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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Good point, cpt. I mean lots of teams have won Stanley Cups after making the playoffs. Garth wants the Islanders to be the first team in history to win the Cup after FAILING to make the playoffs.
- JohnScammo

"They poop on him well they poop on me too!"


Garth will defy the odds he always does!
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 18 @ 3:43 PM ET
"They poop on him well they poop on me too!"


Garth will defy the odds he always does!

- Cptmjl


What other GM can not make any deadline moves and not make the playoffs? C'mon, man. Snow's a genius. Ask him, he'll tell you.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM ET
What other GM can not make any deadline moves and not make the playoffs? C'mon, man. Snow's a genius. Ask him, he'll tell you.
- Isleshockeyman

He's so (frank)ing great.
Rearviewmirror
New York Islanders
Joined: 04.19.2018

Apr 19 @ 7:49 AM ET
Good point, cpt. I mean lots of teams have won Stanley Cups after making the playoffs. Garth wants the Islanders to be the first team in history to win the Cup after FAILING to make the playoffs.
- JohnScammo




I think Ranger fans would disagree with this they have won almost every year playoff or not
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 9:16 AM ET
I think Ranger fans would disagree with this they have won almost every year playoff or not
- Rearviewmirror


But here's the thing about the Rags, they've only missed the playoffs twice during Snow's reign of terror. Eliminated 4 times in the first round. 2 conference finals losses and 1 Stanley cup final loss. So do they expect to win? Yes, I'm sure they do. Why? Because their GM puts them in a position to get to the playoffs and quite possibly do some damage every year. Meanwhile, we sit here and hope other teams lose so the Isles can back their way into the playoffs. Inevitably, getting smoked in the first round. Except for that one time when they made a deep run all the way into the 2nd round against the Lightning. All that wheeling & dealing that they've done over the years catches up to them eventually. Like I think it has now. No talent in the pipeline. But they put their cards on the table and took their shot at it. I'd rather see my team take a shot at deep runs over the course of 10 years than just sit back and exclaim what a great job they did of not getting to the playoffs yet again and what great talent they have in the system. Just my 2 cents.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:18 AM ET
I would like to agree with you on this but I'm having a real hard time believing he's going to get promoted and have no input as far as the team. I have a feeling Wang signed him to a more lucrative, iron clad contract than any of us suspected and they have to justify his existence. I also believe that's the only reason he's still here and why Ledecky seemed so pissed at that "press conference" due to the negative publicity this has gotten and him having his hands somewhat tied. I read somewhere his contract is rumored to be 50 million for 10 years(Compton, Friedman?, can't remember?) not sure if there's any truth to that but that's a real scary thought and would explain a lot.
- Cptmjl


There is no way on earth he got 5 shmill a year.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 9:22 AM ET
There is no way on earth he got 5 shmill a year.
- kindlyrick

Agreed, KR. $5/hr is an over-payment for this idiot to do what he's done to this team.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Agreed, KR. $5/hr is an over-payment for this idiot to do what he's done to this team.
- Isleshockeyman

I got a name for you. Charles Wang.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
There is no way on earth he got 5 shmill a year.
- kindlyrick

I certainly hope not.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 9:55 AM ET
I got a name for you. Charles Wang.
- Cptmjl

He's such a wanghead. Giving Snow one contract was dumb enough. Then he turns around and extends him. His idiocy is incomprehensible.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 19 @ 10:08 AM ET
He's such a wanghead. Giving Snow one contract was dumb enough. Then he turns around and extends him. His idiocy is incomprehensible.
- Isleshockeyman

How Ledecky and Malkin bought this team and took on Snow and his supposed "fire proof" contract as Compton put it is beyond me? It screams absolute stupidity beyond description. Charles Wang has completely (frank)ed this team once again.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 19 @ 10:32 AM ET
How Ledecky and Malkin bought this team and took on Snow and his supposed "fire proof" contract as Compton put it is beyond me? It screams absolute stupidity beyond description. Charles Wang has completely (frank)ed this team once again.
- Cptmjl


I know it does not work this way, but Wang should be responsible for Garth's contract as it happened under his watch. This would stop any nonsense like this happening again.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 11:06 AM ET
How Ledecky and Malkin bought this team and took on Snow and his supposed "fire proof" contract as Compton put it is beyond me? It screams absolute stupidity beyond description. Charles Wang has completely (frank)ed this team once again.
- Cptmjl


It's such a (frank)ing gong show! No wonder why big time ufa's don't want to play here. Hell, even most of the players in the league don't want to play here. What were they, 3rd for teams players don't want to go to? This entire organization is a joke. Absolutely zero accountability (unless your name happens to be Josh Ho-Sang) from the top down, no fear of retribution of any kind and a country-club atmosphere.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
I know it does not work this way, but Wang should be responsible for Garth's contract as it happened under his watch. This would stop any nonsense like this happening again.
- ses111

Hopefully his karmic payback will be getting pineapples shoved up his ass daily in hell by Satan himself.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
Hopefully his karmic payback will be getting pineapples shoved up his ass daily in hell by Satan himself.
- Isleshockeyman


It was such a shady move by Wang. L&M could not take over for two years and could not stop Wang giving Garth a sweet deal. There needs to be some protections put into place so this cannot happen to someone else. L&M should have had the right to signoff or reject something like this even though there were not control yet they were going to be in control in two years.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 11:23 AM ET
It was such a shady move by Wang. L&M could not take over for two years and could not stop Wang giving Garth a sweet deal. There needs to be some protections put into place so this cannot happen to someone else. L&M should have had the right to signoff or reject something like this even though there were not control yet they were going to be in control in two years.
- ses111

