DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Right, but at the deadline, its no surprise that nobody traded for him - BlazinMike
Sharp was a decent veteran insurance plan, but it appears he doesn't have much left in the tank. Hopefully the Hawks keep Sharpie on in a front-office role starting next season.
On the bright side, I don't think there are any former Hawks that are pending UFAs. Hopefully this is the end of bringing back former Blackhawks that are past their prime.
But speaking about bringing back former Blackhawks, I wouldn't mind Stan taking a shot at getting Motte back. Vancouver would likely rather have draft picks so draft him for a 2019 5th. Motte is still waiver exempt so he can be sent to Rockford if needed. |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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I liked what Bowman got back yesterday.
Ryan Hartman starting in the series vs Nashville lost whatever value he had. Fans were hoping for Shaw light and he was far from it. This year being unable to capitalize on numerous chances when playing with Kane, other skilled players. Wingels gets a chance at a cup, and Kempny proved to be a bust.
What I did not like from Bowman was his presser.....talking about veterans finding their form again.......In regards to 2/7/19 who have all regressed over the last 3 years what is Bowman expecting there? Truly? Isn't that the definition of insanity of wanting a different result given the same team? Maybe the younger guys take another step forward but before we ASSUME 12/48 become legit guys to rely on.....see Ryan Hartman.
If I'm the Hawks I'm ALL IN on Karlsson and then I ship out Keith and essentially trade out the 2. You have 2, 1st round picks....this team needs to get younger, and faster on the back end. Keith does not initiate offense anywhere near the level Karlsson does, and a team like Toronto may give you back a nice young F and some picks for Keith depending if they can't make it out of the triangle of death with Boston and Tampa this spring.
I also get a sense that neither Q or Stan are going anywhere, but time will tell.....after last summer's trades of Panarin and Hammer, Stan truly can't do much worse. |
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z1990z
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Location: NW USA Joined: 02.09.2012
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The last guy who wore 36 was MVP of the 2010 playoffs in my view. It was a joke he didn't get it. He was dominant against every line he played. He shut down the Joe Thornton line and shut down the Mike Richards/Jeff Carter line in the Cup finals. The Brierre/Lleno line killed us in the Philly series, but that wasn't against Bolland's line. His defensive play controlled the Hawks Cup run. OH YEA, Bolland also scored 16 points in 22 games during the POs that year.
May I also add that because Toews won the MVP that year (yes Toews played great) it cost the Hawks Andrew Ladd. I think he stays in Chicago if Toews doesn't get that MVP bonus. - kwolf68
Now that is some good stuff. Bolland had Thornton so po'd he was slashing/wacking him even before the face off. |
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kwolf68
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Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA Joined: 12.18.2010
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Now that is some good stuff. Bolland had Thornton so po'd he was slashing/wacking him even before the face off. - z1990z
Bolly was incredible. Couldn't win a faceoff to save his life, but I think he liked it that way. LOL....sad the back wouldn't cooperate. |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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I liked what Bowman got back yesterday.
Ryan Hartman starting in the series vs Nashville lost whatever value he had. Fans were hoping for Shaw light and he was far from it. This year being unable to capitalize on numerous chances when playing with Kane, other skilled players. Wingels gets a chance at a cup, and Kempny proved to be a bust.
What I did not like from Bowman was his presser.....talking about veterans finding their form again.......In regards to 2/7/19 who have all regressed over the last 3 years what is Bowman expecting there? Truly? Isn't that the definition of insanity of wanting a different result given the same team? Maybe the younger guys take another step forward but before we ASSUME 12/48 become legit guys to rely on.....see Ryan Hartman.
If I'm the Hawks I'm ALL IN on Karlsson and then I ship out Keith and essentially trade out the 2. You have 2, 1st round picks....this team needs to get younger, and faster on the back end. Keith does not initiate offense anywhere near the level Karlsson does, and a team like Toronto may give you back a nice young F and some picks for Keith depending if they can't make it out of the triangle of death with Boston and Tampa this spring.
I also get a sense that neither Q or Stan are going anywhere, but time will tell.....after last summer's trades of Panarin and Hammer, Stan truly can't do much worse. - SteveRain
The fact that people were wanting a first round pick to be a lite version of a 5th round pick should show you the value we got back for Hartman. Yeah, Shaw was way better than a 5th rounder should be, but Hartman was not as good as a first rounder should be (yet). |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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I liked what Bowman got back yesterday.
Ryan Hartman starting in the series vs Nashville lost whatever value he had. Fans were hoping for Shaw light and he was far from it. This year being unable to capitalize on numerous chances when playing with Kane, other skilled players. Wingels gets a chance at a cup, and Kempny proved to be a bust.
What I did not like from Bowman was his presser.....talking about veterans finding their form again.......In regards to 2/7/19 who have all regressed over the last 3 years what is Bowman expecting there? Truly? Isn't that the definition of insanity of wanting a different result given the same team? Maybe the younger guys take another step forward but before we ASSUME 12/48 become legit guys to rely on.....see Ryan Hartman.
