HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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They need a solid run of the young players (those that remain after Monday) - no more Bouma, no more Sharp, Jurko ok (let’s give him time for evaluation), Wingels ok (they seem to want him back next year - no objection from this amateur scout).
And it would be nice if the youngsters can play well enough to learn how to win (a skill as important as the other on-ice skills, and one that some never learn.
Give 12-8-91 the rest of the year together to really see what they can become, even if the screw up occasionally. Bring Forsling and Hayden back up IF they’ve progrsssed enough as Hogs - if not, let them continue where teaching is as important as winning.
A high draft pick would be great - im more interested in who they have now (including, I hope, Sikura). - StLBravesFan
A) Great write up Justin and B) Totally agree.
A high pick would be great but I’d like to see the young guys like 12, 8, 48, 91 win some games and not get used to losing being acceptable or a foregone conclusion. |
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RickJ
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Location: Burlington, ON Joined: 01.12.2010
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Maybe they are certain they are moving another big salary this TDL or this summer. With the cap going up, the math may not be as challenging.
Also wonder if not going the LTIR route because they are concerned this injury is possibly career-ending and, as such, puts them in a "back against the wall" trade negotiating position again. Having that possibility/certainty out there for trade partners and fans isn't what they'd want right now. - pdx2ord
Valid points.
My guess is the Hawks are very worried about CC long term - head trauma injuries are potentially career over things for goaltenders. (Mike Richter is one who had to retire from the Rangers due to concussion issues). Carey Price is now out with a concussion, Steve Mason same thing; Fleury has missed time more than once in the last couple of years.
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Davewn
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Location: West Des Moines, IA Joined: 12.16.2015
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Sure they could put CC on LTIR and bring in another expensive contract in a favourable trade, but then what do they do when it comes time to remove CC from LTIR to start next season? They already have an LTIR issue with Hossa's contract, that cap space isn't being used because its a year to year thing. - RickJ
It could make sense if the trade partner was up against the cap and had an underperforming/injured pending UFA they needed to shed to make a move. A lot of stars aligning, I know.
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These AA rumours to Columbus irritate because I am still ticked about the Panarin trade. If Bowman makes a deal with Columbus, it better be a damn good one. Columbus owes us one. |
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RickJ
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Location: Burlington, ON Joined: 01.12.2010
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But doesn’t his hit (and wouldn’t Crawford’s) have to be back on day one of next season at least for that one day - I don’t think they can just load up this summer without having to deal with those cap hits at some point. - StLBravesFan
Exactly right. LTIR is temporary relief so a short term replacement can be found during the injury recovery period. It isn't designed to be a way around the upper limits of the cap. |
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scott.jackson
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Location: Georgian Bluffs, ON Joined: 06.24.2014
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I was scanning through playoff team rosters and I don't see any team that has a player they need to dump to Chicago in order to get a player for the playoff push. Anybody else see any possibilities? |
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Z3Hawk
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Joined: 05.04.2017
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Beaks99
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Location: West Chicago, IL Joined: 02.17.2012
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Anybody have any comparison of Sikura vs. Vesey... just trying to think of Sikura would be a potential fit with Toews/Saad... we were hot on Vesey playing with Toews 2 years ago..
Is Sikura the same type of fit? |
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PatShart
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Location: Vegas, NV Joined: 06.25.2015
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I'd like to see something like...
Move Hartman to OTT for Cole
Move AA to either CLB for Ryan Murray or PHI for Morin or Sanheim (with whatever pieces need to be added here and there)
Then the D will have a much, much better look
Keith-Oesterle
Cole-Seabrook
Murphy - Murray-/Morin/Sanheim |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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Anybody have any comparison of Sikura vs. Vesey... just trying to think of Sikura would be a potential fit with Toews/Saad... we were hot on Vesey playing with Toews 2 years ago..
