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Quick Hits: Development Camp Wrapup, Hextall's Commentary

July 3, 2018, 8:40 AM ET [342 Comments]
Bill Meltzer
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Team Clarke Wins 3-on-3 Tourney

The Flyers wrapped up their 2018 Development Camp on Monday with the annual 3-on-3 tournament at the Skate Zone in Voorhees. Pascal Laberge scored the most goals with five, including three in a span of about 30 seconds. Unofficially, Morgan Frost was the assist leader this year. Last year, Olle Lycksell scored five goals. This year, the Swedish forward scored one.

Team Clarke lost both of its round-robin games but then won out in the second round to win the tourney. Team Barber earned round-robin wins via shootout over Team Clarke and Team Ashbee to earn a bye into the final game. Team Ashbee defeated Team Clarke 7-3 in round-robin play but then lost to them 7-6 in the semifinal game to qualify for the championship match. Team Clarke then claimed a 4-1 victory over Team Barber in the championship.

The five goaltenders at Development Camp rotated among the three team, and each goalie played two games in the tournament. Felix Sandström won both of his games.

Second-year pro defenseman Philippe Myers did not play in the tournament due what was described as a minor muscle. Last season, Myers was plagued by groin issues in the first half of the season but was relatively healthy the rest of the season. Wade Allison, Connor Bunnaman and Tanner Laczynski did not take part in on-ice work during camp due to injury rehabs. David Kase is also dealing with an injury and did not attend camp this year.

Round-Robin Results

Team Barber 6, - Team Ashbee 5 (SO)

Barber scorers: Jay O’Brien 2, Carsen Twarynski 2, Mark Friedman
Ashbee scorers: Pascal Laberge 2, Gavin Hain 2, Morgan Frost
Goalies: Team Barber - Samuel Ersson; Team Ashbee - Matej Tomek

Team Ashbee 7 - Team Clarke 3

Ashbee scorers: James De Haas 4, Morgan Frost, Adam Ginning, Noah Cates
Clarke scorers: Joel Farabee, Jack St. Ivany, Wyatt Kalynuk
Goalies: Team Ashbee – Felix Sandström; Team Clarke: Kirill Ustimenko

Team Barber 3 - Team Clarke 2 (SO)

Barber scorers: German Rubtsov, Olle Lycksell
Clarke scorers: Joel Farabee, Jack St. Ivany
Goalies: Team Barber: Carter Hart; Team Clarke: Samuel Ersson

Semifinal game: Team Clarke 7 - Team Ashbee 6

Clarke scorers: Joel Farabee 2, Maksim Sushko 2, Isaac Ratcliffe 2, David Bernhardt
Ashbbe scorers: Pascal Laberge 3, Gavin Hain, Morgan Frost, Noah Cates
Goalies: Team Ashbee - Matej Tomek; Team Clarke – Kirill Ustimenko

Final game: Team Clarke 4 - Team Barber 1

Clarke scorers: Isaac Ratcliffe 2, Maksim Sushko, David Bernhardt (EN)
Barber scorers: Jay O’Brien
Goalies: Team Clarke – Felix Sandström; Team Barber - Hart

Individual Goal Leaders (shootouts not included)

Pascal Laberge – 5
James de Haas – 4
Joel Farabee – 4
Isaac Ratcliffe – 4
Morgan Frost - 3
Maksim Sushko – 3
Jay O’Brien – 3
Gavin Hain – 3
Noah Cates – 2
Carsen Twarynski – 2
David Bernhardt – 2
Jack St. Ivany – 2
Adam Ginning – 1
Mark Friedman – 1
German Rubtsov – 1
Olle Lycksell – 1

Goalies: Felix Sandström (2-0, 4 GA), Carter Hart (1-1, 6 GA), Samuel Ersson (1-1, 7 GA), Matej Tomek (0-2, 12 GA), Kirill Ustimenko (1-1, 13 GA).

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QUICK HITS: JULY 3, 2018

1) Following the conclusion of Development Camp, Flyers general manager Ron Hextall met with the media to discuss his observations from this year's camp (note: see bottom section of today's blog for a transcript, courtesy of the Flyers). One of Hextall's most insightful comments was in discussing why 2017 first-round pick Joel Farabee threads the needle so effectively and his shots give goaltenders fits.

