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John Gove
Joined: 07.02.2015

Jan 20 @ 6:03 AM ET
John Gove: Game 47 Recap: Lightning Point Streak Ends at Two Games
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jan 20 @ 7:38 AM ET
Posting at 5:54am, yipes. Autocorrect strikes with "whole" vs hole.

Yes, it would have been difficult to get points in all 3 road games but it is necessary if they do want to dig themselves out of the hole they are in?

Any word on Hedman and his illness? Did he accompany the team?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 20 @ 7:39 AM ET
So has Vasi regressed from last season, the team D isn't good enough or he's not ready to take over full time?

Pouliot + Fleury for Drouin + 3rd.
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

Jan 20 @ 7:48 AM ET
So has Vasi regressed from last season, the team D isn't good enough or he's not ready to take over full time?

Pouliot + Fleury for Drouin + 3rd.

- Aussiepenguin


Zero cap space to take on a contract like Fleury. Pouliot is an intriguing prospect for the Bolts but they need established help and they need it now on D.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 20 @ 7:55 AM ET
Zero cap space to take on a contract like Fleury. Pouliot is an intriguing prospect for the Bolts but they need established help and they need it now on D.
- Kucherovski


Yes probably on off season deal when Bishop leaves. Drouin looks the goods - every time he plays us he scores & usually throws an assist in there for fun!

Strange year for you guys so far. I think you'll work it out in time, lucky the other teams aren't putting a lot of space between playoff positions & missing out!
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jan 20 @ 7:57 AM ET
Fleury is going to Las Vegas in June so why trade for him?

Vasi has been fine but with Stamkos and Hedman out of the lineup things are tough. Bishop is just back from an injury too.
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 20 @ 7:58 AM ET
So has Vasi regressed from last season, the team D isn't good enough or he's not ready to take over full time?

Pouliot + Fleury for Drouin + 3rd.

- Aussiepenguin


Hard to say what the problem is. One theory I have been juggeling with is that he is effected by the smaller pads. The NHL has sent out a press-release saying that all goalies must use the new smaller pads by february 6th or something. Vasy has played with them all year. Maybe this has something to do with his regression, or maybe he is just having a bad year and struggeling with the big workload he's been given.

And that trade proposal is really one sided. Pitt is shopping MAF bc of expansion, everybody knows this. Drouin is the only player on our team worth watching right now. Pouliot has done nothing to prove himself in the NHL, and he is freakin 23 years old. Not a prospect anymore. And that would mean that we lose Vasy to Vegas.
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 20 @ 7:59 AM ET
This team is frustrating to watch
Kucherovski
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.22.2015

Jan 20 @ 8:08 AM ET
Fleury is going to Las Vegas in June so why trade for him?

Vasi has been fine but with Stamkos and Hedman out of the lineup things are tough. Bishop is just back from an injury too.

- Leafsandbolts


Well they would have to trade Fleury to Vegas or protect him based on his contract, Vegas can't draft him.

I am starting to wonder if the Blues may be a nice trade partner for Tampa? Bring Bishop back since Allen seems to be getting pulled every other game and Shattenkirk would be a decent addition to our blueline. I think both organizations are going to start trying to get it together and patch small holes, Goaltending in St. Louis and Defense in Tampa. Seems like a good trade partner to keep Bishop out of the East also.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jan 20 @ 8:08 AM ET
This team is frustrating to watch
- Cloud


We share your pain.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 20 @ 8:12 AM ET
Hard to say what the problem is. One theory I have been juggeling with is that he is effected by the smaller pads. The NHL has sent out a press-release saying that all goalies must use the new smaller pads by february 6th or something. Vasy has played with them all year. Maybe this has something to do with his regression, or maybe he is just having a bad year and struggeling with the big workload he's been given.

And that trade proposal is really one sided. Pitt is shopping MAF bc of expansion, everybody knows this. Drouin is the only player on our team worth watching right now. Pouliot has done nothing to prove himself in the NHL, and he is freakin 23 years old. Not a prospect anymore. And that would mean that we lose Vasy to Vegas.

- Cloud


The trade won't happen due to Vegas - basically ran it out without thinking about the draft. Murray has had problems as well, so from all the talk about those 2 (Vasi & Murray), being the ducks nuts both have disappointed a little. Pouliot needs a change it appears. He has talent but I think too much talk not enough action before he'd even stepped on NHL ice.
John Gove
Joined: 07.02.2015

Jan 20 @ 8:28 AM ET
Posting at 5:54am, yipes. Autocorrect strikes with "whole" vs hole.

Yes, it would have been difficult to get points in all 3 road games but it is necessary if they do want to dig themselves out of the hole they are in?

Any word on Hedman and his illness? Did he accompany the team?

- Leafsandbolts



My apologies, it was that whole morning brain.
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 20 @ 8:40 AM ET
The trade won't happen due to Vegas - basically ran it out without thinking about the draft. Murray has had problems as well, so from all the talk about those 2 (Vasi & Murray), being the ducks nuts both have disappointed a little. Pouliot needs a change it appears. He has talent but I think too much talk not enough action before he'd even stepped on NHL ice.
- Aussiepenguin


Yeah, the draft really complicates lots of things.

