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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Apr 12 @ 10:25 AM ET
Look how great the Hawks played once Kempny was moved?

You can't question Q. His stupidity actually can be looked at as a favor to Kempny.

- TrueGrit


I would have liked to see Q ride off into the sunset after this season, but Crawford’s injury vs Kempny being traded isn’t even debatable. Would I have liked to see Kempny stay and play under a new coach, sure...but at the end of the day him being traded meant far less to team success or lack thereof than 50 missing 50+ games.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Apr 12 @ 10:33 AM ET
Hinostroza= NO

Perimeter player, has good wheels but is another smurf. He is not Jake Guentzel, or Victor Arvidsson and that's the skill set you need at a smaller size to be successful. Guentzel also plays with Sid, who is the best player on the planet. I just see another one dimensional undersized player.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 10:33 AM ET
NHL needs to get with the times. Like the NFL, a team can release a guy and take a minor dead cap hit and free up space. NHL is comical with the current setup.
- z1990z


Agreed, hamstringing teams who are trying to field the best teams possible is BS when you have teams like Arizona, Ottawa, and Carolina who have their own 'internal caps'.

If the league is so hellbent on a premier product, they should get rid of teams that produce less than they cost to the league. Ottawa is a canadian city and still couldn't sell out some playoff games last year despite having a generational player in Karlsson and several 'feel good' stories putting the team in the limelight. Arizona hasn't made the playoffs in 6 years and in their entire history has won 2 playoff series, accompanied by a revolving door of ownership and constant speculation of relocation.
Carolina has been bad for 11 years.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 10:36 AM ET
NHL needs to get with the times. Like the NFL, a team can release a guy and take a minor dead cap hit and free up space. NHL is comical with the current setup.
- z1990z


The difference is the NFL makes billions from TV Revenue and the NHL makes Millions.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
Hinostroza= NO

Perimeter player, has good wheels but is another smurf. He is not Jake Guentzel, or Victor Arvidsson and that's the skill set you need at a smaller size to be successful. Guentzel also plays with Sid, who is the best player on the planet. I just see another one dimensional undersized player.

- nickmo2699


Hinostroza = Yes

ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 10:53 AM ET
One thing I'm glad the Hawks did is shut down 19 & 50 once we were pretty much out of the playoff race. We could easily be 3 spots worse in the draft if we 'lost with pride' or some BS that wouldn't help us next year.

Now we're guaranteed at least the 10th overall pick, and that guarantees us one of these guys:
1. Rasmus Dahlin, D
2. Andrei Svechnikov, RW
3. Filip Zadina, LW
4. Brady Tkachuk, LW (Could go back to college)
5. Adam Boqvist, D
6. Oliver Wahlstrom, RW (Committed to Harvard)
7. Evan Bouchard, D
8. Quinton Hughes, D (Could go back to college)
9. Noah Dobson, D
10. Joe Veleno, C
11. Joel Farabee, LW (Committed to BU)

If they pick someone who isn't committed to college next season, they could make a decent impact on the Hawks. Next year we'll see a somewhat more progressive Q, as he knows that his job is on the line and that all hands must be on deck. All of these guys except maybe Hughes could make an impact on this middling Hawks team without getting ragdolled.

Remember the excitement when Saad made his debut? All of a sudden the Hawks were back to rolling 3 potent lines and 1 shutdown line. It could happen.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:05 AM ET
One thing I'm glad the Hawks did is shut down 19 & 50 once we were pretty much out of the playoff race. We could easily be 3 spots worse in the draft if we 'lost with pride' or some BS that wouldn't help us next year.

Now we're guaranteed at least the 10th overall pick, and that guarantees us one of these guys:
1. Rasmus Dahlin, D
2. Andrei Svechnikov, RW
3. Filip Zadina, LW
4. Brady Tkachuk, LW (Could go back to college)
5. Adam Boqvist, D
6. Oliver Wahlstrom, RW (Committed to Harvard)
7. Evan Bouchard, D
8. Quinton Hughes, D (Could go back to college)
9. Noah Dobson, D
10. Joe Veleno, C
11. Joel Farabee, LW (Committed to BU)

If they pick someone who isn't committed to college next season, they could make a decent impact on the Hawks. Next year we'll see a somewhat more progressive Q, as he knows that his job is on the line and that all hands must be on deck. All of these guys except maybe Hughes could make an impact on this middling Hawks team without getting ragdolled.

