Hence the Lottery Ball in my follow-up post. If Anisimov can be traded for a 1st round pick or high upside young defesenman, I wouldn't hesitate. It's going to be a long rebuild, and Anisimov is already too slow and pushing 30.
- EnzoD

Oh, sounds easy then.

Oh, sounds easy then.
- TTtime

Do you disagree with my assessment of the team's situation moving forward?

before we get so enamored with trading anisimov:

he has 20 goals with 11 on the pp; most of those are within 5 feet of the net off rebounds and tips; kane has 5 but he is your set up guy with 20 pp assists

look at many of the other goals they score and you see 15 in the picture (just like shaw) providing a screen..ya don't get assists for those; the guy probably contributes to 5-7 additional goals

they don't have ANYBODY..who can to the net and produce like that...and spare me; know its not hayden..

Do you disagree with my assessment of the team's situation moving forward?
- EnzoD

unequivocally

Unless there's a specific plan to replace Anisimov I wouldn't trade him. AA is one of the only guys that consistently parks himself in front of the net. Injuries are certainly a concern, but when he's healthy Anisimov is a solid contributor.
- DarthKane

You treat Anisimov as a contract dump. If it is possible to make a hockey trade make it - maybe take a draft choice and/or prospect. Anisimov has some value left - not as much as last summer when he should’ve been moved - but some. Wait and he will have none. On 5 on 5 he is too slow to be effective. On 5 on 5 he should play on 3rd or 4th line. Can’t win face-offs. All things looked at he receives far too much money. Another very serious issue is he misses lots of games with injury every year. He is not missed when he is out.

before we get so enamored with trading anisimov:

he has 20 goals with 11 on the pp; most of those are within 5 feet of the net off rebounds and tips; kane has 5 but he is your set up guy with 20 pp assists

look at many of the other goals they score and you see 15 in the picture (just like shaw) providing a screen..ya don't get assists for those; the guy probably contributes to 5-7 additional goals

they don't have ANYBODY..who can to the net and produce like that...and spare me; know its not hayden..
- bogiedoc

I agree. AA is a legit PP producer. Dont move him unless its a cant turn it down type of deal.

I agree. AA is a legit PP producer. Dont move him unless its a cant turn it down type of deal.
- z1990z

The Hawks’ PP has been absolutely awful. This fact doesn’t change because Anisimov leads in PP goals. The reason that the Hawks’ PP has trouble is there is too little quick movement with too little of the ice surface being used. The result is rarely are shooting lanes created. The fact that Anisimov leads in PP goals is NOT a good thing.

Oh boy. Nothing like pinning your hopes on a guy who took 5 years to make it to the top league in Sweden which is roughly an equal to the ECHL. Not to mention his skating prowess has been compared to Dennis Rasmussen. Guy's a nothing.
- TTtime

The kid is 22.

As long as he's NHL ready then sure, but if he's not and Stan has traded AA then the team is even worse off down the middle.
- DarthKane

You have to really like what you receive if you trade him. Trading him over salary concern should not be an issue if you keep as many of these dmen at low salaries currently here. Maybe next trade deadline. And Bowman has to start drafting some larger players and some players with grit. If he doesn't bring in more grit and, hopefully, size for next season, we are going to get pushed around a lot. Maybe then McDonough will seriously question Bowman's agenda to improve the team

unequivocally
- TTtime

before we get so enamored with trading anisimov:

he has 20 goals with 11 on the pp; most of those are within 5 feet of the net off rebounds and tips; kane has 5 but he is your set up guy with 20 pp assists

look at many of the other goals they score and you see 15 in the picture (just like shaw) providing a screen..ya don't get assists for those; the guy probably contributes to 5-7 additional goals

they don't have ANYBODY..who can to the net and produce like that...and spare me; know its not hayden..
- bogiedoc

It doesn't matter what any of us want because it sure as hell looks like Stan Bowman is going to bring back essentially the exact same roster next year and hope for the best....