"He disguises whether it’s a shot or a pass. He’s got really quick hands and a lot of guys will come down the goalie knows where they’re going to shoot, they know exactly where they’re going to shoot, right? So, you see goalies make a save and you go, 'Woah! That was quick.' Well, it really wasn’t because they read the puck off the stick blade rather than reacted to it. The puck is really hard to react to," Hextall said.

"Joel hides things, we call it deception. So, if he’s going to shoot the puck, he’ll turn his hands real quick and bang and let it go. Or he’ll open up for a shot and he’ll pass the puck. He’s got a lot of deception. A lot of top guys in the league, you wonder why they score or how that pass went through. Well, they’re showing hands to the defenseman, to the goalie. The little things that the naked eye doesn’t see that they’re doing, and Joel is one of those guys. His deception in his game is outstanding."

2) Flyers 2016 first-round pick Morgan Frost also possesses the same deceptive quality to his game with the puck on his stick. He is a supreme playmaker who, at least at the OHL level, seems to usually be thinking one step ahead of defenders. He makes gorgeous saucer passes and has a knack for threading passes through the narrowest of lanes.

Frost is by no means an overpowering shooter but he scored 42 regular season goals and 10 playoff goals last season because he has developed a very deceptive release. Defenders and goalies are so geared toward him passing -- he also has a gift for looking off the defense with a seemingly telegraphed pass then shooting instead -- that shots other guys would get blocked or the goalie would save end up going in the net or producing rebounds for a teammate crashing the net.

3) Down the line, if Frost and Farabee become linemates on the Flyers, they stand a good chance of developing quick chemistry and putting up a lot of points together, especially if they have a plus-shooting righthanded power forward (Allison, perhaps) on the other wing. Alternatively, perhaps Isaac Ratcliffe is Frost's left winger of the future and Farabee (who could adapt just fine to RW) plays the right side. Jay O'Brien is also a top-six caliber talent as he matures.

Will all of these players live up to their full potential and become NHL impact players? Odds are against it, but individually, each one has a good shot. It is by no means far-fetched to envision at least a couple of the Flyers top forward prospects becoming significant parts of a dynamic offensive attack, even as Claude Giroux and Jakub Voracek approach the declining stages of their careers. Timing is everything, though.

4) Sign of the times: Although the 2018 NHL Draft crop was somewhat deeper than average overall, it was a generally weak year for CHL prospects (especially from the Western Hockey League). This was the primary reason why the Flyers wound up drafting only one CHL player among their eight selections this year.

Come next season, the Flyers will only have five prospects playing in CHL leagues assuming Frost does not make the NHL and is returned to the OHL's Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds. The other four are Isaac Ratcliffe (OHL, Guelph Storm), Matthew Strome (OHL, Hamilton Bulldogs), Maksim Sushko (OHL, Owen Sound Attack) and a new draftee, American defenseman Wyatte Wylie (WHL, Everett Silvertips).

Among prospects who played in the CHL last season, Carter Hart, German Rubtsov, Pascal Laberge, Connor Bunnaman and Carsen Twarynski are all slated to join the Lehigh Valley Phantoms next season. The Flyers did not sign Anthony Salinitri, losing his rights. Salinitri went unselected as a NHL Draft re-entry player but attended the Vancouver Canucks' Development Camp as an unaffiliated invitee.

The Flyers will have 10 prospects in NCAA collegiate hockey next season: Wade Allison (Western Michigan junior), Tanner Laczynski (Ohio State junior), Joel Farabee (Boston University freshman), Jay O'Brien (Providence College freshman), Noah Cates (Minnesota-Duluth freshman), Gavin Hain (North Dakota freshman), Brendan Warren (University of Michigan senior), Wyatt Kalynuk (Wisconsin sophomore), Jack St. Ivany (Yale University freshman) and Matej Tomek (University of Nebraska-Omaha junior).

On August 15, the Flyers will technically lose the NHL rights to UConn-graduated defenseman David Drake. However, Drake is under AHL contract to the Phantoms in 2018-19, and is eligible to play for the ECHL's Reading Royals as well as Lehigh Valley. It does not appear that the Flyers will sign Clarkson-graduated defenseman Terrance Amorosa before his rights expire on Aug. 15. He might be able to find at least an AHL contract elsewhere.