Remember the excitement when Saad made his debut? All of a sudden the Hawks were back to rolling 3 potent lines and 1 shutdown line. It could happen.

- ObeseOprah



The more I read about Noah Dobson, the more I like him.
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Apr 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
The buyout in the last CBA was put in because the cap was scheduled to drop from a pro-rated $73MM during the short 2013 season back to $68MM the next season.

Unless there is a similar drop in the next CBA (doubtful, IMO, as the owners will have received almost $1.5Billion from the new Vegas and Seattle franchises by then - NOT shareable with the players), there probably won’t be a similar buyout provision.

- StLBravesFan


Makes sense. It would really suck for the Blackhawks unless some guys really bounce back or the cap rises at a faster clip the next few seasons.

It's probably worth to wait and see though.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:26 AM ET
Heard he's the type of guy(s) they would love to add to the bottom six. Guys with speed, physicality but can also play.
- Justin Lowe


Justin is this the type of lineup that maybe the hawks would be looking for I know I have 2 holes on the 3rd line who could fill those holes sikura and ejdsell should be in Rockford developing. What would be your lineup next year if it was you running the show?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:28 AM ET
The more I read about Noah Dobson, the more I like him.
- z1990z



If the Hawks weren't drafting 1st overall he would be a solid pick.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
Agreed, hamstringing teams who are trying to field the best teams possible is BS when you have teams like Arizona, Ottawa, and Carolina who have their own 'internal caps'.

If the league is so hellbent on a premier product, they should get rid of teams that produce less than they cost to the league. Ottawa is a canadian city and still couldn't sell out some playoff games last year despite having a generational player in Karlsson and several 'feel good' stories putting the team in the limelight. Arizona hasn't made the playoffs in 6 years and in their entire history has won 2 playoff series, accompanied by a revolving door of ownership and constant speculation of relocation.
Carolina has been bad for 11 years.

- ObeseOprah


Disagree. The hard cap with no exceptions levels the playing field and allows small market low revenue teams to compete. Look at the teams that dump players Hawks, Toronto, Detroit.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
Hinostroza = Yes


- DarthKane


At the right price and with the condition that he has to win a roster spot.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
At the right price and with the condition that he has to win a roster spot.
- -Doh-



I'm not saying Vinnie is a superstar but he was scoring at a 40 point pace despite needed surgery. He's not a guy I'd overpay for but I think he's a solid fit for the 3rd line or maybe the 4th line.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:02 PM ET
Who has more fights?

A. NHL
b. MLB

https://www.si.com/extra-...d-sox-yankees-fight-video
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Apr 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
Hinostroza= NO

Perimeter player, has good wheels but is another smurf. He is not Jake Guentzel, or Victor Arvidsson and that's the skill set you need at a smaller size to be successful. Guentzel also plays with Sid, who is the best player on the planet. I just see another one dimensional undersized player.

- nickmo2699


I think Hinostroza will get some more time to show he is an effective player. I could definitely see him being moved if he fails to take the next step (which he started doing this season).

He had a unimpressive first season but when he came up this year he looked motivated to stick and played better. He faded as time went on. The question will be is that a sign of him getting comfortable with the Hawks and taking his foot off the accelerator, or like much of the core, was he coasting more so because the Hawks were out of it.

Things I noticed about him in 2018.

1) He got bumped down the lineup when he was caught coasting and not back checking.
2) He didn't really get much PP time to start when called up, but started to get some minutes on the top unit in 2018. The results were so-so and I think that might have been a missed opportunity for him to make a good impression.