You treat Anisimov as a contract dump. If it is possible to make a hockey trade make it - maybe take a draft choice and/or prospect. Anisimov has some value left - not as much as last summer when he should’ve been moved - but some. Wait and he will have none. On 5 on 5 he is too slow to be effective. On 5 on 5 he should play on 3rd or 4th line. Can’t win face-offs. All things looked at he receives far too much money. Another very serious issue is he misses lots of games with injury every year. He is not missed when he is out.
- Z3Hawk

That was my viewpoint. Now i am guessing he can hold about the same value next trade deadline because of WHAT HE CAN DO AS OPPOSED TO issues like skating and face offs. Playoff bound teams will overpay for net front presence and a veteran big center like AA both now and next trade deadline....unless he slows down a lot they can still get a good return next deadline.

Unfortunately I seriously question if Bowman trades for a power forward or if he drafts one whom is ready. He will use Hayden and AA for size. You can hope but don't bet on him trading a young still developing jewel he drafted - Schmaultz, DeBrincat, Sikula - until they are farther developed/producing.

Trading skill for grit/size is something i think he is averse to. I believe he wanted Panarin out and accepted the big size churning Saad thinking that alone is enough size in his top six. Wrong, Stan. Not with Toews playing like a p*ssy more often than not.

Bowman would rather find such a commidity later in draft or a f/a. Size is obviously Bowman's last concern. It may wind up costing him a job down the road.

That was my viewpoint. Now i am guessing he can hold about the same value next trade deadline because of WHAT HE CAN DO AS OPPOSED TO issues like skating and face offs. Playoff bound teamns will overpay for net ftont presence and a veteran like AA both now and next trade deadline....unless he slows down a lot they can still het a good return next deadline.

Unfortunately I seriously question if Bowman trades for a power forward or if he drafts one whom is ready. He will use Hayden and AA for size. You can hope but don't bet on him trading a young still developing jewel he drafted - Schmaultz, DeBrincat, Sikula - until they are farther developed/producing.

Trading skill for grit/size is something i think he is averse to. I believe he wanted Panarin out and accepted the big size churning Saad thinking that alone is enough size in his top six. Wrong, Stan. Not with Toews playing like a p*ssy more often than not.

Bowman would rather find such a commidity later in draft or a f/a. Size is obviously Bowman's last concern. It may wind up costing him a job down the road.
- jhawk59

it's one thing to play soft like 19 has this year, but his skating/puck skill are the bigger concerns for me. Plenty of guys play soft but have speed/skill to compensate for it. Toews has been soft and slow. Again, what about Stan Bowman's track record makes you think he has the savvy to pull off a legitimate hockey trade that helps the team next year?

it's one thing to play soft like 19 has this year, but his skating/puck skill are the bigger concerns for me. Plenty of guys play soft but have speed/skill to compensate for it. Toews has been soft and slow. Again, what about Stan Bowman's track record makes you think he has the savvy to pull off a legitimate hockey trade that helps the team next year?
- EnzoD

I am a bit shaky with him but i cannot blame....i understand the rationale behind his two big trades last summer.

Just to ensure you grasp the thinking behind the Murphy trade......Hjalmarsson traded at a time when now or soon his value might start decreasing due to his style of play and expected injuries. I thought Murphy skated better than he does. I hoped Samuelson could turn his career around and he could be a second or third pair. Get rid of bad habits, grow confidance, a few dirty tricks was whastt i thought the things Samuelson could help. Still think third pair but not as good ad i thought he could be. I know they were high on Dauphin. Stan looking for candidates to replace what Kreuger did, or a similar player.

The drafting has been ok. The refusal to address size and grit issue...i hoped he would see the light ...finally. Someone else might be a better GM going forward. But do you have someone in mind who would do better. Most GM's gamble and not every move is a win win.

Hence the Lottery Ball in my follow-up post. If Anisimov can be traded for a 1st round pick or high upside young defesenman, I wouldn't hesitate. It's going to be a long rebuild, and Anisimov is already too slow and pushing 30.
- EnzoD

I question if you would get that much for him..A #2 round maybe. Done at trade deadline when a team determines how AA could really help them in playoff run and beyond. Supply and demand: how many others can do what he does because a coach will try to minimize what he isn't good at..Switch between second and third lines, but may be key insertion for line juggling at times. He had produced at times for sure with Kane.