In Sweden, the Flyers will have six prospects in the SHL: Olle Lycksell (Linköping), Adam Ginning (Linköpoing), Marcus Westfält (Brynäs), Linus Högberg (Växjö), David Bernhardt (Djurgården) and Felix Sandström (on loan from Flyers to HV71). Additionally, recently drafted goaltender Samuel Ersson has transferred from the Brynäs organization to Allsvenskan (minor league) team Västerås.

Czech forward David Kase, who played in the SHL last season with Mora, is slated to join the Phantoms for the 2018-19 season.

In Russia, goalie Kirill Ustimenko is still eligible for the junior league (MHL) next season but could see some time on loan to a minor league (VHL) team or backup duty in the KHL. Ustimenko starred last season for MHL team MHK Dynamo St. Petersburg. Ivan Fedotov is the projecting starting goaltender for VHL team Toros Neftekamsk in 2018-19 but could also see time with KHL team Salavat Yulaev Ufa.

The Flyers still technically hold the NHL rights to 24-year-old KHL (Severstal Cherepovets) defenseman Valeri Vasiliev, whom they drafted in the seventh round back in 2012. However, he is not in the organization's plans.

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HEXTALL ON DEVELOPMENT CAMP, UFA OBSERVATIONS

Can you talk a little bit about Pascal Laberge and his development? I know he had a rough year a couple years ago with the concussion, but where do you see him and the progress he’s made?

Pascal is highly skilled. He’s got good size, but he skates well. Really good hands and vision. The consistency part has got to come around. He’s turning pro this year. It's time for Pascal certainly to take it to another level. As I said, he’s got an awful lot of ability.

I know this isn’t an evaluation camp so I’m asking more so from last season, what did you see from Mikhail Vorobyev and how close do you think he is to taking that next step?

He’s a good player. I think the amount of games he played last year was a lot. It’s probably the first time [he is] playing three-in-three, he’s playing four games in a week, he’s playing fifteen games in a month. I think that got to him at times. But he was a very good player for us.
He was consistent, in terms of his effort. In terms of his play, he’s got to become more consistent, but I think a lot of that is, it’s a grind.

You go from playing 40 games, 45 games, 50 games and they’re spaced out and all of a sudden you’re playing as many games as we play in American league. He’s a very intelligent player, he can play all situations. He’s got good size. He made strides, whether he’s ready this year or next year that’s certainly up to him, he’s going to have to come in and prove it. He made a lot of strides last year. I think for him to come over at that age, and be all in, he’s going to be here most of the summer, his commitment level has been good thus far. He just needs to keep growing, keep getting stronger, put a little more pop in his skate.

If you watch German Rubstov in these drills, in these tournaments and his skill jumps out at you but the offensive numbers maybe haven’t been where you’d expect a guy who’s that skilled to be. What does he need to do to add that on to his game?

It’s funny, German is a very good two-way player and he’s a little bit like Coots. I’m not comparing the players -- I’m comparing more the [style]. He’s very good defensively. He looks after this [defensive] end first and we need to get a little bit more push on the north side of the game. The south side is very good. Sometimes that’s a bit of a mentality that’s got to change and it doesn’t come overnight. He’s an intelligent player. He has a lot of skill. Again, he’s a very responsive player. He doesn’t cheat the game. He’s never on the wrong side of the puck or the wrong side of his man. We need a little bit more of a push north. Again, it’s a mentality, it’s the way he’s been taught. That part of it, there’s a bit of a transition over here.

We talked to Kjell [Samuelsson] the other day about the fact that Provorov came over early and mastered the language and got assimilated to the culture. These two kids, Rubstov and Vorobyev, are a little bit maybe behind that. Do you emphasize that; are they being tutored on this? How important is that? I know they can communicate on the ice but the comfort level after that?

It’s important. They actually left here with two English-Russian learning books. I told them by September they'd better be fluent [laughs'. No, they both, actually, Ruby understands a lot more than he can speak. Vorobyev is actually not too bad. I mean, Ivan is kind of the standard. Those kids are [getting] better, but it’s almost like when they’re apart they learn more. Rather than speaking Russian to each other they’re forced to speak English. We want them all to learn.

Ustimenko, the same. He says “Hi” like German was at a year and a half ago. All these kids, the sooner they learn the language, the [better]. We’ve got goalie coaches working with Ustimenko and we got to have Slava there to translate it. Brady [Robinson] goes over to see Ustimenko over there and our scout has to be there to translate it.