If I'm the Hawks I'm ALL IN on Karlsson and then I ship out Keith and essentially trade out the 2. You have 2, 1st round picks....this team needs to get younger, and faster on the back end. Keith does not initiate offense anywhere near the level Karlsson does, and a team like Toronto may give you back a nice young F and some picks for Keith depending if they can't make it out of the triangle of death with Boston and Tampa this spring.
I also get a sense that neither Q or Stan are going anywhere, but time will tell.....after last summer's trades of Panarin and Hammer, Stan truly can't do much worse. - SteveRain
2/7/19 and even 88 have room to improve. Kane might be the only one still capable of having a career season but the others can definitely get better. They may not (and likely won't) return to their prime but they can be better.
There't no reason to believe that the likely of Schmaltz, Hinostroza and DeBrincat won't be better next season. Hayden and Sikura will likely be the next group of rookies to fill our the roster.
Something needs to be done with the power play, that the the defense should be the focus of the Hawks off-season plan. |
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Location: VA Joined: 10.05.2015
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While his play hasn't been good,I think he still has some value in teaching younger guys. No question he was helping DeBrincat learn earlier this season. If he is having a positive impact on the young guys, I'm fine with him playing. - breadbag
I agree. He plays the game the right way. He plays with speed. He has some physicality. He has 7 goals and 9 assists, playing only 13 minutes per night on LW and RW sometimes with non-scoring linemates. He started scoring goals with Debrincat on his line and almost immediately they were separated.He probably is a good guy on the bench and in the locker room. I would not mind him playing, maybe rest him in back to backs. Would you rather have a young player learn from Sharp or Jurco? |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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2/7/19 and even 88 have room to improve. Kane might be the only one still capable of having a career season but the others can definitely get better. They may not (and likely won't) return to their prime but they can be better.
There't no reason to believe that the likely of Schmaltz, Hinostroza and DeBrincat won't be better next season. Hayden and Sikura will likely be the next group of rookies to fill our the roster.
Something needs to be done with the power play, that the the defense should be the focus of the Hawks off-season plan. - DarthKane
If Dineen is solely responsible for the PP, he needs to go. It is abysmal. |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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The fact that people were wanting a first round pick to be a lite version of a 5th round pick should show you the value we got back for Hartman. Yeah, Shaw was way better than a 5th rounder should be, but Hartman was not as good as a first rounder should be (yet). - JRoenick97
30th overall picks:
2010 - Brock Nelson - 379 games - 178 points (.46 per game)
2011 - Rickard Rackell - 295 games - 180 points (.61 per game)
2012 - Tanner Pearson - 289 games - 133 points (.46 per game)
2013 - Ryan Hartman - 141 games - 57 points (.40 per game)
2014 - John Quenneville - 14 games - 4 points (not useful)
2009 was a D-man (Despres who was great, but too many head injuries). 2008 was a goalie. 2007 was another d-man who never played. Hartmans production is a bit low for a 30th pick. 2018-19 will be a real defining year for him. |
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z1990z
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Location: NW USA Joined: 02.09.2012
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If Dineen is solely responsible for the PP, he needs to go. It is abysmal. - JRoenick97
Different AC but same HC all these years and the PP still is awful. Survey says.... Q
That said, when the Hawks are really playing well its the PK that is top 10. We have always had an average PP, but the last two years have been brutal. Could be who Q keeps trotting out there for the PP too. |
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Popsghostly
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Location: Wheaton, IL Joined: 08.11.2017
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Now that is some good stuff. Bolland had Thornton so po'd he was slashing/wacking him even before the face off. - z1990z
I also recall Bolland taking out Mike Richards (when there was something still left in him) early in the Kings series in Western Conference Final in 2013. Helped us greatly on the way to the Cup that year. Miss that guy. Darn that cap lol... |
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z1990z
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Location: NW USA Joined: 02.09.2012
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I also recall Bolland taking out Mike Richards (when there was something still left in him) early in the Kings series in Western Conference Final in 2013. Helped us greatly on the way to the Cup that year. Miss that guy. Darn that cap lol... - Popsghostly
We sure have had some power house teams. Still think the 2013 regular season was pure magic. All those wins. Set the record. Presidents trophy and the Cup. FNA |
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I agree. He plays the game the right way. He plays with speed. He has some physicality. He has 7 goals and 9 assists, playing only 13 minutes per night on LW and RW sometimes with non-scoring linemates. He started scoring goals with Debrincat on his line and almost immediately they were separated.He probably is a good guy on the bench and in the locker room. I would not mind him playing, maybe rest him in back to backs. Would you rather have a young player learn from Sharp or Jurco? - -Doh-
Sharp is not part of our future and that is all we need to think about the rest of what is left of this season.
