. that's the point of RW and others advocating NOT signing guys like Reaves, Kuhnackl, and Rowney and looking for more skilled guys that don't fit the typical 4th line role.
- j.boyd919

They could easily fill Kuhns 4th line spot within or sign a Filppula, Schaller, Calvert, or Grabner.

4 mil is WAY too much for a bottom pairing guy. We may as well just resign Cole.
- Victoro311

He is pretty much a younger Brian Dumoulin. Only reason he would be on the bottom pairing would be the people above him.

He is pretty much a younger Brian Dumoulin. Only reason he would be on the bottom pairing would be the people above him.
- cap1681

No I know, but the fact remains he'd be on the bottom pairing. You can't pay a guy 4 mil a year to play like 13 minutes a game.

https://www.nhl.com/pengu...artnerId=pit-twt-penguins

It hurts now, but when I've had a chance to sit outside on my deck, cigar in one hand and a Guinness in the other, I'll absolutely appreciate what these players and coaches have achieved over the past few years.

Gangster as (frank).

They could easily fill Kuhns 4th line spot within or sign a Filppula, Schaller, Calvert, or Grabner.
- Feds91Stammer

Yes. Schaller is the guy that I would target.....followed by Calvert or Grabner. There are several others too.

But he's right though...

Kessel still gets a lot of TOI because we role our 3rd line at ES an above average amount and he's on the PP. The 4th line will only get ~10 minutes and Rust doesn't get PP time. Limiting Rust to like 12 minutes including PP time a night is a super bad idea.
- Victoro311

So Rust jumps around (as they do a lot anyway), to get more time as I said originally. Can you at least admit he played well when he did play on the 4th line? If that line is going well, as you say a lot, they earn more minutes. I'd play a line that scores a goal more than 1 that has great Corsi - & I understand you love scoring 'chances' from high danger areas, but for me a goal trumps high Corsi. If you did have a very effective 4th line it takes pressure off the top 6. Not sure how many games we've had where 1 of the top 2 lines was dreadful. But if the name on those lines deserves more minutes who am I to say otherwise.

My comment about Kessel was In reference to your comment about Rust being a top 4 winger. Kessel is a top 4 winger & played a lot 3rd line so far in his Pens career. The fact that Sully played that 3rd line more is exactly what I'm trying to say. Reducing Sid & Genos ice time through the season is not a bad thing - reduces that 'fatigue' factor you were screaming about early on when the 4th line was playing 3/4 minutes! Now it seems playing the 4th line longer giving it solid minutes is a bad idea!

He is pretty much a younger Brian Dumoulin. Only reason he would be on the bottom pairing would be the people above him.
- cap1681

If he's good enough he'd find his way into the top 4. Plenty of shuffling the lines goes on through the year & how many times Maatta has needed a rest or Others, injury as well.

I get the $ value on certain positions, but if the team can afford it & the player is available it should be done.

Example - Tampa is playing in the ecf playing a 4th line worth about 10m. Seems to work as they can afford it this season. Or should they just settle on low salary replacement type players that are the customary hockey 4th liners?

https://www.nhl.com/penguins/team/a-message-from-mike-sullivan?partnerId=pit-twt-penguins



Gangster as (frank).
- j.boyd919

love this so much

love this so much
- stayinthefnnet

Yeah it was an awesome read.

https://www.nhl.com/penguins/team/a-message-from-mike-sullivan?partnerId=pit-twt-penguins



Gangster as (frank).
- j.boyd919

as (frank)

JR has basically said he's open to moving Letang. In a nutshell he said he's not shopping him, but he's open to offers.

According to TIOPS(so tread lightly), Buffalo and Detroit are two teams who tried to pick him up and they're still interested. They also mentioned FLA and AZ could be major suitors for him.

IMO the Pens are best served by a healthy Letang returning to form, but if they're going to move him, they better properly replace him and I have no idea how they'd go about that.

JR has basically said he's open to moving Letang. In a nutshell he said he's not shopping him, but he's open to offers.

According to TIOPS(so tread lightly), Buffalo and Detroit are two teams who tried to pick him up and they're still interested. They also mentioned FLA and AZ could be major suitors for him.

IMO the Pens are best served by a healthy Letang returning to form, but if they're going to move him, they better properly replace him and I have no idea how they'd go about that.
- Rinosaur

Aside from McDavid and Crosby, every player in the NHL is available for the right offer.

Aside from McDavid and Crosby, every player in the NHL is available for the right offer.
- jmatchett383

I think there's a few more to add to that list.

I have officially switched from the Jets to the Knights. Despite not wanting a brand new franchise winning I cant help rooting for MAF. Really good team guy that I probably took for granted having him on the Pens.

JR has basically said he's open to moving Letang. In a nutshell he said he's not shopping him, but he's open to offers.

According to TIOPS(so tread lightly), Buffalo and Detroit are two teams who tried to pick him up and they're still interested. They also mentioned FLA and AZ could be major suitors for him.

IMO the Pens are best served by a healthy Letang returning to form, but if they're going to move him, they better properly replace him and I have no idea how they'd go about that.
- Rinosaur

Thats a good stance to take from JR. Let someone give you a great offer instead of trying to pawn him off.

The teams mentioned actually make sense. The most interesting is Florida. Any chance there could be a Letang for Ekblad deal? I'd do that for sure.

Detroit would be difficult to gauge. I can see why they would want him but is there a deal that makes sense for both teams? I mean, I'd be interested in a Letang for Mantha or Larkin deal but not sure if/why Detroit would want to give one of them up.

Letang and Sheary for Mantha and (a sign & trade) Mike Green? I'd consider it.

Thats a good stance to take from JR. Let someone give you a great offer instead of trying to pawn him off.

The teams mentioned actually make sense. The most interesting is Florida. Any chance there could be a Letang for Ekblad deal? I'd do that for sure.

Detroit would be difficult to gauge. I can see why they would want him but is there a deal that makes sense for both teams? I mean, I'd be interested in a Letang for Mantha or Larkin deal but not sure if/why Detroit would want to give one of them up.

Letang and Sheary for Mantha and (a sign & trade) Mike Green? I'd consider it.
- MacPatty

Thats a good stance to take from JR. Let someone give you a great offer instead of trying to pawn him off.

The teams mentioned actually make sense. The most interesting is Florida. Any chance there could be a Letang for Ekblad deal? I'd do that for sure.

Detroit would be difficult to gauge. I can see why they would want him but is there a deal that makes sense for both teams? I mean, I'd be interested in a Letang for Mantha or Larkin deal but not sure if/why Detroit would want to give one of them up.

Letang and Sheary for Mantha and (a sign & trade) Mike Green? I'd consider it.
- MacPatty

This is (frank)ing awful.