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TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

May 3 @ 10:48 AM ET
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

May 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
Not to split hairs but this was back in 2013, prior to the onset of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Our former president must have weighed in with some sort of hashtag###?

- TrueGrit

😳
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 3 @ 10:59 AM ET
Not to split hairs but this was back in 2013, prior to the onset of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Our former president must have weighed in with some sort of hashtag###?

- TrueGrit


Why doesn't your post show up?

And PE's?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 3 @ 11:01 AM ET
Why doesn't your post show up?

And PE's?

- StLBravesFan


Maybe they make too much sense, and you know the media wants all of us to be idiots.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 3 @ 11:02 AM ET
Maybe they make too much sense, and you know the media wants all of us to be idiots.
- powerenforcer


Maybe.

Doubtful.

But maybe.

Mine showed up....
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
Not to split hairs but this was back in 2013, prior to the onset of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Our former president must have weighed in with some sort of hashtag###?

- TrueGrit


Good point - 5 years ago - but still....
HawksHype
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.08.2011

May 3 @ 11:18 AM ET
You should. I know players had to be moved out, but I always thought he was a mistake to move.

Wonder if they still win two more cups if Sharp was moved instead of him. Or I guess at the time, Bolland was making similar money.

- vabeachbear


That's definitely something to think about. You really can't argue Bowman moved the wrong people after '10 and '13... he won more cups. Maybe there was a way you keep Buff, but good point, do they win? You can't look back and argue with the success after the player dumps. After '15, jury is still out honestly. 15-16 season hawks were 5th in the league and 16-17 they were 3rd. You can't argue they didn't put out a good team, they just s*** the bed in the playoffs. This season was a big change in approach, trying to go young and having to deal with health issues. There was a lull similar after '10 to '13. This year just was really a big setback that none of us were used to.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
Why doesn't your post show up?

And PE's?

- StLBravesFan


Not to split hairs but this was back in 2013, prior to the onset of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Our former president must have weighed in with some sort of hashtag###?
- TrueGrit

He must have deleted the post. The hash tag he is looking for is #wherewasmyinvite
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

May 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
can anyone enlighten me why Pekka Rinne is not facing a discipline hearing for a 2 handed lumber jack style swing with his goalie stick to a Jets player with his back turned. A little higher and he could have broken a few ribs or potentially other much worse damage.
- glennjpawlak22


Great question. Right up there with how does Crosby get away with smashing Subban’s head repeatedly on the ice during the Cup Final last year? Not a fan of Subban but this was ridiculous. Nothing happened to Crosby at all. Malkin also dirty his entire career - takes out Crawford with crystal clear direct hit to the head - nothing. The Rinne situation is also ridiculous. Not only did nothing happen to Rinne but a Ref went to talk to him as if he was his Psychiatrist. Oh poor Rinne. What is happening?
dpard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: My preferred gender pronoun is "Corn Pop"
Joined: 04.18.2011

May 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
Good point - 5 years ago - but still....
- StLBravesFan

Good logic....guess he should weigh in on Jeffery dahmer or Gacy cases, about as relevant
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

May 3 @ 12:16 PM ET
Keep your head up when Tom Wilson is on the ice. Many disagree and that’s fine... the way I saw it was Aston Reese skating with his head down, then saw him coming about a stride before contact, adjusted his shoulder to embrace the contact into Wilson and the vastly bigger Wilson exploded through the shoulder and then into the head. Shoulder was initial contact point IMO. They didn’t call it a penalty on the ice bc the Refs both saw it as shoulder to shoulder in real time. In slow motion it looks way worse but bc it’s Wilson it’s a suspension. The injury also sealed his fate. That would’ve been no penalty or suspension before the lockout.

Wilson also has 1st round skill and has been playing top line so huge loss both literally and figuratively for the Capitals.

- EnzoD



Catching up here, so I may be repeating something. “Initial point of contact” is where a lot of people get this rule wrong. It’s the “main point of contact” that matters in the first part of the rule. So even if the shoulder is the initial point of contact in the check, if the head ends up absorbing the main impact of the check, it’s an illegal hit to the head.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 3 @ 12:19 PM ET
Catching up here, so I may be repeating something. “Initial point of contact” is where a lot of people get this rule wrong. It’s the “main point of contact” that matters in the first part of the rule. So even if the shoulder is the initial point of contact in the check, if the head ends up absorbing the main impact of the check, it’s an illegal hit to the head.
- walleyeb1


Objects move when they are hit. Only the NHL can set up rules that defy logic.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

May 3 @ 12:27 PM ET
Objects move when they are hit. Only the NHL can set up rules that defy logic.
- powerenforcer


I don’t know. What’s illogical about it. Players are supposed to be responsible for their sticks, why not their bodies when checking?

If you’re going to blow a guy up don’t accidentally also decapitate him...seems pretty simple.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

May 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
Objects move when they are hit. Only the NHL can set up rules that defy logic.
- powerenforcer


I’m not sure about defying logic but it would help if they could somehow come up with a way to better explain their logic. Actually it’s not even explaining it so much as finding a way to get it out there so the fan base knows what it is:

https://www.nhl.com/video...12/c-60017103?q=Head+main
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 3 @ 12:45 PM ET
Great question. Right up there with how does Crosby get away with smashing Subban’s head repeatedly on the ice during the Cup Final last year? Not a fan of Subban but this was ridiculous. Nothing happened to Crosby at all. Malkin also dirty his entire career - takes out Crawford with crystal clear direct hit to the head - nothing. The Rinne situation is also ridiculous. Not only did nothing happen to Rinne but a Ref went to talk to him as if he was his Psychiatrist. Oh poor Rinne. What is happening?
- Z3Hawk


The Malkin hit to Crawford may have been a blessing in disguise, it started the collapse that got us to the 8th overall pick. Crawford covered up a lot of holes that no one wanted to acknowledge, him going down forced the team to admit that it needed a lot of better players.