Is Sikura the same type of fit? - Beaks99
Sikura is a playmaker with goal scoring ability and slick skating. Not very big. I'm thinking he may be comparable to Schmaltz. Natural center but is able to play wing as he has been in college. Not sure how he is on draws and if he has pushback for a little guy like DeBrincat. |
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breadbag
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 11.30.2015
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Just some examples of team's we could help out by taking a high priced UFA who isn't doing much compared to their salary (allowing them to upgrade via trade)
Dallas - Kari Lehtonen - 5.9 Million- They could want to use that cap space for something else and he is UFA end of year.
Toronto - Leo Komarov - 3 Million - He isn't doing much this season, maybe the Leafs want cap space to upgrade.
Winnipeg - Toby Enström - 5.75 Million - playing 5 D minutes for nearly 6 million.
Calgary - Matt Stajan - 3.125 Million - Playing 4th line and has 7 points, maybe they see an opportunity to load up.
I'm sure there are other deals out there, but maybe there is a team wanting to take on Karlsson (with Bobby Ryan) from Ottawa and need to unload a piece Ottawa doesn't want to pay for. I'm sure there could be something don't on an expiring contract.
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Id still be looking at Philly. Grab a couple of D prospects or a near ready D prospect and a 1st rounder. The Hawks should be attempting to collect one or two first round picks being their 1st time as no doubt about it sellers. Rental markets are where the over pays come from. Time to shed some salary and restock a bit.
This season has been so weird thoigh its really hard to believe the deadline is 50 hours away and Im not feeing all that interested.
60 periods left. Looking forward to July 1 |
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birdie03
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Joined: 07.01.2011
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NO . . . NO . . . NO . . . we don't need AA !! He's a nice complimentary player, and other than Panarin, that's all we have right now. Plus at, his age, I don't want to be carrying that contract 3 more years.
If you want Jenner, or Anderson, or Murray, I'd be open to taking Saad back (another complimentary, but younger, player). He faired pretty well playing in C-bus.
Although we really need a top-2 center that can drive the play. We've been riding the Bread man all year, and I fear it's wearing thin with him. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Just some examples of team's we could help out by taking a high priced UFA who isn't doing much compared to their salary (allowing them to upgrade via trade)
Dallas - Kari Lehtonen - 5.9 Million- They could want to use that cap space for something else and he is UFA end of year.
Toronto - Leo Komarov - 3 Million - He isn't doing much this season, maybe the Leafs want cap space to upgrade.
Winnipeg - Toby Enström - 5.75 Million - playing 5 D minutes for nearly 6 million.
Calgary - Matt Stajan - 3.125 Million - Playing 4th line and has 7 points, maybe they see an opportunity to load up.
I'm sure there are other deals out there, but maybe there is a team wanting to take on Karlsson (with Bobby Ryan) from Ottawa and need to unload a piece Ottawa doesn't want to pay for. I'm sure there could be something don't on an expiring contract. - breadbag
Any #s people around? How much cap space would the Hawks be able to add with LTIR of Crawford ?
Take on those bad contracts for a 1st and a 3rd ? Id do that. |
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Rayipsd
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Location: Naperville, IL Joined: 02.16.2018
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If the hawks trade AA to Columbus the player I would want coming back in the deal is Gabriel Carlsson ( Picked 29th overall in 2015) . Do not take Murray. Carlsson is a guy with size, speed and can read the play. He would turn out to be a top 4 dmen. Murray is injury prone. |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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NO . . . NO . . . NO . . . we don't need AA !! He's a nice complimentary player, and other than Panarin, that's all we have right now. Plus at, his age, I don't want to be carrying that contract 3 more years.
If you want Jenner, or Anderson, or Murray, I'd be open to taking Saad back (another complimentary, but younger, player). He faired pretty well playing in C-bus.
Although we really need a top-2 center that can drive the play. We've been riding the Bread man all year, and I fear it's wearing thin with him. - birdie03
What happened with Wennberg? Wasn't he supposed to be the one feeding Panarin? I was hoping Wennberg would have a huge season. He's capable of being an assist machine. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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NO . . . NO . . . NO . . . we don't need AA !! He's a nice complimentary player, and other than Panarin, that's all we have right now. Plus at, his age, I don't want to be carrying that contract 3 more years.