I think the reality will be that he has to become more of a factor on the ice. He is fast but doesn't win a ton of physical confrontations. I think he could find himself without a role on the team if the Hawks end up acquiring more forwards (either by moving a C like Schmaltz to wing) or if other young guys start pushing for more time. I don't think the Hawks will want Hino playing on the 4th line where he doesn't fit at all.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Apr 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
I'm not saying Vinnie is a superstar but he was scoring at a 40 point pace despite needed surgery. He's not a guy I'd overpay for but I think he's a solid fit for the 3rd line or maybe the 4th line.
- DarthKane


I think it is 2nd line or 3rd line for him. He doesn't fit the bill for a good 4th liner. No sandpaper to his game.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:07 PM ET
No penalty on this - FML

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/...check-to-head-on-carrier/
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:13 PM ET
No penalty on this - FML

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/...check-to-head-on-carrier/

- riozzo


That was a nothing play, dive by Carrier.
I have to say - Malkin is still playing with no hearing on his intentional hit to Crow's head.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:17 PM ET
That was a nothing play, dive by Carrier.
I have to say - Malkin is still playing with no hearing on his intentional hit to Crow's head.

- powerenforcer



Yeah he dove and didn't return to the game.

Agree on 50.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Apr 12 @ 12:23 PM ET
That was a nothing play, dive by Carrier.
I have to say - Malkin is still playing with no hearing on his intentional hit to Crow's head.

- powerenforcer

The style of play Malkin and Marchand utilize should necessitate they play the rest of the careers with their heads on a swivel, complemented with a case of alligator arms.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:32 PM ET
The style of play Malkin and Marchand utilize should necessitate they play the rest of the careers with their heads on a swivel, complemented with a case of alligator arms.
- 35Tony0



They hit you - $500.00 and a Iced Capp from Tim Hortons.

You hit them, 10 games and a huge fine.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:42 PM ET
Alright boys, I put together a list of the top 32 prospects and who each one reasonably compares to:

1. Rasmus Dahlin, D, Comparison: Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Hedman
2. Andrei Svechnikov, RW, Comparison: Thomas Vanek, Alexander Radulov
3. Filip Zadina, LW, Comparison: Filip Forsberg, Mike Hoffman
4. Brady Tkachuk, LW, Comparison: Matthew Tkachuk, Wayne Simmonds
5. Adam Boqvist, D, Comparison: Hampus Lindholm, Tyson Barrie
6. Oliver Wahlstrom, RW, Comparison: James van Riemsdyk, TJ Oshie
7. Evan Bouchard, D, Comparison: Matt Niskanen, Jacob Slavin
8. Quinton Hughes, D, Comparison: Ryan Ellis, Josh Morrissey
9. Noah Dobson, D, Comparison: Colin Miller, Jeff Petry
10. Joe Veleno, C, Comparison: Mikael Backlund, Tyler Bozak
11. Joel Farabee, LW, Comparison: Nik Ehlers, Jonathan Huberdeau
12. Barret Hayton, C, Comparison: Kyle Turris, Sam Reinhart
13. Ty Smith, D, Comparison: Morgan Reilly
14. Grigori Denisenko, LW, Comparison: William Nylander
15. Rasmus Kupari, C, Comparison: Sebastian Aho
16. Isac Lundestrom, C, Comparison: Travis Konecny
17. Martin Kaut, RW, Comparison: Michael Frolik
18. Jesperi Kotkaniemi, C, Comparison: Sean Coutourier
19: Jared McIsaac, D, Comparison: Josh Manson
20: Ryan Merkley, D, Comparison: Justin Schultz
21. Bode Wilde, D, Comparison: Jake Gardiner
22: Serron Noel, RW, Comparison: Blake Wheeler
23. Alexander Alexyev, D, Comparison: Radko Gudas
24. Jacob Bernard-Docker, D, Comparison: Ron Hainsey
25. Ryan McLeod, C, Comparison: Ryan Kesler
26. Adam Ginning, D, Comparison: Brooks Orpik
27. Akil Thomas, C, Comparison: Mikael Backlund
28. Denoit-Olivier Groulx, C, Comparison: James Neal
29. Dominik Bokk, LW, Comparison: Alexander Semin
30. Jonathan Tychonick, D, Comparison: Tyson Barrie
31. K’Andre Miller, D, Comparison: Darnell Nurse
32. Jacob Olofsson, C, Comparison: Carl Soderberg