The tank probably helped us deal Hartman for a 1st, Wingels for a 3rd.

This is a better outcome than limping into the 7 or 8 seed, and getting ousted. Or missing the playoffs by a few points and getting the 14th or 15th overall

Only one team will finish this year fully satisfied, the Hawks are actually making the most of this down year by getting a higher pick and more picks.

They need to deal Hossa's cap hit, that plus the cap increase should give us roughly $7M to burn on FAs.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

May 3 @ 12:45 PM ET
I saw some commentary on Jack Johnson early in this thread. I just wondered how much of an improvement he would be over anybody not named Duncan Keith right now. One caveat regarding his advanced stats is that his zone starts are in the defensive zone 55-60% since he arrived in Columbus. I haven't watched him play much, tbh, and I don't know what his expected cap hit is going to be. Call me crazy, but I'd think it should be looked into if the terms are right.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 3 @ 12:46 PM ET
If Bowman wants the best case scenario which is the most competitive team next year, then he needs to bring in two veteran dmen. This probably means being creative with the Hossa contract. I would prefer giving J Johnson a nice contract and exploring deHahn as a second dman to reel in. I will not speculate the cost to acquire them because i would just be guessing

Johnson was playing third pair minures and was replaced by R Murray early March. I believe that both Johnson and deHahn could be adequate second pair for us
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

May 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
Great question. Right up there with how does Crosby get away with smashing Subban’s head repeatedly on the ice during the Cup Final last year? Not a fan of Subban but this was ridiculous. Nothing happened to Crosby at all. Malkin also dirty his entire career - takes out Crawford with crystal clear direct hit to the head - nothing. The Rinne situation is also ridiculous. Not only did nothing happen to Rinne but a Ref went to talk to him as if he was his Psychiatrist. Oh poor Rinne. What is happening?
- Z3Hawk


I would image that if a mlb player took a swing with his bat at another player, he would get more than getting kicked out of that game. (I know there is precedent for this at least back to the early sixties in an incident between the dodgers and giants, I believe.)

This one just seems to me to be one of those simple rules.....you do this and we are going to come down on you....and it really doesn’t matter what your intent was or whether you hurt someone or not. Two-handed swing with a stick should be 10 games first time and an entire season the second
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

May 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
Until last season, i always remembered Pekka crumbling in the playoffs. I wonder if he's reverting back to old form? Obviously the Jets are a stacked team, but Rinne has looked very beatable so far.
vshun
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Potomac Falls, VA
Joined: 06.04.2015

May 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
If Bowman wants the best case scenario which is the most competitive team next year, then he needs to bring in two veteran dmen.
- jhawk59

I am sure he is itching at this idea, and already calling Timmonen and Rodsival. Unless he wants to go full with youth movement and retrieve Runblad.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 3 @ 12:54 PM ET
I don’t know. What’s illogical about it. Players are supposed to be responsible for their sticks, why not their bodies when checking?

If you’re going to blow a guy up don’t accidentally also decapitate him...seems pretty simple.

- HawkintheD


What's illogical about it is that ANY CHECK can then be considered a suspenndable check. Maybe the league needs to see what it can do to either 1) make sure the effects of checks are minimal (maybe by saying use smaller gear, or different gear), or 2) suspend coaches along with the players, then maybe the coach will have more leverage to cheange a playrs way.

But, did you know you proved my point with the stick thing? Remember Crosby slashed a finger tip off a player, but I guess some players have their own set of rules. This is not logical.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

May 3 @ 12:54 PM ET
I don’t know. What’s illogical about it. Players are supposed to be responsible for their sticks, why not their bodies when checking?

If you’re going to blow a guy up don’t accidentally also decapitate him...seems pretty simple.

- HawkintheD


This makes too much sense. That disqualifies it as an nhl rule.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

May 3 @ 12:55 PM ET
I would image that it a mlb took a swing with his bat at another player, he would get more than getting kicked out of that game. (I know there is precedent for this at least back to the early sixties in an incident between the dodgers and giants, I believe.)

This one just seems to me to be one of those simple rules.....you do this and we are going to come down on you....and it really doesn’t matter what your intent was or whether you hurt someone or not. Two-handed swing with a stick should be 10 games first time and an entire season the second

- Spec41971


One handed swing and an "I'm sorry" only gets you a game though, ala Duncan Keith on Jeff Carter. (frank)er had it comin'
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 3 @ 12:56 PM ET
The Malkin hit to Crawford may have been a blessing in disguise, it started the collapse that got us to the 8th overall pick. Crawford covered up a lot of holes that no one wanted to acknowledge, him going down forced the team to admit that it needed a lot of better players.

The tank probably helped us deal Hartman for a 1st, Wingels for a 3rd.

This is a better outcome than limping into the 7 or 8 seed, and getting ousted. Or missing the playoffs by a few points and getting the 14th or 15th overall

Only one team will finish this year fully satisfied, the Hawks are actually making the most of this down year by getting a higher pick and more picks.

They need to deal Hossa's cap hit, that plus the cap increase should give us roughly $7M to burn on FAs.

- ObeseOprah


Still deserved a hearing. League needs to explain why there was not one.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

May 3 @ 12:57 PM ET
I am sure he is itching at this idea, and already calling Timmonen and Rodsival. Unless he wants to go full with youth movement and retrieve Runblad.
- vshun


doesn't he hold some kind of record for best corsi of all time with the Hawks or something?
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