The sooner they can pick it up, the communication between people in our organization and the coaches they’re playing for and things like that. It’s an important thing. The other important thing that we tell all the kids is when you learn the language, you become a teammate.

And if you ever talk to Pierre-Edouard Bellemare he said when he went to Sweden, the biggest thing for him, his mom sat him down and said after a couple months, “You’re not going to be a teammate unless you learn the [Swedish] language.” So he spent the next two months learning the language and all of a sudden, he was a teammate and ends up in the NHL. Now, you talk to Belly and how important it was for him, we try to stress that with these kids. If you can’t talk to your teammate you don’t really feel the kinship with a teammate. It’s very important.

In terms of development who is further along right now, Vorobyev or Mike Vecchione?

You know what: Those are the types of things that play out in September, so we’ll see. Vecchione is obviously an older player, they’re both first year pros this past season. That’s a hard question and I like those things to be answered more on the ice than here.

Joel Farabee seems so accurate with his shot, he puts the puck where he wants it to go. Is that something you saw in his as you guys were evaluating and scouting him?

Yeah, it’s one of the things he does well. He disguises whether it’s a shot or a pass. He’s got really quick hands and a lot of guys will come down the goalie knows where they’re going to shoot, they know exactly where they’re going to shoot, right? So, you see goalies make a save and you go, 'Woah! That was quick.' Well, it really wasn’t because they read the puck off the stick blade rather than reacted to it. The puck is really hard to react to.

Joel hides things, we call it deception. So, if he’s going to shoot the puck, he’ll turn his hands real quick and bang and let it go. Or he’ll open up for a shot and he’ll pass the puck. He’s got a lot of deception. A lot of top guys in the league, you wonder why they score or how that pass went through. Well, they’re showing hands to the defenseman, to the goalie. The little things that the naked eye doesn’t see that they’re doing, and Joel is one of those guys. His deception in his game is outstanding.

We know this is not evaluation camp but were there one or two players that caught your eye that you saw something that you didn’t know before? Or they showed you something different that maybe wasn’t on the radar screen before?

James de Haas: He was terrific. You guys probably don’t even know who he is, a free agent defenseman. Played for us last year in Reading and Allentown. He looked really good out there today. A bit of an older guy. The stuff he’s taken in the last 12 months, you go “Woah!”

Wyatt Kalynuk: You guys probably don’t know much about him, either. He’s a smooth skating defenseman at Wisconsin. He’s a late round pick and he’s taken a step. He’s a very good player at Wisconsin last year. But you watch the way he skates and the way he reads the game and the way he passes the puck.

Obviously, Pascal was good out there today. Rat [Isaac Ratcliffe] was good. We got a good group. O’Brien was good. Farabee showed some things. I think the guys you'd expect to show things, most of them did and some of the guys that aren’t as publicized did a good job, too. We’ve got a terrific group here. We’re really excited about it.

You have talked about range and how lateral movement -- you as a goaltender -- is that what you want to hear? The kids are taking something out of this.

Yes. We stress this and I know I’ve said this in past years. We stress this that this is a teaching week. This is a week for you guys to learn and if you have questions ask your questions. Everybody has weaknesses. Everybody here has weaknesses or they’d be in the NHL, right? All these guys. They have things they have to work on. Being open and honest with our development guys. They’re here to help you in any way they can.

Every player here, we want them to walk out with multiple things to work on individually that they need to get better at. Some guys need to shoot the puck better. Some guys need to defend better. Some guys need to get stronger. There’s all kinds of little things that they need to work at. Truly what this is, one of the reasons we moved it up.

It’s a lot. It’s very busy coming from the draft and all of a sudden you’ve got development camp. You’ve got free agency. For us, for my staff, it’s crazy. But in terms of the kids, they leave now instead of July 15th so it gives them a couple more weeks. Some, they’ll go to junior camps in early August, world junior camps and stuff. They don’t have enough time to get stronger and work on things that our guys have taught them. One of the benefits of doing it now is to give them more time to go and work on their game and get stronger.

You mentioned de Haas. Talk about his strengths and weaknesses and is he a guy that could battle for a 7th spot in training camp if he got a little better?

