John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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powerenforcer
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Location: Wheeling, IL Joined: 09.24.2009
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Thanks JJ. Would this scenario be out of the picture - Say trade for a LW (say JVR) and then at the draft move that player for a more controlled contract/picks? |
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93Joe
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 06.09.2015
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Concise and to the point JJ.
The Bruins broke out for 4 goals two days ago in the first period against Detroit. They can attack and come at you with some urgency. Hopefully the defense is ready to go tonight.
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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A 3-2 loss to MIN isn't a thumping. And WSH is 'thumping' quite a few teams lately, including STL last night in STL. |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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A 3-2 loss to MIN isn't a thumping. And WSH is 'thumping' quite a few teams lately, including STL last night in STL. - scottak
The Hawks lost fairly convincingly to MN. Let's not kid ourselves.
No argument on Washington, but count me in the camp that wants the Hawks to be the best team in the NHL, not somewhere among the better of the rest. |
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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Reports that Tootoo will replace Desi on the 4th line. |
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Abadseed
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Location: Arlington hts, IL Joined: 01.20.2014
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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The Hawks lost fairly convincingly to MN. Let's not kid ourselves.
No argument on Washington, but count me in the camp that wants the Hawks to be the best team in the NHL, not somewhere among the better of the rest. - John Jaeckel
I don't have the 'high danger' shot totals handy, but the Blackhawks did out shoot the Wild 35-32. |
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breadbag
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 11.30.2015
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The Minny game definitely wasn't what I would call a thumping. The Hawks lost a fairly close game where goal-tending was the difference. What sucked about that game was giving up a 2 goal lead. |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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I don't have the 'high danger' shot totals handy, but the Blackhawks did out shoot the Wild 35-32. - scottak
I don't have the chart, but I remember watching the game and how much of the Hawks' offense came out of the perimeter and the blue line, where MN's business was done in close.
Truth is, the Hawks played well for about 30 minutes of that game. Problem is, MN played well when they had to, especially the latter half of the game when the Hawks were trying to get back into it (on home ice), but the opponent stopped them. And that was because the opponent was/is a very good team.
Just one game, but it was a big game because of the divisional issue and the humiliation the game before in Washington. IMO, the Hawks really should have played better.
But that's where you tip your cap to the other club and accept that you lost and WHY you lost. And then you take that and use it to get better.
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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I don't have the 'high danger' shot totals handy, but the Blackhawks did out shoot the Wild 35-32. - scottak
Once Minnesota found their legs from the 2nd period and on after having played the night before, they controlled all of that game.
Lets not put lip stick on a pig. A top echelon road team rolled them 6-0 and the Hawks were dominated throughout. In a bounce back game the Hawks came out strong, only to regress to their inconsistent ways and blew a 2 goal lead.
Glad they won in Colorado but against a crap team with a fire sale as a major distractor they found themselves in a very tight battle and only won because their depth guys showed up.
Toews is still MIA and at this point anything you get from him is a bonus because he looks to be 75% at best.
Crawford is off his angle and again and needs a fine tuning. Look up the stat since he came back.....in those 10 games his numbers are very pedestrian and some of the goals he's been giving up are just horrid.
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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I don't have the chart, but I remember watching the game and how much of the Hawks' offense came out of the perimeter and the blue line, where MN's business was done in close.
Truth is, the Hawks played well for about 30 minutes of that game. Problem is, MN played well when they had to, especially the latter half of the game when the Hawks were trying to get back into it (on home ice), but the opponent stopped them. And that was because the opponent was/is a very good team.
Just one game, but it was a big game because of the divisional issue and the humiliation the game before in Washington. IMO, the Hawks really should have played better. "Thumping" might be a strong choice of words. Does it really matter? The Hawks should have played better that night, and the game before, against good teams. They didn't.
But that's where you tip your cap to the other club and accept that you lost and WHY you lost. And then you take that and use it to get better. - John Jaeckel |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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Once Minnesota found their legs from the 2nd period and on after having played the night before, they controlled all of that game.
Lets not put lip stick on a pig. A top echelon road team rolled them 6-0 and the Hawks were dominated throughout. In a bounce back game the Hawks came out strong, only to regress to their inconsistent ways and blew a 2 goal lead.
Glad they won in Colorado but against a crap team with a fire sale as a major distractor they found themselves in a very tight battle and only won because their depth guys showed up.
Toews is still MIA and at this point anything you get from him is a bonus because he looks to be 75% at best.
Crawford is off his angle and again and needs a fine tuning. Look up the stat since he came back.....in those 10 games his numbers are very pedestrian and some of the goals he's been giving up are just horrid. - SteveRain
^^^^^^^^ Every word.
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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I don't have the chart, but I remember watching the game and how much of the Hawks' offense came out of the perimeter and the blue line, where MN's business was done in close.
Truth is, the Hawks played well for about 30 minutes of that game. Problem is, MN played well when they had to, especially the latter half of the game when the Hawks were trying to get back into it (on home ice), but the opponent stopped them. And that was because the opponent was/is a very good team.
Just one game, but it was a big game because of the divisional issue and the humiliation the game before in Washington. IMO, the Hawks really should have played better.
But that's where you tip your cap to the other club and accept that you lost and WHY you lost. And then you take that and use it to get better. - John Jaeckel
This team reminds of last year's and 2011-12. Not bad with zero shot of winning of a cup, but not able to overcome a lot of holes like the deeper teams.
