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bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
what I rememberer reading about him is that he was confused about this role. If the Preds give him some things to focus on, he might do well.
- matt_ahrens



this has been my point in previous posts; Q has been running him and other guys up and down the line-up the last 2 years; messing around with the young guys; even had hartman at center; that he is not...
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
I just don't buy into the confusion crap. Is it more he did not like his bottom 6 role?
- riozzo


What is he 23, playing in the same system? Maybe the light comes on eventually, Hawks obviously done
phantasmo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.13.2016

Feb 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
It will be interesting to see how Hartman fairs in Slashville. If he is someone that p.o's the coaching staff and upper mgmt, he might not last too long. The Preds are in their window.....you always hope to add chemistry and character at the TDL....maybe SB knows what he was doing.....
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Feb 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
What’s solid about it? They got a 1st that’s basically a 2nd, a giant 22 year old Swede who isn’t even good enough To play in the Swedish Elite League and has never even sniffed North American Hockey. Plus they exchanged a 5th for a 4th, which is basically a wash, and not worth talking about.

To sum up, they got a guy who will likely never play a single meaningful game in NA and a late 1st rounder for a young, versatile, gritty, NHL caliber player.

Time for stan and Q to fade into the sunset if you ask me.

- Ogilthorpe2


Everyone hoped Hartman would become Shaw 2.0.

He didn't, and he won't. Plays too recklessly and is bottom six grit at best. To get a first round pick in exchange for him is value enough in my book, even if only for trade value. The rest is gravy if anything comes of it.


BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
It will be interesting to see how Hartman fairs in Slashville. If he is someone that p.o's the coaching staff and upper mgmt, he might not last too long. The Preds are in their window.....you always hope to add chemistry and character at the TDL....maybe SB knows what he was doing.....
- phantasmo


And this might just help Hartman get his act together
phantasmo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.13.2016

Feb 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
And this might just help Hartman get his act together
- BetweenTheDots


Absolutely! Changes in scenery can be great for both parties. Loved the effort and creativity on the ice. Did not appreciate what Hartman had going between the ears at times but still a young guy with potential
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
I think it's a fair deal, but again I wouldn't judge the deal in isolation. How does Ejdsell pan out? Does Stan use the extra first round pick to move up. Like I said, I would have preferred to keep Hartman but this isn't a bad deal.
- DarthKane

He’s already 22 and not even playing in a top European league....he doesn’t pan into anything. He’s a nothing....a nobody.

We traded a former 30th overall pick (who can help this team now) for what will likely be the 31st overall pick (who likely won’t be of any help for at least 2 years)

It’s a bad deal because Hartman will likely flourish under a coach who doesn’t suffer from chronic headuptheassitis, and Edjsell will never play in the NHL
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Feb 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
Everyone hoped Hartman would become Shaw 2.0.

He didn't, and he won't. Plays too recklessly and is bottom six grit at best. To get a first round pick in exchange for him is value enough in my book, even if only for trade value. The rest is gravy if anything comes of it.

- Return of the Roar


Agreed on Hartman. If the draft is as deep as some are saying the first round pick is a good return.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
He’s already 22 and not even playing in a top European league....he doesn’t pan into anything. He’s a nothing....a nobody.

We traded a former 30th overall pick (who can help this team now) for what will likely be the 31st overall pick (who likely won’t be of any help for at least 2 years)

It’s a bad deal because Hartman will likely flourish under a coach who doesn’t suffer from chronic headuptheassitis, and Edjsell will never play in the NHL

- Ogilthorpe2


Looking up this word had trouble finding it🤣🤣🤣🤣
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
What’s solid about it? They got a 1st that’s basically a 2nd, a giant 22 year old Swede who isn’t even good enough To play in the Swedish Elite League and has never even sniffed North American Hockey. Plus they exchanged a 5th for a 4th, which is basically a wash, and not worth talking about.

To sum up, they got a guy who will likely never play a single meaningful game in NA and a late 1st rounder for a young, versatile, gritty, NHL caliber player.

Time for stan and Q to fade into the sunset if you ask me.

- Ogilthorpe2


Yes it will be funny next year at this time when those supporting this deal will be bashing Bowman in typical fashion for this deal when it ends up as a whole lot of nothing while Hartman is doing well in Nashville on a team friendly contract.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
I am interested to hear what Stan has to say about the Hartman deal. #letthespinbegin
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
this has been my point in previous posts; Q has been running him and other guys up and down the line-up the last 2 years; messing around with the young guys; even had hartman at center; that he is not...
- bogiedoc

Q is an idiot. Always has been, always will be.
Cmonalready
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
Hartman trade: I always picture myself as a GM (as I am sure is true across this board). I'm giggling trying to figure out how a piece like this 4th for 5th rounders gets into a deal like this. Given where the Preds and Hawks sit in the standings, I think those picks will be within about 10 picks of one another. That seems a miniscule consideration.

Sort of like me sitting in the car dealership negotiating a $10,000 purchase, and pulling some of the loose change out of my pocket to close the deal at $10,000.82
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
Yes it will be funny next year at this time when those supporting this deal will be bashing Bowman in typical fashion for this deal when it ends up as a whole lot of nothing while Hartman is doing well in Nashville on a team friendly contract.
- 67hawks


Oh yeah its inevitable, the hindsighters are great at it.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Feb 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
He’s already 22 and not even playing in a top European league....he doesn’t pan into anything. He’s a nothing....a nobody.