Yeah, James. Well, he’s got some work to do. He improved a lot last year. He’s a big, strong, mature guy out there. His leadership in some of the days in some of the activities we had was off the charts. It’s kind of one of the things we look at. We want the older guys to be leaders because next year the guys step up. They learn the value of leadership and how to be a leader. Part of what it’s about too is learning leadership skills. James did a great job. He’s on an American League deal. He signed to a 2 year deal last year. He’s come a long way. He’s a kid. He’s one of those guys under the radar but who knows in a year or two.

What are the things that Isaac Ratcliffe needs to improve on? You mentioned yesterday that a guy that size doesn’t usually have hands like that. He looks pretty good, and he’s defensively strong.

He’s really linked up for a guy that size. I think I said that yesterday or two days ago. I don’t know if you guys remember, obviously not comparing players, but Zdeno Chara at the same age was all dangly. He looked like he needed braces all over every joint in his body. But, you watched [Ratcliffe] and you see this kid at that age it’s like your training’s better and all that kind of stuff. To be that linked up at that age is amazing.

He’s come a long ways in a year. His all-around game still needs work. His wall play and things like that, which most guys at that age do. His hands, his patience, his poise with the puck. He’s got some scoring touch. He’s got a reach. To have that poise and reach, developed to put it around the goalie you’ve seen this week. We’re excited about big Rat.

How do you evaluate Mark Friedman in his professional season? Obviously there’s always need for defensemen in the NHL.

Friedy had a real strong finish. His start was not great. He was a little bit up and down. But if you just take, it wasn’t just the end of the season, significant part of the end of the season he was a very good player for us. Certainly gives something for him to build on. He’s not tall but he’s a big strong kid. Skill level he’s good. He’s got a wide base. He’s stocky. He’s a battler. Skill level, he’s got a better than average skill level. He shoots the puck well. Friedy needs to be more consistent in his preparation and little things in the game. Professionalism. But he’s come a long way. He’s a pretty good prospect.

Do you see at training camp, being a pretty wide open job of competition? Because some years it’s like just one or two guys. It seems like right now you’ve got some guys pushing it. Sometimes it’s just vacant seats you’re just trying to fill but it’s like this year you’ve actually got some push from prospects.

Yeah, we do. It’s the hard part we always try and figure out. How many NHL players we need and how many guys will be pushing for a job and it’s hard because if you miss you’re pushing a kid that maybe shouldn’t be there. You think he should be there then all of a sudden training camp comes and it’s like “Oh boy, we’re pushing this a little quick."

That’s the hardest thing to figure out. If you have two or three guys that are pushing and you feel a comfort, hopefully one of those guys is ready to fill the hole. Not only not make the team or not have us put him on the team because we need a body but actually help us win hockey games. The time in the minors we talk about all the time is getting them ready to help us play. You can out a kid in young if you want to but it’s not going to help him. In the end it’s not going to help your franchise. Why have him on your team here if he’s not helping you win? The whole idea is to win. If they’re not helping us win, go play more minutes.

Give a medical update on Phil Myers.

He’s got a slight pull. It’s nothing. Like a week. Just [mostly] overuse.

Speaking of Myers, I know you said that this isn’t an evaluation camp, but going back to last year, what did you like from his development? And how you have you seen him develop from his past year in the AHL?

Phil, he just got better and better as the year went on. You saw him at the start of the year and he was a good player. Then as the year went along, you just see this rise. It’s what you want. You want your players to get better the entire year. To Phil’s credit, he did. The playoffs was as good as he played all year. Towards the end of the season, he was a horse for us. He was a very good player. I don’t want to say opened our eyes because we expected that from him, but he certainly put himself in a position this year for us to take a look at him.

How comparable was his first professional year to Travis Sanheim’s, who you’ve also said had kind of an upward trend?

There’s some similarities there. Travis had a tough start, but probably [it's the normal stage of] the transition from juniors to the NHL. Then the second half of the year, he took off. It was pretty similar for Phil.

Carter Hart gets so much attention, but the year before you got him, you got Felix. Because you were very shallow in that area, a lot of people thought he might be the next. How important is this year for him, for not having played and his health issues? I think as that season went on, he went from being that guy for Brynäs to stomach whatever. Note: Sandström's ailment that cost him most of the 2017-18 season was a hiatal hernia

It’s an important year for him, he knows it. You can kind of see how dialed in he is here. I mean, Felix is a good goalie. I think you mention, sometimes with the way the world is today, people talk about one person and not another person, especially at that position. We all know there’s only one in the net so you only need one. So people talk about one. We’re very high on Felix. He’s a real competitor. He’s a really hard worker. He’s a great teammate and he’s a great kid.

