jhawk59
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Noooooo
Problem 1 is yielding the blue line uncontested and the gap between the forwards and the defenders. Part of the problem is with the forwards, part is with the defenders. The forwards for not back checking efficiently and the defenders for constantly backing up in stead of standing up.
Problem 2 is the forwards not coming back and helping in an organized manner. The cross ice pass was always open and against teams with a defender who has a half way decent shot they were constantly victimized by open point shots.
Problem 3 is the defenders were either not good enough to make a 40ft pass, the forwards were not making themselves available for an easy outlet pass and Q does not allow his defenders to skate the puck forward. Because the Hawks couldn't effectively exit the zone this created turnovers because there was no outlet and you've got Keith doing poop that probably makes him crazy like making a square pass to Osterle OR puck turned over in the neutral zone on an errant pass creating a 3 v 2.
Problem 4 when zone time was actually attained you rarely saw a defender keep a puck in. They were typically retreating straight away which made it difficult to maintain meaningful zone time.
It amounts to the players on the ice not playing any semblance of a system and being victimized because of their disorganization. The bad part about that is they never seemed to put it together at all as the season went on. That in itself is a pretty strong argument against Q at this point. - fattybeef
Either Q's system and instruction is not working or some players are just not willing to put forth the effort. Q is too old school with things, HE CANNOT EVEN GET HIS COACHES OR PLAYERS TO PLAY THE CORRECT WAY ON POWERPLAY, THAT IS NOT ALL ON THE PLAYERS OR THE PLAYERS Bowman assembled. A good coach gets extra out of his players. Too much of a country club atmosphere plus BOWMAN THINIKS HE CAN GET AWAY with more skill and less heavy hitters or grit. Face the facts, you ignorant BLACKHAWk management: see playoff hockey for what it is.
we shall see in the fall if they are willing to bring less of an all offensive set and more balance to the blueline group. Both Martinsen and Samuelson son should be playing here if there is no upgade elsewhere. They need a Tzachuc type in a top six role. Duh. A lot more grit as well Duh.
Too bad you cannot get like 50 friends and acquitances to stand all around the Stadium with nasty signs. Reminiscent of Blueline publication (or whatever it was called) with busy bee activity! |
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kwolf68
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Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA Joined: 12.18.2010
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I get the over the top insanity of Savoy concerning Panarin, but the dude scores points, he scores them with or without Kane. Lets call it like it is. He's not a warrior in the crease, but he's a hell of a hockey player. Another excellent talent who once wore Blackhawks colors now enjoying great success in another city. |
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4 assists on the power play and a soft OT goal
He's the same player he was here soft in the corners and with his defense - BetweenTheDots
You mean kinda like P. Kane?
He had one spot open for that shot and he picked it for the OT game winner.
I'll take that softness any day. |
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I get the over the top insanity of Savoy concerning Panarin, but the dude scores points, he scores them with or without Kane. Lets call it like it is. He's not a warrior in the crease, but he's a hell of a hockey player. Another excellent talent who once wore Blackhawks colors now enjoying great success in another city. - kwolf68
I agree but let's not anoint him the lost savior of this team, it's a (frank)ing joke. He's an above average hockey player who can pile the points up during the regular season. He was useless against quality defensive hockey teams inthe playoffs at the time everyone saw it but how quickly some forget and only see the stats and don't see all the little things a player needs to do to help his team win
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You mean kinda like P. Kane?
He had one spot open for that shot and he picked it for the OT game winner.
I'll take that softness any day. - Rota's Rooter
So you're saying he's as good as Kane? |
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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4 assists on the power play and a soft OT goal
He's the same player he was here soft in the corners and with his defense - BetweenTheDots
There are about 10 players in the NHL that could have pulled off what Panarin did on his G1 OT winner.
1. He outraced the D man around the corner
2. He was on his off wing, and shifted from backhand to forehand while protecting the puck
3. He hit a tiny spot long side under the cross bar
That was an all world goal. |
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There are about 10 players in the NHL that could have pulled off what Panarin did on his G1 OT winner.
1. He outraced the D man around the corner
2. He was on his off wing, and shifted from backhand to forehand while protecting the puck
3. He hit a tiny spot long side under the cross bar
That was an all world goal. - scottak
Put him on a pedestal then because Booger sucks and the defenseman was horrible on the play
Btw he wasn't on his off wing |
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4 assists on the power play and a soft OT goal
He's the same player he was here soft in the corners and with his defense - BetweenTheDots
He's a super star who can break the game open with just enough space.
And considering the Jackets power play has been horrific its kind of a big deal that they are scoring on it. |
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He's a super star who can break the game open with just enough space.
And considering the Jackets power play has been horrific its kind of a big deal that they are scoring on it. - fattybeef
So Caps defense and goalie have nothing to do with the penaltykill.
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If i see this kind of performance bette against the Pens then maybe but I've watchedthe last 2games and guys i hate to breakit to you but Goober and their defense suck |
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If the Hawks were in the eastern conference they mightof actually made the playoffs, there is some really bad hockey being played by some of those so called playoff teams |
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Man, if they had six Bobby Orr’s in their prime, I wouldn’t even start the goalie. I’d put all six Orr’s out at one, grab a couple of cold ones and sit back and watch the show! - Spec41971
The previous poster underplayed the talent Orr had. Before his knees gave out (at an early age) this guy made players around him look like pylons. I have been watching hockey a long time and I have not seen as dynamic a player as Orr in his prime. He had a good hand in making that Esposito trade look so bad for us. |
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35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Springfield, IL Joined: 05.10.2015
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There are about 10 players in the NHL that could have pulled off what Panarin did on his G1 OT winner.