Sharp or Jurco? Answer--Neither |
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Location: VA Joined: 10.05.2015
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2/7/19 and even 88 have room to improve. Kane might be the only one still capable of having a career season but the others can definitely get better. They may not (and likely won't) return to their prime but they can be better.
There't no reason to believe that the likely of Schmaltz, Hinostroza and DeBrincat won't be better next season. Hayden and Sikura will likely be the next group of rookies to fill our the roster.
Something needs to be done with the power play, that the the defense should be the focus of the Hawks off-season plan. - DarthKane
I agree. Your "stars" will look better when the rest of the team looks better. If Crow is healthy and on top of his game (or if he goes on LTIR you could sign Raanta in the off season). Forsberg should get plenty of playing time the rest of this year and I think he will develop into a good backup. You re-sign Rutta. You now have enough cap room to sign (or enough assets to trade for) a top pairing defender. That slots down the rest of your D. The young forwards should (and absolutely need to) improve/progress. You add Sikura. The Hawks could be appreciably better next season. I am not overly optimistic or overly pessimistic. It is not hard to see them making the playoffs next year. |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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Different AC but same HC all these years and the PP still is awful. Survey says.... Q
That said, when the Hawks are really playing well its the PK that is top 10. We have always had an average PP, but the last two years have been brutal. Could be who Q keeps trotting out there for the PP too. - z1990z
2015-16 hawks has the 2nd best PP in the league. 2013-14 they were 10th. Dineen was hired summer 2014 so his first year was junk (20th) but we won the cup. His second year was amazing (2nd) and we won nothing. Last year and this year it's junk again and we win nothing. SO it's not really which AC or players it would seem. One year with Panarin was great, the other sucked. |
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Location: VA Joined: 10.05.2015
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Sharp is not part of our future and that is all we need to think about the rest of what is left of this season.
Sharp or Jurco? Answer--Neither - 67hawks
Sharp is not part of your future. But he could mentor or be a role model for players that are our future.
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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Sharp is not part of our future and that is all we need to think about the rest of what is left of this season.
Sharp or Jurco? Answer--Neither - 67hawks
Highmore or Hayden |
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If Dineen is solely responsible for the PP, he needs to go. It is abysmal. - JRoenick97
Yes
Hopefully he does not talk his way out of it this off season again. |
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z1990z
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Location: NW USA Joined: 02.09.2012
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2/7/19 and even 88 have room to improve. Kane might be the only one still capable of having a career season but the others can definitely get better. They may not (and likely won't) return to their prime but they can be better.
There't no reason to believe that the likely of Schmaltz, Hinostroza and DeBrincat won't be better next season. Hayden and Sikura will likely be the next group of rookies to fill our the roster.
Something needs to be done with the power play, that the the defense should be the focus of the Hawks off-season plan. - DarthKane
Yes the D needs to be the focus. And then there is the goal tender concern. Is CC healthy? Is Forsberg a guy we can lean on for extended periods again? Between the two I go for D first. We need another top 4 guy. How to get him and pay for him is another issue. |
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Location: VA Joined: 10.05.2015
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We sure have had some power house teams. Still think the 2013 regular season was pure magic. All those wins. Set the record. Presidents trophy and the Cup. FNA - z1990z
And a short season. |
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Davewn
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Location: West Des Moines, IA Joined: 12.16.2015
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And a short season. - -Doh-
With a lot of games crammed in there. Emery was an unsung hero, shared the Jennings with Crow.
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T K A C H U K........ this June???? And let the rest just happen , and this STH will be all good! In the mean time, let’s see some kids! |
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z1990z
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Location: NW USA Joined: 02.09.2012
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T K A C H U K........ this June???? And let the rest just happen , and this STH will be all good! In the mean time, let’s see some kids! - wonthecup10
Isn't he like a top 5 guy in the draft? We need to trade up hard to have a shot at him. Or will Stan say he needs another D. Which we do. |
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pdx2ord
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Location: Portland, OR Joined: 09.02.2015
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EnzoD
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Location: Denver, CO Joined: 02.19.2014
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Forward group is not an issue, especially with the additions of Hayden, Sikura (if the hype is legit), and the growth of Vinny to almost. 60 point full season scoring pace. Debrincat and Schmaltz have been great for their 1st and 2nd seasons and you see flashes of ability with Duclair (but want more consistency). Kampf looks to be a legit 200ft bottom 6 center. All that is great but there NEEDS to be significant changes on the backend.
Keith-??
??-Murphy
??-Seabrook
Filling in those ??s with some combination of the same guys from this year and why would you expect much different results? Maybe Forsling takes another step forward or Jokiharju shows he's a real high end talent and makes the team. There are going to still be huge growing pains with the guys in the system back there again. Combine that with Seabrook's deficiencies, Murphy is still questionable at times, and Keith will be 35....Im expecting another Non-playoff year. That's not even considering the goalie situation..... |
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