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Bob Duff
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.10.2014

Jul 17 @ 5:44 PM ET
Bob Duff: Tatar, Wings at odds The Detroit Red Wings and forward Tomas Tatar are about $1 million per season apart in contract negotiations and could be headed for arbitration on Thursday.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:49 PM ET
Haha go (frank) yourself Ken Holland.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
It's not Tatar's fault that Ken Holland has completely ruined the Red Wings.
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jul 17 @ 6:49 PM ET
Larsson, nick baptiste and 2018 2nd for Tatar.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 17 @ 7:09 PM ET
Larsson, nick baptiste and 2018 2nd for Tatar.
- Sabres1523

Holland doesn't make trades until the trade deadline.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jul 17 @ 7:13 PM ET
Holland doesn't make trades until the trade deadline.
- gergeswillems

Roman polak and two seconds for Tatar
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 17 @ 7:19 PM ET
Roman polak and two seconds for Tatar
- BreathLeafs2015

If you tell Holland that Polak is Dan Cleary's distant cousin then he might agree to this trade.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 17 @ 7:36 PM ET
Holland doesn't make trades until the trade deadline.
- gergeswillems


That works perfect as that will be when Sami is 100% - Sami and a 2nd for Tatar - Wings save money and get a cost controlled top 4 RHD -
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 8:21 PM ET
Larsson, nick baptiste and 2018 2nd for Tatar.
- Sabres1523

You can't be serious?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 8:22 PM ET
That works perfect as that will be when Sami is 100% - Sami and a 2nd for Tatar - Wings save money and get a cost controlled top 4 RHD -
- dozerD10

Montour for Tatar straight up
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 17 @ 8:54 PM ET
Montour for Tatar straight up
- Feds91Stammer


I'd be scared to make that trade - have a feeling that Brandon is about to supplant Cam and become the 3rd best Ducks D man behind Hampus and Josh - although for Tatar I would because he can fill it up and has good wheels - but it's a salary thing - Sami @ his is a better match for what Tatar is going to be paid than Brandon which is still entry level ....
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jul 17 @ 10:30 PM ET
It's not Tatar's fault that Ken Holland has completely ruined the Red Wings.
- gergeswillems

How the (frank) would you know?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 11:52 PM ET
I'd be scared to make that trade - have a feeling that Brandon is about to supplant Cam and become the 3rd best Ducks D man behind Hampus and Josh - although for Tatar I would because he can fill it up and has good wheels - but it's a salary thing - Sami @ his is a better match for what Tatar is going to be paid than Brandon which is still entry level ....
- dozerD10

I'm not all that big on Vatanen and I would prefer the younger player but yeah I would see why that is a tough trade to look at.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 18 @ 12:49 AM ET
Martinez/muzzin and Kempe for Tatar... he sure looked good with Kopitar in the world championships
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:25 AM ET


Connor Brown and Martin Marincin for Tatar.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 18 @ 4:53 AM ET
How the (frank) would you know?
- Larsson_fan

Yawn.
houseofcards74
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Royal Oak, MI
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 18 @ 6:54 AM ET
I'll never fault a player trying to get the most he can. Careers are often very short.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:15 AM ET
Of course the irony is that, now that we have a guy I'd actually be willing to overpay a little bit to keep around, Holland doesn't have the money.
Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:56 AM ET
Of course the irony is that, now that we have a guy I'd actually be willing to overpay a little bit to keep around, Holland doesn't have the money.
- Sven22


None of us should be surprised by what Tatar is asking for on this team. When Holland hands out 5,6, and 7 year contracts at ridiculously overpriced amounts to crappy or mediocre players it becomes what all the players want / expect. This team is such a trainwreck.
Hockeytown4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: The Captain is Home!!, TN
Joined: 08.14.2009

Jul 18 @ 9:18 AM ET
None of us should be surprised by what Tatar is asking for on this team. When Holland hands out 5,6, and 7 year contracts at ridiculously overpriced amounts to crappy or mediocre players it becomes what all the players want / expect. This team is such a trainwreck.
- Vladdie_Kon1

Thanks to none other than the most incompetent GM in the league, still stuck in 1998.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:20 AM ET
I'll never fault a player trying to get the most he can. Careers are often very short.
- houseofcards74


This. I don't understand how anyone could side with the owners. Then again the owner of my favorite team is slightly worse than Atilla the Hun. So I'm predisposed to hate them.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Jul 18 @ 9:24 AM ET
None of us should be surprised by what Tatar is asking for on this team. When Holland hands out 5,6, and 7 year contracts at ridiculously overpriced amounts to crappy or mediocre players it becomes what all the players want / expect. This team is such a trainwreck.
- Vladdie_Kon1


Even without those bad deals, I actually don't think $6 million is a ridiculous ask for Tatar. Ideally you'd want a little more of a discount, but that's really not far off from fair value.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 18 @ 9:28 AM ET
Even without those bad deals, I actually don't think $6 million is a ridiculous ask for Tatar. Ideally you'd want a little more of a discount, but that's really not far off from fair value.
- Sven22

It's much closer than Holland's lowball value of him likely in the 4 range. I expect Kenny will badmouth Tatar in the press all season via his press puppet HSJ, just like he did with Mrazek.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:13 AM ET
Hagelin+1st+ZAR for Tatar Sauce
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
If we're going to trade Tatar, we have to make sure we're getting the best player (not necessarily best right now, but at least projects to be the best in the long run) in the deal. There is no utility in trading Tatar for a grab bag of players, prospects, and/or picks who all project to wind up somewhere in the middle of the lineup. Stockpiling so-so and above-average depth is the last thing we need.

I would MUCH rather trade Tatar in a one-for-one kind of deal, or package Tatar with other assets to pick up a legit young (or at least youngish) star or top-tier prospect. If Tatar is the most valuable single asset supplied by either team in the deal, Detroit will lose the trade.
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