The information about how long it took him to develop in Sweden - whom is that. He had been with NYR and Columbus before arriving here. Besides, it is all about what you have been and expected to provide going forward. Taking five years to develop is now immaterial

I question if you would get that much for him..A #2 round maybe. Done at trade deadline when a team determines how AA could really help them in playoff run and beyond. Supply and demand: how many others can do what he does because a coach will try to minimize what he isn't good at..Switch between second and third lines, but may be key insertion for line juggling at times. He had produced at times for sure with Kane.

The information about how long it took him to develop in Sweden - whom is that. He had been with NYR and Columbus before arriving here. Besides, it is all about what you have been and expected to provide going forward. Taking five years to develop is now immaterial
- jhawk59

I believe TuevoTime was talking about Edjsell.

Teravainen scores #20!

A couple nights ago K Hayes #20 as well.

Here is an interesting call: who gets more points next year between those two and Hinostroza

Couid the Hawks swing a deal for Tavares - not easy but-

I believe TuevoTime was talking about Edjsell.
- EnzoD[/quote

Correction in text omitted

It is still immaterial IF it took fve years for Edjsell to advance if he works out later in NHL
Late add: he probably had to overcome coordination issues in his earlier years.

It doesn't matter what any of us want because it sure as hell looks like Stan Bowman is going to bring back essentially the exact same roster next year and hope for the best....
- EnzoD

thats more fan fear than reality...i suspect there maybe more new faces than we think...and some suprises

i have nothing to base it on other than not all the holes that exist can be solved with better years from some players

this team has under gone alot of turnover since 2015...i can see why he wants to establish some stability and player continuity..

2 big ifs: cap increase to 80 mil and getting rid of hossa's contract...

if that happens...they should have some space to add a couple of decent players in the 4 mildo area at least; maybe more..

at present i think vinny, duclair, hayden get resigned

jurco bouma and sharp are gone

Teravainen scores #20!

A couple nights ago K Hayes #20 as well.

Here is an interesting call: who gets more points next year between those two and Hinostroza
- jhawk59

Hawks have limited options which is why Hinostroza is getting a long look, Hinostroza doesn't make the Rangers or the Canes, he's a minor leaguer whom the Hawks PR department is trying to pound down the fans throats because they have no one else. He has to score more goals like DeBrincat and Schmaltz. Guys like him that fly around the ice and score 8 goals a year are a dime a dozen. I'll take Teravanien( whom never should have been dealt) and/or Kevin Hayes over Hinostroza.

Natural stat trick is one place that has it. Hawks are below average in that regard because they give up a lot of those types of chances. Just look for HDFC HDFA and HDCF%. They also show the # of HD goals for and against.
- breadbag

Thank you!

Couid the Hawks swing a deal for Tavares - not easy but-
- Colbyboy

he is UFA...he wants to go to a contender (i don't think thats with the hawks); he will looking for 7 plus for 7 years at least...age 27...

sorry no...hawks have no business adding another one of those contracts...

Hawks have limited options which is why Hinostroza is getting a long look, Hinostroza doesn't make the Rangers or the Canes, he's a minor leaguer whom the Hawks PR department is trying to pound down the fans throats because they have no one else. He has to score more goals like DeBrincat and Schmaltz. Guys like him that fly around the ice and score 8 goals a year are a dime a dozen. I'll take Teravanien( whom never should have been dealt) and/or Kevin Hayes over Hinostroza.
- wonthecup10

To be fair to Vinny, he is on a 50 point scoring pace over 82 games. A lot of that has been playing 3rd line minutes so he has NHL talent. I'd like to move him for legit NHL defenders, if given the opportunity.

he is UFA...he wants to go to a contender (i don't think thats with the hawks); he will looking for 7 plus for 7 years at least...age 27...

sorry no...hawks have no business adding another one of those contracts...
- bogiedoc

Seabrook to NYI for the rights to negotiate with Tavares before free agency.