To see full write ups of the top twelve: http://www.hockeybuzz.com...post_id=18641257#18641257


The Hawks will in all likelihood be getting two of these guys.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Apr 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
Alright boys, I put together a list of the top 32 prospects and who each one reasonably compares to:

1. Rasmus Dahlin, D, Comparison: Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Hedman
2. Andrei Svechnikov, RW, Comparison: Thomas Vanek, Alexander Radulov
3. Filip Zadina, LW, Comparison: Filip Forsberg, Mike Hoffman
4. Brady Tkachuk, LW, Comparison: Matthew Tkachuk, Wayne Simmonds
5. Adam Boqvist, D, Comparison: Hampus Lindholm, Tyson Barrie
6. Oliver Wahlstrom, RW, Comparison: James van Riemsdyk, TJ Oshie
7. Evan Bouchard, D, Comparison: Matt Niskanen, Jacob Slavin
8. Quinton Hughes, D, Comparison: Ryan Ellis, Josh Morrissey
9. Noah Dobson, D, Comparison: Colin Miller, Jeff Petry
10. Joe Veleno, C, Comparison: Mikael Backlund, Tyler Bozak
11. Joel Farabee, LW, Comparison: Nik Ehlers, Jonathan Huberdeau
12. Barret Hayton, C, Comparison: Kyle Turris, Sam Reinhart
13. Ty Smith, D, Comparison: Morgan Reilly
14. Grigori Denisenko, LW, Comparison: William Nylander
15. Rasmus Kupari, C, Comparison: Sebastian Aho
16. Isac Lundestrom, C, Comparison: Travis Konecny
17. Martin Kaut, RW, Comparison: Michael Frolik
18. Jesperi Kotkaniemi, C, Comparison: Sean Coutourier
19: Jared McIsaac, D, Comparison: Josh Manson
20: Ryan Merkley, D, Comparison: Justin Schultz
21. Bode Wilde, D, Comparison: Jake Gardiner
22: Serron Noel, RW, Comparison: Blake Wheeler
23. Alexander Alexyev, D, Comparison: Radko Gudas
24. Jacob Bernard-Docker, D, Comparison: Ron Hainsey
25. Ryan McLeod, C, Comparison: Ryan Kesler
26. Adam Ginning, D, Comparison: Brooks Orpik
27. Akil Thomas, C, Comparison: Mikael Backlund
28. Denoit-Olivier Groulx, C, Comparison: James Neal
29. Dominik Bokk, LW, Comparison: Alexander Semin
30. Jonathan Tychonick, D, Comparison: Tyson Barrie
31. K’Andre Miller, D, Comparison: Darnell Nurse
32. Jacob Olofsson, C, Comparison: Carl Soderberg


To see full write ups of the top twelve: http://www.hockeybuzz.com...post_id=18641257#18641257


The Hawks will in all likelihood be getting two of these guys.

- ObeseOprah

I gotta say this has been a pretty impressive player summary and evaluation you've done. Nice work and thanks.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 12 @ 12:58 PM ET
I'm not saying Vinnie is a superstar but he was scoring at a 40 point pace despite needed surgery. He's not a guy I'd overpay for but I think he's a solid fit for the 3rd line or maybe the 4th line.
- DarthKane


I agree up to a point.
- What do you think is the right price? (not overpaying) imho $1mil max.
- Does he need to win a roster spot in camp? imho yes.
- Is he a C, RW, LW or is he plug and play where we need him. imho Not C. Either wing on 3rd or 4th line.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Apr 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
Antoine Roussel is also an UFA. He may be a weiner but, he would be our weiner.
- Rota's Rooter


I hate him! Let’s get him!
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