Like I said, you see him today, he’s a hungry hockey player right now. You miss a year, there’s a lot you can learn. You’re a young kid and you’ve never really been through this before and how you handle it, how much of a pro you are, how you are with your teammates. He talked about that he learned a lot this year. It makes you hungry, as a goalie. You can never really let and you don’t want to let your level drop. He ended up on a different team in a lower level.

This was just because you were essentially injured. That’s the way sports is. You can’t wait around for people and he learned a lot. Like I said, he’s a character. Kid works hard. I think he’s going to have a bang-up year.

Because it wasn’t an injury and more of an illness, that wasn’t a rehab start kind of thing. It was because of missed time you’re down in the pecking order.

Yeah, all of a sudden you’re not playing for two months, someone’s got to play. That other guy does a good job. It’s a little bit like Hagger [Robert Hägg] at the end of the year, right? Hagger got injured and all of a sudden, he’s out of the lineup. He didn’t deserve to be out of the lineup, he was hurt. When he’s ready to come back, other guys were playing pretty well, so you never really get your spot back. It wasn’t Hagger’s fault. Other guys did a good job and that’s just the way it goes. But you learn a lot from those things. I know Hagger did and like I said, Felix did too.

It’s sports, pro sports. The old saying, ‘What have you done for us today?’ You got to do your job every day. That’s professionalism. That’s certainly what we expect and most athletes expect the same from themselves.

Ron, on a different subject, do you expect to do anything else with free agency this week? Or is it just a wait-and-see type of thing?

We’re continuing to kind of monitor what’s out there and the prices. We’ll make the decision when the time feels right. A lot of it is just a gut feel. We’re continuing to monitor.

You have Carter turning pro. You submitted qualifying offers to Stolie [Anthony Stolarz] and Alex Lyon. You’ve got Neuvy [Michal Neuvirth] and Brian [Elliott] in the NHL level. Is there any way logistically to keep all those guys going into next year or is there another shoe that has to drop at some point this summer?

No, not necessarily. I’d rather have too many goalies than too few. If something makes sense and we can make something happen, we’d at least look at it. We saw it last year. All of a sudden, a couple goalies go down and you’re scrambling for goalies. If we start with five, we start with five. Not a perfect situation, but again, I’d rather start with five than with three.

With the AHL rules, are you able to keep three in the AHL if necessary?

Yeah.

Could you also loan somebody to someone else’s program?

We could. I don’t like doing that, but we could. You never know.

Ron, on a different subject: Matthew Strome told me that he works with a figure skater on his skating. He’ll be doing it this summer, two to three times a week. Is that a unique way to work on your skating or is that common in hockey to work with figure skater since they are so skilled?

It’s pretty common, figure skaters, power skaters. There’s a lot of figure skaters in it now. My wife was a figure skater and she always tells me she’s better skater than me. She’s right. She could teach skating certainly better than I could. There’s a lot of guys. I think Strome worked with her last year. Our Slava [Flyers skating coach Slava Kouznetsov] is a figure skater. They know how to skate, certainly much better than we do.

Were you surprised at the free agent market? Or was it just kind of a shallow class?

It was a shallow class, but they usually are.

Are GMs just getting smarter?

I don’t know if they’re getting smarter or not. You don’t let your good players go. Tavares was a unique situation, he went home. That’s a unique situation. For the most part, there’s very few very good players with high character that their team lets go to free agency.

Am I surprised? No, not really. I told you guys we had a line after five forwards. That was it. We’re not going to add players that are either equal to players that we have. It doesn’t make any sense. And to box a kid out for a player that’s not an upgrade doesn’t make a lot sense. I don’t see us, at this point, signing a forward. Trade market, you never know.

In terms of the D market, we’ll continue to monitor it. But I’m not surprised by it. July 1st, you see guys get money and you kind of go "Woah!" We’ve been there. We’re not immune to it. You see certain guys you never thought they would make that kind of money. Crazy day. Not my favorite day. ​
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