1. He outraced the D man around the corner
2. He was on his off wing, and shifted from backhand to forehand while protecting the puck
3. He hit a tiny spot long side under the cross bar
That was an all world goal. - scottak
Goalie came out, likely thought he had that top corner covered but he didn't. Panarin saw it and hit the spot. Good on Panarin for spotting it, better on Panarin for hitting the spot. He does certainly have some all world skill, but that goal did not show it. Columbus really needed a player like him. Chicago really needs a player like Saad. Good trade for both sides. |
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pdx2ord
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Location: Portland, OR Joined: 09.02.2015
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Former Hawk Panik got himself arrested in Scottsdale for trespassing (allegedly refused to leave a bar where he was drinking).
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Former Hawk Panik got himself arrested in Scottsdale for trespassing (allegedly refused to leave a bar where he was drinking). - pdx2ord
Is this the reason why his play fell off so badly this year? |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Former Hawk Panik got himself arrested in Scottsdale for trespassing (allegedly refused to leave a bar where he was drinking). - pdx2ord
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So you're saying he's as good as Kane? - BetweenTheDots
Kinda starting to look that way.
I know, hard to believe a Russian could be as good as a good old, red-blooded American boy.
Sure he's soft in the corners and stays on the perimeter in board battles because that is not his strength. Just like Patrick Kane. |
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Either Q's system and instruction is not working or some players are just not willing to put forth the effort. Q is too old school with things, HE CANNOT EVEN GET HIS COACHES OR PLAYERS TO PLAY THE CORRECT WAY ON POWERPLAY, THAT IS NOT ALL ON THE PLAYERS OR THE PLAYERS Bowman assembled. A good coach gets extra out of his players. Too much of a country club atmosphere plus BOWMAN THINIKS HE CAN GET AWAY with more skill and less heavy hitters or grit. Face the facts, you ignorant BLACKHAWk management: see playoff hockey for what it is.
we shall see in the fall if they are willing to bring less of an all offensive set and more balance to the blueline group. Both Martinsen and Samuelson son should be playing here if there is no upgade elsewhere. They need a Tzachuc ktype in a top six role. Duh. A lot more grit as well Duh.
Too bad you cannot get like 50 friends and acquitances to stand all around the Stadium with nasty signs. Blueline with busy bee activity! - jhawk59
To be fair to Q they really didn't have the right mix of players to fit into the mold that has brought him success over the years. And quite a bit of that is because Bowman has done a poor job managing the cap and contract extensions.
After 9 years and the history in Colorado and St Louis they should know what they need to give Q or they should find someone else. Last year was literally his first losing season. That is a pretty incredible stat.
118 playoff wins is pretty crazy. And thats +30 above anyone active now. Regular season wins are 2nd all time.
And while Q does some goofy stuff with the line up he's done that the last 25 years so at what point will that not be surprising. Maybe that doesn't make him the right guy for the job now or maybe the front office needs to do a better job acquiring the right talent.
They were weak at center (on Bowman), they didn't make the most of their athletes on the blue line (probably Q), and many of those go away if Crow is healthy, they sign Tavares and find a top 4 guy to ride shotgun with Keith.
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Having watched most of the playoff games so far, I think it's fair to say the Blackhawks would have been steamrolled by any of these teams. It's a shame that Bowman/Q let our team fall so far so quickly. |
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Goalie came out, likely thought he had that top corner covered but he didn't. Panarin saw it and hit the spot. Good on Panarin for spotting it, better on Panarin for hitting the spot. He does certainly have some all world skill, but that goal did not show it. Columbus really needed a player like him. Chicago really needs a player like Saad. Good trade for both sides. - 35Tony0
Yes, when he is doing Saad things. He pretty much forgot how to hockey this past season, like a lot of the Hawks. |
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riozzo
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Location: Cornwallis Island Joined: 06.17.2014
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Has anyone seen of Suban is getting some unpaid time off or a bonus from DOPS for his sucker punch on McKinnon? |
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35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Springfield, IL Joined: 05.10.2015
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Yes, when he is doing Saad things. He pretty much forgot how to hockey this past season, like a lot of the Hawks. - Rota's Rooter
Touché. |
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35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Springfield, IL Joined: 05.10.2015
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Has anyone seen of Suban is getting some unpaid time off or a bonus from DOPS for his sucker punch on McKinnon? - riozzo
After ragdolling Toews up and down the ice for four games last April for fun and profit? I'd be surprised. |
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walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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You mean kinda like P. Kane?
He had one spot open for that shot and he picked it for the OT game winner.
I'll take that softness any day. - Rota's Rooter
Yeah me too, I really wondered if there would be a marked drop off for him with CBJ, obviously not!
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Z3Hawk
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Joined: 05.04.2017
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As a Hawks’ fan this will seem like I’m a “homer”. I am watching the play-offs but many games seem thunderously boring. In the West - games in the Vegas-LA series even being close are mind numbing. Why did Anaheim even bother making the play-offs? Pulling for Colorado of course - would like nothing better than arrogant Nashville to exit early. Also would give the Hawks a better First Rounder. Live hours from Winnipeg but dislike their arrogance too, so pulling for Minny. Why is it teams like Nashville and Winnipeg can get so full of themselves when they have never won anything.
In the East want anyone but Pittsburgh. Pulling for Philly. I like Taylor Hall so would like NJ to have some success - beating Tampa Bay would be a bonus. BTW Chiarelli in Edmonton a complete moron trading Hall - awful trade. |
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