Should be, I agree.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 19 @ 11:33 AM ET
Should be, I agree.
- Isleshockeyman


I'm not a big regulations person, but some smart protections are needed. I have a lot of issues with L&M and I want Garth fired, but I have to think he does not have a simple contract or he would have been fired already? You just know Wang would hate to see L&M succeed after he made a mess of things and that played into Wang extending Garth.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 19 @ 11:41 AM ET
Guys as far as the Wang given fire proof, iron clad contract Snow has, can anyone tell me the specifics? Anyone?
No one knew what Snow was being paid on his first GM contract let alone this iron clad contract.
Hell no one knew what Crappy was making.
I get there may have been an extension given to Snow by his Sugar Daddy Wang but it will not stand in the way of L and M after spending $500,000,000 dollars on the team,another $1,000,000,000 on a proposed Arena and not fire Snow even if he’s making 5 million a year.
The BS that surrounds this team is just unbelievable. It’s a shat magnet and it’s really getting old
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 19 @ 11:48 AM ET
Guys as far as the Wang given fire proof, iron clad contract Snow has, can anyone tell me the specifics? Anyone?
No one knew what Snow was being paid on his first GM contract let alone this iron clad contract.
Hell no one knew what Crappy was making.
I get there may have been an extension given to Snow by his Sugar Daddy Wang but it will not stand in the way of L and M after spending $500,000,000 dollars on the team,another $1,000,000,000 on a proposed Arena and not fire Snow even if he’s making 5 million a year.
The BS that surrounds this team is just unbelievable. It’s a shat magnet and it’s really getting old

- nyisles7


It would be great to know the extra contract Garth has 7. L&M have to know they would have been hero's if they fired Garth with Cappy last year after they missed on the playoffs after winning a round. Know if this makes sense and it just adds to speculation.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Apr 19 @ 11:57 AM ET
Guys as far as the Wang given fire proof, iron clad contract Snow has, can anyone tell me the specifics? Anyone?
No one knew what Snow was being paid on his first GM contract let alone this iron clad contract.
Hell no one knew what Crappy was making.
I get there may have been an extension given to Snow by his Sugar Daddy Wang but it will not stand in the way of L and M after spending $500,000,000 dollars on the team,another $1,000,000,000 on a proposed Arena and not fire Snow even if he’s making 5 million a year.
The BS that surrounds this team is just unbelievable. It’s a shat magnet and it’s really getting old

- nyisles7


No details have ever been released. I looked pretty hard. All we have a rumors. Also Botta mentioned in a podcast that the NHL won't approve iron clad contracts. Snow's contract may be ridiculous and he may have a golden parachute, but if L&M wanted him gone he could be gone even though it may cost them.

Also I agree even if it would be painful to buyout Snow, it's peanuts compared to what they've spent and are going to spend.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Apr 19 @ 11:57 AM ET
It was such a shady move by Wang. L&M could not take over for two years and could not stop Wang giving Garth a sweet deal. There needs to be some protections put into place so this cannot happen to someone else. L&M should have had the right to signoff or reject something like this even though there were not control yet they were going to be in control in two years.
- ses111


L&M were minority owners. I'm sure they knew the full details of Snow's contract before they took over.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
L&M were minority owners. I'm sure they knew the full details of Snow's contract before they took over.
- JimmyP


This is true but the problem is they could do nothing about it. There needs to be some protections so something slimy cannot happen. Wang was on the way out in two years and should not have been allowed to hurt the team with a lousy contract.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
Guys as far as the Wang given fire proof, iron clad contract Snow has, can anyone tell me the specifics? Anyone?
No one knew what Snow was being paid on his first GM contract let alone this iron clad contract.
Hell no one knew what Crappy was making.
I get there may have been an extension given to Snow by his Sugar Daddy Wang but it will not stand in the way of L and M after spending $500,000,000 dollars on the team,another $1,000,000,000 on a proposed Arena and not fire Snow even if he’s making 5 million a year.
The BS that surrounds this team is just unbelievable. It’s a shat magnet and it’s really getting old

- nyisles7


I'll believe he's fired when I see it. If they are indeed planning on canning his ass, then why not just do it? Because of JT? Legal terms of Snows contract? None of know what the terms of his contract are. How it wasn't disclosed is beyond me as everything nowadays is about transparency.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
No details have ever been released. I looked pretty hard. All we have a rumors. Also Botta mentioned in a podcast that the NHL won't approve iron clad contracts. Snow's contract may be ridiculous and he may have a golden parachute, but if L&M wanted him gone he could be gone even though it may cost them.

Also I agree even if it would be painful to buyout Snow, it's peanuts compared to what they've spent and are going to spend.

- JimmyP


!00% Jimmy.

The NHL is a franchise and approves all sales and also their conditions.

Again the rumors that surround this team is a Phucking joke! I have to add that the secrecy and closed inner circle and limited press approval is to blame for a hell of a lot of the BS that follows this team!
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
No details have ever been released. I looked pretty hard. All we have a rumors. Also Botta mentioned in a podcast that the NHL won't approve iron clad contracts. Snow's contract may be ridiculous and he may have a golden parachute, but if L&M wanted him gone he could be gone even though it may cost them.

Also I agree even if it would be painful to buyout Snow, it's peanuts compared to what they've spent and are going to spend.

- JimmyP


The NHL also allowed someone without money to but the Isles. Bettman and co are not exactly on top of things.
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