If you want Jenner, or Anderson, or Murray, I'd be open to taking Saad back (another complimentary, but younger, player). He faired pretty well playing in C-bus.
Although we really need a top-2 center that can drive the play. We've been riding the Bread man all year, and I fear it's wearing thin with him. - birdie03
AAs contract isnt awful plus he has chemistry with Panarin. Just FYI
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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If the hawks trade AA to Columbus the player I would want coming back in the deal is Gabriel Carlsson ( Picked 29th overall in 2015) . Do not take Murray. Carlsson is a guy with size, speed and can read the play. He would turn out to be a top 4 dmen. Murray is injury prone. - Rayipsd
Agree, I'd prefer Carlsson over Murray for the reasons you shared. I heard the same thing about both. |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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Id still be looking at Philly. Grab a couple of D prospects or a near ready D prospect and a 1st rounder. The Hawks should be attempting to collect one or two first round picks being their 1st time as no doubt about it sellers. Rental markets are where the over pays come from. Time to shed some salary and restock a bit.
This season has been so weird thoigh its really hard to believe the deadline is 50 hours away and Im not feeing all that interested.
60 periods left. Looking forward to July 1 - mrpaulish
Agree that Flyers should be a trade partner for one of Sanheim or Morin. Hartman+ for one of them? Would love both young defenders but know Hextall would want heckuva lot so not realistic. |
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kwolf68
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Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA Joined: 12.18.2010
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AAs contract isnt awful plus he has chemistry with Panarin. Just FYI - mrpaulish
The CBJ fan obviously knows not of what he speaks. His age and term? The guy is 29 with 3 years left with an actual market value salary. Not debilitating at all. The only issues is the NTC attached to it, though I think AA would waive to go play with Columbus. |
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I'd like to see something like...
Move Hartman to OTT for Cole
Move AA to either CLB for Ryan Murray or PHI for Morin or Sanheim (with whatever pieces need to be added here and there)
Then the D will have a much, much better look
Keith-Oesterle
Cole-Seabrook
Murphy - Murray-/Morin/Sanheim - PatShart
You realize that Cole is a pending UFA. So we would have him only for the rest of the regular season as there will be no post season for us. Cole has been a healthy scratch many times this year for the Pens. He has been on the block all season.
So it would be Hartman for nothing. Not very good asset management. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Not that I care but wtf happened to the Blues? They are soon to be on the outside looking in.... |
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kwolf68
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Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA Joined: 12.18.2010
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You realize that Cole is a pending UFA. So we would have him only for the rest of the regular season as there will be no post season for us. Cole has been a healthy scratch many times this year for the Pens. He has been on the block all season.
So it would be Hartman for nothing. Not very good asset management. - 67hawks
Yea Hartman for Cole makes no sense at all. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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The CBJ fan obviously knows not of what he speaks. His age and term? The guy is 29 with 3 years left with an actual market value salary. Not debilitating at all. The only issues is the NTC attached to it, though I think AA would waive to go play with Columbus. - kwolf68
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scott.jackson
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Location: Georgian Bluffs, ON Joined: 06.24.2014
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Just some examples of team's we could help out by taking a high priced UFA who isn't doing much compared to their salary (allowing them to upgrade via trade)
Dallas - Kari Lehtonen - 5.9 Million- They could want to use that cap space for something else and he is UFA end of year.
Toronto - Leo Komarov - 3 Million - He isn't doing much this season, maybe the Leafs want cap space to upgrade.
Winnipeg - Toby Enström - 5.75 Million - playing 5 D minutes for nearly 6 million.
Calgary - Matt Stajan - 3.125 Million - Playing 4th line and has 7 points, maybe they see an opportunity to load up.
I'm sure there are other deals out there, but maybe there is a team wanting to take on Karlsson (with Bobby Ryan) from Ottawa and need to unload a piece Ottawa doesn't want to pay for. I'm sure there could be something don't on an expiring contract. - breadbag
Those are some good options. The only one I can't see as an option would be Lehtonen. If Bishop goes down they need a proven goalie to step in. Komarov would be an option if Toronto thinks Martin can fill in. The thing about Komarov is he plays big PK minutes.
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