mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Enough with this “elbow” leafs fans are reaching for. It was a minor hockey play on the boards. Those may get called in some instances but it wasn’t an egregious elbow. When your on the boards digging for a puck you sometimes have no choice of where your arms can go due to the glass impeding your movement. - Iggysbff
Bull(poop). Wingels had no business coming in like he did with his elbow raised up with clear intent.
You're already up 4-1 with 11 mins to go and you decide to take a little run at Marner when he's already tied up with Chara?
Frankly, I don't blame Kadri at all for reacting to the elbow though he obviously could have been less of a meathead about it. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Because you're bringing up image as if your organization has some bullpoop moral high ground. You don't and should consider backing off that garbage. Consider the images that Cooke and James Neal portrayed hitting and kneeing other players in the head? Don't go acting like you're better than anyone else because you're not. Otherwise you're right about the Pens. They are as relevant as Marchand is here. - glove_was_stuck
you're wrong.
~ulf samuelsson, probably. |
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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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If Wengels didn't go down to his knees at the last second it would have maybe been a 2 minute charging penalty. I say "maybe" because they let a couple boarding calls slide for Boston. It was really late though and it looked bad so Kadri will likely get a game. I guess Wengels gets off scott free for leading with his elbow on that hit? |
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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA Joined: 04.27.2011
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you're wrong.
~ulf samuelsson, probably. - Tumbleweed
EDIT: At least I was staying in same decade. I was like 8 or 9 years old when that happened |
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Let me guess, Leafs' fans will say the hit was fine and Kadri shouldn't be suspended. Everyone else in the universe says he should get at least a game or two...
And considering he's been suspended 3 times in his career, I'll go with the universe. |
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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA Joined: 04.27.2011
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Let me guess, Leafs' fans will say the hit was fine and Kadri shouldn't be suspended. Everyone else in the universe says he should get at least a game or two...
And considering he's been suspended 3 times in his career, I'll go with the universe. - gamisou23
You forgot to use Marchand as a deflection. |
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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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Because you're bringing up image as if your organization has some bullpoop moral high ground. You don't and should consider backing off that garbage. Consider the images that Cooke and James Neal portrayed hitting and kneeing other players in the head? Don't go acting like you're better than anyone else because you're not. Otherwise you're right about the Pens. They are as relevant as Marchand is here. - glove_was_stuck
Man cool down, take a breath. A player licking another player should get a fine & a talking to by his team mates because it's not right. Not sure how I'm acting like the bolded & ive never défended anything grubby a Pens player has done.
You say Marchand shouldn't be mentioned then tell a story about the Pens organisation? Ok then.
If you want to start with ordinary hits/moves both Pens & Bruins have skeletons in their closets like a lot of organisations. |
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plyrs99
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: ON Joined: 07.28.2007
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what is the actual real time between Kadri starting to glide, and making contact. think I saw a tweet say less then half a second (can't confirm). When Kadri starts gliding, Wingles is just starting to lean/reach for the lose puck and fall. Less then half a second later contact. - vermie22
Wow, your glasses sure are colored blue and white, are they?
I count a minimum of 3 seconds between when Kadri decided to take his run at Wingels, and at least a full second to when you say Wingels was reaching/leaning for the puck and Kadri hitting him. Kadri took a healthy run at the guy, with full intent, period. Babcock didn't throw Kadri under the bus after the game, but he also did not make excuses for the guy either.
Kadri is also a douche, and really came unglued in game 1. Sticking his knee out on Nash, crosschecking Wingels in the face earlier that period...douche. To be fair, Marchand walks that same line. |
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j_eng
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 05.18.2011
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Enough with this “elbow” leafs fans are reaching for. It was a minor hockey play on the boards. Those may get called in some instances but it wasn’t an egregious elbow. When your on the boards digging for a puck you sometimes have no choice of where your arms can go due to the glass impeding your movement. - Iggysbff
Where was the digging for the puck? Wingels skated past the puck to hit Marner, who was already being hit by Chara then turned around to grab it. It definitely was an elbow, just not the typical fly-by. Watch Marleau in front of the net too, cross check/interference should have been called there as well.
Overall, the reffing was incredibly inconsistent. There were plenty of plays that should have been called on both sides (and my blue coloured glasses think it was outweighed on the Leafs side). Kadri's 'penalty' just prior to the boarding shouldn't have been anything. Backes and Nash should have gotten some roughing penalties at points through the game, and Pollack as well. |
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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA Joined: 04.27.2011
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Man cool down, take a breath. A player licking another player should get a fine & a talking to by his team mates because it's not right. Not sure how I'm acting like the bolded & ive never défended anything grubby a Pens player has done.
You say Marchand shouldn't be mentioned then tell a story about the Pens organisation? Ok then.
If you want to start with ordinary hits/moves both Pens & Bruins have skeletons in their closets like a lot of organisations. - Aussiepenguin
You assume way too much there.
You mean use an example on why you should get off/never ever get on your "image" high horse. Yes. Exactly. |
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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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If Marchand did either of those hits, the NHL & Toronto media would be preparing for an execution at center ice before game 3... - tunmasterflex
No, he'd get fined or maybe a one game suspension. If the NHL had any interest in seriously disciplining Marchand his last suspension would have been 20 games. The guy gets a handful of fines and suspensions every year and they're always slaps on the wrist. Whatever happened to escalating discipline for repeat offenders? Marchand is the most coddled player in the league, fact. |
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j_eng
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 05.18.2011
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Let me guess, Leafs' fans will say the hit was fine and Kadri shouldn't be suspended. Everyone else in the universe says he should get at least a game or two...