We traded a former 30th overall pick (who can help this team now) for what will likely be the 31st overall pick (who likely won’t be of any help for at least 2 years)

It’s a bad deal because Hartman will likely flourish under a coach who doesn’t suffer from chronic headuptheassitis, and Edjsell will never play in the NHL

- Ogilthorpe2


There are reasons Nashville signed him last May our of Europe and likely the Hawks scouts had something to say about him too. You may be absolutely right, but two NHL clubs have seen value in him, so might be a bit much to say that he will never play in the NHL.
hockey nut 28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Kansas City
Joined: 11.01.2006

Feb 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
More trades cmon now...geez everyone stop for a Malnotti's deep dish for lunch?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
He’s already 22 and not even playing in a top European league....he doesn’t pan into anything. He’s a nothing....a nobody.

We traded a former 30th overall pick (who can help this team now) for what will likely be the 31st overall pick (who likely won’t be of any help for at least 2 years)

It’s a bad deal because Hartman will likely flourish under a coach who doesn’t suffer from chronic headuptheassitis, and Edjsell will never play in the NHL

- Ogilthorpe2


that is possible...i think this trade has more upside for the preds than the hawks; but hartman had to go...and its not a bad or though unknown return; stanbow could package this 1st rounder in a post season trade...
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Feb 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
It could be that the Hawks scouts see Ejdsell as a potential AA replacement as EnzoD has speculated earlier in the thread. Maybe AA still on the move? I think in the end, if the Hawks don't feel Hartman is a long term part of the team, then more draft picks is better in terms of rebuilding faster.

Edit: I shouldn't really say replacement, but speculated he is similar to AA. Don't mean to imply extra meaning on EnzoD's post that he didn't intend.

- breadbag


If this Ejdsell guy makes the Hawks next year, this is a big time win for the Hawks. If Ejdsell turns out to be a Dennis Rasmussen type of player, then it's just a #TANK move. Either way, given how the situation with Q + Hartman boiled over last game, this shouldn't be too surprising. IF this late 1st allows the Hawks to trade up and draft Tzchuck, I think all of us will be ecstatic.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
He’s already 22 and not even playing in a top European league....he doesn’t pan into anything. He’s a nothing....a nobody.

We traded a former 30th overall pick (who can help this team now) for what will likely be the 31st overall pick (who likely won’t be of any help for at least 2 years)

It’s a bad deal because Hartman will likely flourish under a coach who doesn’t suffer from chronic headuptheassitis, and Edjsell will never play in the NHL

- Ogilthorpe2

I hate to say that you might turn out correct with that assessment. So nowcStan better be more careful whom he drafts will not be difficult to coach
Btw what ever happened to the promising big entetf in Florida - not producing this year Bjugstad 11 goals 41 pts in 59 gp whom is going for Pacioretty. Is Bjuugstad still a tough son because Montreal always looki g for more muscle and size.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Feb 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
Yeah dude! That'd be so sick! I really hope he hurts one of our guys
- BlazinMike


Don’t want him to hurt anybody!! Just play hard against the Hawks and throw a couple of good solid body checks! I am upset they traded a guy that had some of those intangibles we are soft as putty!
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
that is possible...i think this trade has more upside for the preds than the hawks; but hartman had to go...and its not a bad or though unknown return; stanbow could package this 1st rounder in a post season trade...
- bogiedoc

Because....?
TexasHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.27.2017

Feb 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
He’s already 22 and not even playing in a top European league....he doesn’t pan into anything. He’s a nothing....a nobody.

We traded a former 30th overall pick (who can help this team now) for what will likely be the 31st overall pick (who likely won’t be of any help for at least 2 years)

It’s a bad deal because Hartman will likely flourish under a coach who doesn’t suffer from chronic headuptheassitis, and Edjsell will never play in the NHL

- Ogilthorpe2


So I'm confused. According to elite prospects, Ejdsell spent the entire season in Sweden's top league...

What, are we mad that he didn't play in the KHL?

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=29343

Either way, Ejdsell wasn't the point of the deal.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Feb 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
It could be that the Hawks scouts see Ejdsell as a potential AA replacement as EnzoD has speculated earlier in the thread. Maybe AA still on the move? I think in the end, if the Hawks don't feel Hartman is a long term part of the team, then more draft picks is better in terms of rebuilding faster.

Edit: I shouldn't really say replacement, but speculated he is similar to AA. Don't mean to imply extra meaning on EnzoD's post that he didn't intend.

- breadbag


Honestly we'd be lucky if Ejdsell ever makes the team. Yes his highlights looked good but he's in the second league in Sweden, not the SEL. We'll be lucky if he's a Kampf, let alone an Anisimov.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
If this Ejdsell guy makes the Hawks next year, this is a big time win for the Hawks. If Ejdsell turns out to be a Dennis Rasmussen type of player, then it's just a #TANK move. Either way, given how the situation with Q + Hartman boiled over last game, this shouldn't be too surprising. IF this late 1st allows the Hawks to trade up and draft Tzchuck, I think all of us will be ecstatic.
- EnzoD

Nothin good about his pedigree suggests he will be in the NHL soon or ever
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Feb 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
So I'm confused. According to elite prospects, Ejdsell spent the entire season in Sweden's top league...

What, are we mad that he didn't play in the KHL?

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=29343

Either way, Ejdsell wasn't the point of the deal.

- TexasHawk

Yeah, I don't get what he means by not in the top league, which he was absolutely in this season.
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