Agreed on Poliout, seems like he got to big of a chip on his shoulder to fill a defensive need for you guys and had way to big expectations on him from the beginning.
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 20 @ 8:42 AM ET
Well they would have to trade Fleury to Vegas or protect him based on his contract, Vegas can't draft him.

I am starting to wonder if the Blues may be a nice trade partner for Tampa? Bring Bishop back since Allen seems to be getting pulled every other game and Shattenkirk would be a decent addition to our blueline. I think both organizations are going to start trying to get it together and patch small holes, Goaltending in St. Louis and Defense in Tampa. Seems like a good trade partner to keep Bishop out of the East also.

- Kucherovski


A Bish for Shatt trade could be good for both sides. Dont know how bad Allen is playing, but I have never been sold on him. The question is if both teams will be able to resign them with their cap situation.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 20 @ 8:45 AM ET
Yeah, the draft really complicates lots of things.

Agreed on Poliout, seems like he got to big of a chip on his shoulder to fill a defensive need for you guys and had way to big expectations on him from the beginning.

- Cloud


That trade won't happen because Drouin is a bonafide first line winger. Pouliot is a prospect who can't crack the roster. And Fleury is a slightly above average goaltender, hardly better than Vasi, maybe not even better at all. And the 3rd is just insulting. (frank)ing awful trade for the Lightning.
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 20 @ 9:05 AM ET
That trade won't happen because Drouin is a bonafide first line winger. Pouliot is a prospect who can't crack the roster. And Fleury is a slightly above average goaltender, hardly better than Vasi, maybe not even better at all. And the 3rd is just insulting. (frank)ing awful trade for the Lightning.
- j.boyd919


Trump is having tea in the white house as we speak and I try to not kick on a fella who's already down but yeah, this is all true.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:06 AM ET
Trump is having tea in the white house as we speak and I try to not kick on a fella who's already down but yeah, this is all true.
- Cloud


He's from Australia.. his hockey knowledge is questionable.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 20 @ 11:29 AM ET
So has Vasi regressed from last season, the team D isn't good enough or he's not ready to take over full time?

Pouliot + Fleury for Drouin + 3rd.

- Aussiepenguin

Delete your account
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jan 20 @ 1:33 PM ET
5 goals against, 4 goals scored on this road trip in three games. The defense is back but now the offense is gone.

As for the Goalies, each one gave up a bad softy in each game of this road trip. The other two were a defensive breakdown in OT on a faceoff and then a redirected shot off of Nesterov who was in the blue paint. Both have played well but with a mental lapse each game. I wonder if the trend continues.

Going to be interesting to see what happens, at what point do we say the playoffs are out of reach for this team? But its not like other teams are pulling away so there is still hope.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 20 @ 6:36 PM ET
He's from Australia.. his hockey knowledge is questionable.


- j.boyd919


So proving you wrong a few times shows your knowledge to be...................?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 20 @ 6:37 PM ET
Delete your account
- Feds91Stammer


"Players are useless after 30".

Your comment not mine sweet lips!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 20 @ 10:19 PM ET
"Players are useless after 30".

Your comment not mine sweet lips!

- Aussiepenguin

Sick misquote that is out of context. Go (frank) a dingo.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 20 @ 10:57 PM ET
Sick misquote that is out of context. Go (frank) a dingo.
- Feds91Stammer




I knew you would be back here after your attempt at playing GM in the Pens thread failed miserably!

Deny deny deny deny. That's usually the plan when someone (frank)s up or does/says something stupid that they aren't solid enough to own up to!! But that's the way you roll I suppose!!

Keep those classy comebacks going though!

Just waiting for the hat wearing hound to make his appearance with the immature gifs..............................
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 20 @ 11:22 PM ET
That trade won't happen because Drouin is a bonafide first line winger. Pouliot is a prospect who can't crack the roster. And Fleury is a slightly above average goaltender, hardly better than Vasi, maybe not even better at all. And the 3rd is just insulting. (frank)ing awful trade for the Lightning.
- j.boyd919


Funny that, Vasi seeing 114 odd less shots tending with arguably a stronger D unit the stats for both Vasi & Flower are pretty close for this season (comparing this season as Vasi is basically playing as a starter). So I guess going by the stats thus far Vasi is only slightly above average if at all above due to the less shots faced & team in front (based on this year - being the most responsible stats to judge as it's the now not 24 months ago!) having better D? If the 'trend' continues Flower may very well be the better option in net for a contender (probably why JR wants to keep him in Pittsburgh).
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:09 AM ET
Funny that, Vasi seeing 114 odd less shots tending with arguably a stronger D unit the stats for both Vasi & Flower are pretty close for this season (comparing this season as Vasi is basically playing as a starter). So I guess going by the stats thus far Vasi is only slightly above average if at all above due to the less shots faced & team in front (based on this year - being the most responsible stats to judge as it's the now not 24 months ago!) having better D? If the 'trend' continues Flower may very well be the better option in net for a contender (probably why JR wants to keep him in Pittsburgh).
- Aussiepenguin


Do you have any data to back up your claim that tampa has a better defense that pittsburgh? Also.. what goalie stats are you comparing when looking at vasi and Fleury?
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