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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
Cool, his coaching methods have won him cups, presidents trophy's, Gold medals

show me evidence in relation to other Gms that his methods don't work

You can't. He has accomplished a lot with his methods, whether you agree with them or not.

- Santo_44

Well its been 10 years since he last coached a team to SC victory.
And honestly, horachek could have coached that last olympic team canada to a gold medal.
Babs is a great coach....but some of his decisions...can be frustrating.
Specially when we are getting owned the last games.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
Randy Carlyle, Stanley Cup champ... says hi!
- Hockey_Reverend

2003-Led Anaheim to the best season in franchise history in 2002-03 (40-27-9-6, 95 points); the Mighty Ducks advanced to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final before losing to the New Jersey Devils.

2004-Coached Canada at the IIHF World Championship in Prague. Canada went 7-1-1 and defeated Sweden to win the gold medal. Babcock became the first coach to lead Canada to the title at the World Juniors and the World Championship.

2008-Stanley Cup with Detroit

2009-Stanley cup Final(3rd time in 7 years)

2010-Gold medal

2014- Gold medal

2017- turned a 30th place team to a playoff team

2018-leads Toronto(a 100 year franchise) to it's best season.

Made playoffs 10/10 seasons in Detroit

Made playoffs 13/15 times in his career

Show me Carlyles resume please



Disagree with the moves he makes if you want, however his methods work.

Dont believe me? Learn how to read
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
Unless Andersen steals one:

The Leafs will lose tonight. Pleks will lead the way.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

But, I am still looking forward to the game. Should be good. Hopefully I wont have to throw anything at my TV.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
You do know that Bergeron had like 1 goal in his first 20 playoff games.

Can Matthews be better, yes of course he can but don't put it all on him.

- LeafMan

We're blaming him for this and the stale pretzels.

Grrr.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
Well its been 10 years since he last coached a team to SC victory.
And honestly, horachek could have coached that last olympic team canada to a gold medal.
Babs is a great coach....but some of his decisions...can be frustrating.
Specially when we are getting owned the last games.

- Fakepartofme

Read my post

and cool, Babs still accomplished those things.

Might as well say the Leafs suck if they ever win the cup because even the Oilers won the cup in 2006.....don't downplay impressive accomplishments just because it goes against your argument
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
Unless Andersen steals one:

The Leafs will lose tonight. Pleks will lead the way.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

But, I am still looking forward to the game. Should be good. Hopefully I wont have to throw anything at my TV.

- Hockey_Reverend


rielly/hainsey/Z have a lot more to do with this mess than pleks.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
So.

Happy game everyone.
Glad to see things are ok here.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
So.

Happy game everyone.
Glad to see things are ok here.

- Fakepartofme

2 more games
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
2003-Led Anaheim to the best season in franchise history in 2002-03 (40-27-9-6, 95 points); the Mighty Ducks advanced to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final before losing to the New Jersey Devils.

2004-Coached Canada at the IIHF World Championship in Prague. Canada went 7-1-1 and defeated Sweden to win the gold medal. Babcock became the first coach to lead Canada to the title at the World Juniors and the World Championship.

2008-Stanley Cup with Detroit

2009-Stanley cup Final(3rd time in 7 years)

2010-Gold medal

2014- Gold medal

2017- turned a 30th place team to a playoff team

2018-leads Toronto(a 100 year franchise) to it's best season.

Made playoffs 10/10 seasons in Detroit

Made playoffs 13/15 times in his career

Show me Carlyles resume please



Disagree with the moves he makes if you want, however his methods work.

Dont believe me? Learn how to read

- Santo_44


I wouldn't call the last two years some great highlight in his career. Our team is really good. And those other teams were also REALLY good.

Listen, you go suck Babs off. I don't care. All I am saying is putting Leo on the first line was a mistake and now Pleks at 2 is a mistake. Simple.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 16 @ 1:02 PM ET
rielly/hainsey/Z have a lot more to do with this mess than pleks.
- Tumbleweed


Oh I agree.

Pleks is an easy target now thanks to Babs...

Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 16 @ 1:02 PM ET
2 more games
- Symba007

I think we will see more then 2. Just a hunch that we wont get swept...
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
I wouldn't call the last two years some great highlight in his career. Our team is really good. And those other teams were also REALLY good.

Listen, you go suck Babs off. I don't care. All I am saying is putting Leo on the first line was a mistake and now Pleks at 2 is a mistake. Simple.

- Hockey_Reverend


Dude, come on.

The Sabres had promising young players too but still ended up sucking.

Babs had a huge hand in making the Leafs good. It is blatantly obvious. Especially considering how horrible Kadri and Gardiner were before he got here

Just ignore the whole timeline I know you can't admit when you are wrong
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
I think we will see more then 2. Just a hunch that we wont get swept...
- Hockey_Reverend

Tonight is the game they need. If Boston takes a 3-0 lead....Leafs are toast, this is not the Caps.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
Read my post

and cool, Babs still accomplished those things.