And considering he's been suspended 3 times in his career, I'll go with the universe. - gamisou23
Have you read any comments until now? No one has said this. |
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Sec111
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.14.2006
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Kadri already got the 5 and a game, nothing more is warranted, play on. - vermie22
Yeah someone did |
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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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You assume way too much there.
You mean use an example on why you should get off/never ever get on your "image" high horse. Yes. Exactly. - glove_was_stuck
No high horse here. I'm assuming zero. Marchand is a grub. Nuff said. |
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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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All I ask for is consistency.
Was Kadri's hit dirty? Hell, yes.
Did Wingels target Marner's head with his elbow? Hell, yes.
And is what Marchand did a gross misconduct (no pun intended) worthy of a suspension? Hells to the yes.
Yet there's only one penalty called, and only one hearing today. - Atomic Wedgie
If Komarov really wanted to step up his agitator game he'd make a formal complaint to the league and PA about Marchand's unwanted sexual advances and harrassment. It would be ridiculous and a complete troll job but the league would have to take it seriously. Employers have been successfully sued for way less. |
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Wow, your glasses sure are colored blue and white, are they?
I count a minimum of 3 seconds between when Kadri decided to take his run at Wingels, and at least a full second to when you say Wingels was reaching/leaning for the puck and Kadri hitting him. Kadri took a healthy run at the guy, with full intent, period. Babcock didn't throw Kadri under the bus after the game, but he also did not make excuses for the guy either.
Kadri is also a douche, and really came unglued in game 1. Sticking his knee out on Nash, crosschecking Wingels in the face earlier that period...douche. To be fair, Marchand walks that same line. - plyrs99
he took a run, yes, don't know if .5 to 1 second is enough to stop at that speed when wingles starts falling. do you?
he got 5 and a game for the run. |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Bull(poop). Wingels had no business coming in like he did with his elbow raised up with clear intent.
You're already up 4-1 with 11 mins to go and you decide to take a little run at Marner when he's already tied up with Chara?
Frankly, I don't blame Kadri at all for reacting to the elbow though he obviously could have been less of a meathead about it. - mjones242
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Sec111
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.14.2006
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Fact one fans will look through rose colored glasses at their players, its part of being a fan, they also will take a harder line on opposing players or players who have in their eyes wronged their team in the past. So lets just get past that, they both deserve suspensions, however I do think that leaving your feet and contacting a defenseless player who is on his knees by targeting the head is pretty bad, I think he deserves 2 but will probably get one. Anybody have an opinion on the Anderson hit in the Columbus/Washington tilt, I do not see that as needing more.
The beauty of being neutral, my rose colored glasses are with the Isles on the first tee! |
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mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 02.01.2012
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If Komarov really wanted to step up his agitator game he'd make a formal complaint to the league and PA about Marchand's unwanted sexual advances and harrassment. It would be ridiculous and a complete troll job but the league would have to take it seriously. Employers have been successfully sued for way less. - Jeffmt
that would be hilarious |
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j_eng
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 05.18.2011
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Wow, your glasses sure are colored blue and white, are they?
I count a minimum of 3 seconds between when Kadri decided to take his run at Wingels, and at least a full second to when you say Wingels was reaching/leaning for the puck and Kadri hitting him. Kadri took a healthy run at the guy, with full intent, period. Babcock didn't throw Kadri under the bus after the game, but he also did not make excuses for the guy either.
Kadri is also a douche, and really came unglued in game 1. Sticking his knee out on Nash, crosschecking Wingels in the face earlier that period...douche. To be fair, Marchand walks that same line. - plyrs99
Deciding to take a run isn't a penalty. I agree there were a good 3 seconds where Kadri was lining up that hit, and for 2.5 seconds of that decision, Wingels was upright against the boards, then he fell unfortunately. I'm not defending the hit, I still think he 'maybe' had a chance to not hit him prone (i.e. notice the fall, and change direction of his momentum in less than 0.5 seconds) but it IS close. Ovechkin makes the same charging run at players all the time, but they are deemed clean hits. It WAS charging (or boarding), I think it was a Major (only because he was prone). I think it was a suspension (only because he was prone). But I do not see the attempt to head hunt in that, Kadri didn't plan to make him fall so he could head hunt him. |
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Jrw10
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.21.2013
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Sorry Eck, I can't be a homer on this one, Kadri hit a man in the head while he was down, I'm hoping that the league holds it to 2 games. |
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j_eng
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 05.18.2011
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Yeah someone did - Sec111
Ok, one guy did. It's certainly not the entire fanbase. |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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he took a run, yes, don't know if .5 to 1 second is enough to stop at that speed when wingles starts falling. do you? - vermie22
Please. It’s not like he was already in the air or something. The guy had tons of time to adjust and didnt. They turn and adjust on a dime in a fraction of a second all the time. |
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Doogs
Season Ticket Holder Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh , PA Joined: 09.16.2005
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Proud27
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 04.06.2018
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First time poster long time reader, here’s my take on the Kadri hit. Blatant charge, left his feet and targeted the head of a defenseless player who was on his knees along side the boards. That play is a hit with intent to injure no two ways about it. I get it’s the playoffs, original six rivalry and trying to respond to the Marner hit that just occurred, but there is no room in the game for that type of action. Me personally would like a 10 game suspension, realistically I see the NHL giving out 3-5 games. |
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