And again if the Hawks want a dog and pony draft parade by all means.....but as we've routinely seen the prices for a top 6 F will be high and what prospect if any would a seller take straight up in return for a top 6 player.....
And Ryan Hartman can be exposed this summer and based on his play, I can't see Vegas passing him up.....so that's another variable Bowman will have to juggle. |
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This team reminds of last year's and 2011-12. Not bad with zero shot of winning of a cup, but not able to overcome a lot of holes like the deeper teams.
And again if the Hawks want a dog and pony draft parade by all means.....but as we've routinely seen the prices for a top 6 F will be high and what prospect if any would a seller take straight up in return for a top 6 player.....
And Ryan Hartman can be exposed this summer and based on his play, I can't see Vegas passing him up.....so that's another variable Bowman will have to juggle. - SteveRain
I'm starting to think darling could be grabbed, he's proven that can be a consistent and good netminder and i can't see him asking for more than 2-3M per which is a good price for his play thus far. |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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^^^^^^^^ Every word. - John Jaeckel
I think the top guys who are healthy Kane/Panarin are growing frustrated.
I kept a close eye on Keith and Toews and both had bad games. Maybe at this point this is what we can expect from them, but lots of turnovers, etc and if those two aren't at the top of their games....going to be very hard to win 16 postseason games against a gauntlet of teams.
panik, Vinny,Hartman have accepted their roles. A 1 handed Marcus Kruger is > Rasmussen. While the beat guys an gush over a new found confidence for Schmaltz lets wait and see for 10-20 games where he's at. Same with Kero.
To me this team's best chance to win is 2, 7, 19 being as healthy as they be and instead of wining every battle, maybe the coaching staff and organization should look to sit these guys a game or two in rotation to save whatever they have left for spring. Not saying sit them all at once, but a 10 game stretch where each guy gets 3 games off could do wonders for lingering issues.
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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I'm starting to think darling could be grabbed as well, he's proven that can be a consistent and good netminder and i can't see him asking for more than 2-3M per which is a good price for his play thus far. - hawkss81
I keep saying it, but I would deal Crawford and get another 1st round pick and young LOW salary guy. Sign Darling for 2-3 years at 3 million and bank the 3.
Would take more then that, but while CC is very good, so is the Hawks system and paying 6 million for a guy is crazy when you pay huge money to 4-5 Fs, and 3 D men. |
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Ur Not Me
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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Do u think Crow can fetch a 1st rd pick? I understand he's a cup G but he has term and ur up against the cap...
edit: Plus G's are always available |
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TheTrob
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Location: Oak Park, IL Joined: 04.14.2010
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I'm starting to think darling could be grabbed as well, he's proven that can be a consistent and good netminder and i can't see him asking for more than 2-3M per which is a good price for his play thus far. - hawkss81
Teams can only lose one player in the expansion draft. |
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tompo1015
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Location: IL Joined: 03.17.2013
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If you can get Darling to sign for $3million, I agree, I'd take a first for Crawford.
But, there's no guarantee Darling would take $3 million, for three years. He's a free agent, some GM might throw $4 million at him.
If you move Crawford and Darling gets offered big dough somewhere else, you're without a decent goalie next season. |
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Aeolos
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Joined: 09.30.2015
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If the Hawks even think its possible that Vegas is going to take Darling. they need to move Corey and protect Darling. I think Darling can do the job and the cap space could go toward Panarin and your new LW |
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I keep saying it, but I would deal Crawford and get another 1st round pick and young LOW salary guy. Sign Darling for 2-3 years at 3 million and bank the 3.
Would take more then that, but while CC is very good, so is the Hawks system and paying 6 million for a guy is crazy when you pay huge money to 4-5 Fs, and 3 D men. - SteveRain
Hi Rain, I tend to agree with you more than not. Agree that Crawford being dealt is a good way to open up cap space. Seems the more Darling plays the more consistent he gets. Makes sense.
But when you reference their system I am not so sure. The only consistent thing about it I see is to play patty cake and not go to the net. When they do go to the net they score more. So to me their plan A system is highly suspect. |
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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I'm starting to think darling could be grabbed as well, he's proven that can be a consistent and good netminder and i can't see him asking for more than 2-3M per which is a good price for his play thus far. - hawkss81
Scott Darling will be a UFA after the season, and not eligible to be picked by Vegas. After the draft, any team, including the Hawks, can sign him.
I believe the one of the Icehog goalies meets the expansion criteria, and will be the one exposed.
FWIW, Vegas will make their selections on June 20th by 5 PM ET, and they will be announced on June 21. The NHL Entry Draft will be June 23-24. |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Do u think Crow can fetch a 1st rd pick? I understand he's a cup G but he has term and ur up against the cap...
edit: Plus G's are always available - Ur Not Me
Maybe...but if there isn't much cap movement the challenge will be trading him without taking any salary back or at least minimal salary. Even if we paid Darling $3 million and took back $2 million in a trade the cap savings isn't that much. |
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Ur Not Me
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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Maybe...but if there isn't much cap movement the challenge will be trading him without taking any salary back or at least minimal salary. Even if we paid Darling $3 million and took back $2 million in a trade the cap savings isn't that much. - DarthKane
Guess my point was more towards that ur not getting a 1st for a G on a cap strapped team...
I think a team w/Cap space can net a late 2nd or def a 3rd pick for sure, |
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