Might as well say the Leafs suck if they ever win the cup because even the Oilers won the cup in 2006.....don't downplay impressive accomplishments just because it goes against your argument

- Santo_44

Lol
Cool.
Not downplaying any of his team accomplishments.
But lets not over sell his impact on them as well.
As i said....great coach....but stubborn and frustrating decisions at times.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
2003-Led Anaheim to the best season in franchise history in 2002-03 (40-27-9-6, 95 points); the Mighty Ducks advanced to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final before losing to the New Jersey Devils.

2004-Coached Canada at the IIHF World Championship in Prague. Canada went 7-1-1 and defeated Sweden to win the gold medal. Babcock became the first coach to lead Canada to the title at the World Juniors and the World Championship.

2008-Stanley Cup with Detroit

2009-Stanley cup Final(3rd time in 7 years)

2010-Gold medal

2014- Gold medal

2017- turned a 30th place team to a playoff team

2018-leads Toronto(a 100 year franchise) to it's best season.

Made playoffs 10/10 seasons in Detroit

Made playoffs 13/15 times in his career

Show me Carlyles resume please



Disagree with the moves he makes if you want, however his methods work.

Dont believe me? Learn how to read

- Santo_44


You made the argument that Marleau failed against Bergeron like it was completely his fault, and you're doing it again saying the only reason any team is any good is because of their coach. Level off a bit and realize Babs is a good coach but could be better. That's all anyone is saying.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
2 more games
- Symba007

Home games...yes maybe.
Hopefully not
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
You guys are all UG's at heart

When the Leafs win the cup you all will be like "yeah, but Babs had Hyman on the 1st line"

UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
Lol
Cool.
Not downplaying any of his team accomplishments.
But lets not over sell his impact on them as well.
As i said....great coach....but stubborn and frustrating decisions at times.

- Fakepartofme


Pretty much.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
Tonight is the game they need. If Boston takes a 3-0 lead....Leafs are toast, this is not the Caps.
- Symba007


Agreed. We have to win tonight or its over. I dont know, I just dont know what to expect from this team at this point. If they had the full team with Kadri I would book a win tonight. Now, with the way they have been playing and Pleks as our #2 center, who knows...

but Santo seems on board!
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 16 @ 1:07 PM ET
2 things.

1- I'd rank Provorov ahead of Werenski. I think he's better.

2- According to some Vagcouver fans, Marner wouldn't even be in the 1st round of a re-draft.

- GreatGigInTheSky

1000% agree

and holy (frank)ing poop!
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 16 @ 1:07 PM ET
You guys are all UG's at heart

When the Leafs win the cup you all will be like "yeah, but Babs had Hyman on the 1st line"

- Santo_44


Hyman is one most of us have grown to accept and even appreciate. Komarov on the other hand is 100% completely un(frank)ingacceptable.
To say Babcock can do no wrong is just sad. And comparing people to UG should be a bannable offense.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 16 @ 1:07 PM ET

I'm very disappointed at how suddenly and emphatically this season came to an end. Cause let's be honest, we're not winning 4 of the next 5
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
Agreed. We have to win tonight or its over. I dont know, I just dont know what to expect from this team at this point. If they had the full team with Kadri I would book a win tonight. Now, with the way they have been playing and Pleks as our #2 center, who knows...

but Santo seems on board!

- Hockey_Reverend

Babs is going for a defensive approach and you would prefer a fire vs fire approach....

we will see how this turns out but a few players will have to step up. The Plek line has to limit the damage and the other 3 lines have to chip in offensively.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Agreed. We have to win tonight or its over. I dont know, I just dont know what to expect from this team at this point. If they had the full team with Kadri I would book a win tonight. Now, with the way they have been playing and Pleks as our #2 center, who knows...

but Santo seems on board!

- Hockey_Reverend


We'll be okay. Pleks can redeem himself. He, like all of this goddamn team, is better than what he's shown.
Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.01.2007

Apr 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
Dude, come on.

The Sabres had promising young players too but still ended up sucking.

Babs had a huge hand in making the Leafs good. It is blatantly obvious. Especially considering how horrible Kadri and Gardiner were before he got here

Just ignore the whole timeline I know you can't admit when you are wrong

- Santo_44



I agree Kadri & Gardiner seem to have hit their potential, finally. Gardiner is a risky offensive defenseman who goofs up occasionally, and Kadri turned into a shutdown center on the 3rd line & somehow also puts up 60 points a year.

There's been good coaches before but they never got through to a lot of players, for whatever reason.

I think the same is happening in Edmonton. Good coach but a bad matchup with the current team (and horrible GM).

1 thing Babcock is really bad at, is being stubborn (or maybe good at, if that makes more sense). He takes forever to change his mind or try new, out of the box, stuff.

Yes, he knows better, we're not NHL coaches, but he's got a pattern from even before coming to Toronto, in his Detroit days. He's stubborn and very slow to change things that dont work. Its one of his pitfalls, but hey, no one is perfect & he's done more good things for the young players on this team than previous coaches.
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